Coronavirus Impact on Air Travel
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, it is the other buggers.Guess that one in answered and appears dodgy santiser is out there ....................... in this case from Turkey.
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All virus can be serious to the people getting them. Majority of people infcted with this so far are recovering.
This Virus is a lot less serious than 1918 Flu pandemic, the population of the World was 1.8 billion, 500 million caught it and between 50-100 million died. A death rate of 10-20% and close to 30% of the population being infected. On a similar level today it would see 2.2 billion infected with between 220 - 530 million people dying.
1968 Flu pandemic killed between 1-4 million people on a population of 3.6 billlion.
This Virus is a lot less serious than 1918 Flu pandemic, the population of the World was 1.8 billion, 500 million caught it and between 50-100 million died. A death rate of 10-20% and close to 30% of the population being infected. On a similar level today it would see 2.2 billion infected with between 220 - 530 million people dying.
1968 Flu pandemic killed between 1-4 million people on a population of 3.6 billlion.
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There is a great deal of dispute about the death rate - maybe as low as 17 million - and the actual cause of death which may well have been secondary bacterial infections in the vast majority of cases. You simply cannot compare the death rate among overcrowded malnourished people in 1918 with 2020.
On sheer numbers alone it is not even close.
Yes you can but it doesn't suit the agenda of those pushing "worst pandemic ever" story. Many of the UK cases have already been flagged as having had significant underlying conditions meaning Covid was present but not necessarily cause of death but they tested positive. If that is case with UK then guaranteed it is similar in other countries.
On sheer numbers alone it is not even close.
On sheer numbers alone it is not even close.
I'd hope we are better at dealing at these sort of things than 100 years ago (and how accurate was the record keeping then?)
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ACI Europe warning of the "collapse of significant parts of the air transport system" with 193 of the continents airports facing insolvency in the coming months if passenger traffic does not start to recover by year end.
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The word "scaremongering" comes to mind. I expect some governments and local authorities will fall for it. That's not to belittle the situation airports find themselves in at the moment, but the upshot could be that for a number of airport businesses that are commercially marginal covid-19 may just hasten the inevitable.
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There is talk of Grant Shapps changing the criteria for requiring quarantine on arrival in England from 20 cases per 100,000 over 7 days to 100 cases instead - ie 5 fold increase
I have no idea if this will happen or not, but looking at data in Europe, I can't see anywhere that will suddenly become available for unrestricted travel which is not already available - ie we still get just Canaries, Gibraltar, Greece, and Sweden. Everywhere else either has over 100 cases, or has quarantine for arrivals to/from England or requires proof of a recent negative test. Even Greece has a quaratine/testing requirement on quasi-random pax arriving by air
Can anybody else identify places that become available for unrestricted travel to/from England under this possible policy change ?
I have no idea if this will happen or not, but looking at data in Europe, I can't see anywhere that will suddenly become available for unrestricted travel which is not already available - ie we still get just Canaries, Gibraltar, Greece, and Sweden. Everywhere else either has over 100 cases, or has quarantine for arrivals to/from England or requires proof of a recent negative test. Even Greece has a quaratine/testing requirement on quasi-random pax arriving by air
Can anybody else identify places that become available for unrestricted travel to/from England under this possible policy change ?
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There is talk of Grant Shapps changing the criteria for requiring quarantine on arrival in England from 20 cases per 100,000 over 7 days to 100 cases instead - ie 5 fold increase
I have no idea if this will happen or not, but looking at data in Europe, I can't see anywhere that will suddenly become available for unrestricted travel which is not already available - ie we still get just Canaries, Gibraltar, Greece, and Sweden. Everywhere else either has over 100 cases, or has quarantine for arrivals to/from England or requires proof of a recent negative test. Even Greece has a quaratine/testing requirement on quasi-random pax arriving by air
Can anybody else identify places that become available for unrestricted travel to/from England under this possible policy change ?
I have no idea if this will happen or not, but looking at data in Europe, I can't see anywhere that will suddenly become available for unrestricted travel which is not already available - ie we still get just Canaries, Gibraltar, Greece, and Sweden. Everywhere else either has over 100 cases, or has quarantine for arrivals to/from England or requires proof of a recent negative test. Even Greece has a quaratine/testing requirement on quasi-random pax arriving by air
Can anybody else identify places that become available for unrestricted travel to/from England under this possible policy change ?
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There is talk of Grant Shapps changing the criteria for requiring quarantine on arrival in England from 20 cases per 100,000 over 7 days to 100 cases instead - ie 5 fold increase
I have no idea if this will happen or not, but looking at data in Europe, I can't see anywhere that will suddenly become available for unrestricted travel which is not already available - ie we still get just Canaries, Gibraltar, Greece, and Sweden. Everywhere else either has over 100 cases, or has quarantine for arrivals to/from England or requires proof of a recent negative test. Even Greece has a quaratine/testing requirement on quasi-random pax arriving by air
Can anybody else identify places that become available for unrestricted travel to/from England under this possible policy change ?
I have no idea if this will happen or not, but looking at data in Europe, I can't see anywhere that will suddenly become available for unrestricted travel which is not already available - ie we still get just Canaries, Gibraltar, Greece, and Sweden. Everywhere else either has over 100 cases, or has quarantine for arrivals to/from England or requires proof of a recent negative test. Even Greece has a quaratine/testing requirement on quasi-random pax arriving by air
Can anybody else identify places that become available for unrestricted travel to/from England under this possible policy change ?
I’d be betting on Jamaica coming off the naughty list tomorrow.
I know some on here think he's a twit, but he's probably better connected off the record to people in Govt as a well-known journalist than many of us who read this forum...
https://www.independent.co.uk/travel...-b1347862.html
https://www.independent.co.uk/travel...-b1347862.html
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To be honest, taking Denmark off the red list was an indication that this is already happening, as it was around 57/100,000 last week.
Certainly a positive step if true (except to a few regular contributors to this thread, who will no doubt be aghast). In fact, continued restrictions in this country and a more sensible approach to quarantine regulations may lead to the spike in demand that the industry desperately needs.
I wonder how many larger families will be booking trips abroad just to be able to spend Christmas together.
Certainly a positive step if true (except to a few regular contributors to this thread, who will no doubt be aghast). In fact, continued restrictions in this country and a more sensible approach to quarantine regulations may lead to the spike in demand that the industry desperately needs.
I wonder how many larger families will be booking trips abroad just to be able to spend Christmas together.
I know some on here think he's a twit, but he's probably better connected off the record to people in Govt as a well-known journalist than many of us who read this forum...
https://www.independent.co.uk/travel...-b1347862.html
https://www.independent.co.uk/travel...-b1347862.html
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Any new cases brought into the UK will start a new Covid 19 infection source that can spread out of control. It was how we got infected in the first place. Even if Brits abroad did not mix with the locals they will be mixing with each other in bars etc. Germany was blaming the return of holidaymakers for its rise in cases.
Any new cases brought into the UK will start a new Covid 19 infection source that can spread out of control. It was how we got infected in the first place. Even if Brits abroad did not mix with the locals they will be mixing with each other in bars etc. Germany was blaming the return of holidaymakers for its rise in cases.
