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Old 1st Nov 2020, 10:16
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The Govester on live TV has confirmed there will be in place a passenger ban regarding international travel apart from travelling for work.
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EZY stating most of it`s UK schedule will be cancelled over lockdown.
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Old 1st Nov 2020, 11:28
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EZY stating most of it`s UK schedule will be cancelled over lockdown.

Source please
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Old 1st Nov 2020, 11:48
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If a Govt refuses to allow you operate flights then said Govt cannot insist you pay compensation because of its actions. They can try it on but ultimately it will fail in court.
I went back and read the guidance from the EU and it is my view that it is an extraordinary circumstance even if the borders are still open because it is a mass restriction on people travelling. Therefore airlines will be able to cancel or amend their schedules without having to pay compensation. However they will still have to refund for cancelled flights.
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What new lockdown rules mean for holidays as EasyJet prepares to cancel flights
EasyJet chief executive Johan Lundgren said: “Following the Government’s sudden announcement today, easyJet will operate its planned schedule until Thursday and will be reviewing its flying programme over the lockdown period. It is likely that much of the UK touching schedule will be cancelled during lockdown with our planned flying set to resume in early December. We will advise customers who are booked to travel over the next month of their options with a view to assisting customers to return to the country in the coming days."
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Old 1st Nov 2020, 13:05
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Originally Posted by runway30
I went back and read the guidance from the EU and it is my view that it is an extraordinary circumstance even if the borders are still open because it is a mass restriction on people travelling. Therefore airlines will be able to cancel or amend their schedules without having to pay compensation. However they will still have to refund for cancelled flights.
Correct. As with every other situation since March, EU261 does not apply. Passengers are about to be shafted, nor are insurers are going to pay out if you bought insurance after Mar 13th or booked your trip after this date.
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Old 2nd Nov 2020, 09:52
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Originally Posted by southside bobby
The Govester on live TV has confirmed there will be in place a passenger ban regarding international travel apart from travelling for work.
... and RyanAir stating that they will not offer refunds to passengers (flying from the UK)...
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-54776678
So how can this be right that HMG says you cannot fly unless for business, yet RyanAir expect you to fly if their planes are operating. Will they really fly empty planes just so that they can keep passengers' money?

OK I know we are talking about RyanAir here, but even so......

(and I have the misfortune to have Gove as my local MP)
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Old 2nd Nov 2020, 12:46
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Ryanair are actually encouraging the public to ignore the English lockdown, which they have never believed in.
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Old 2nd Nov 2020, 13:06
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Errrr...Re Ryanair that is actually not true of course...
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Old 2nd Nov 2020, 13:45
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Ryanair are actually encouraging the public to ignore the English lockdown, which they have never believed in.
I don't need any encouragement.Ta Ta
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Old 2nd Nov 2020, 13:59
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Ryanair are actually encouraging the public to ignore the English lockdown, which they have never believed in.
If you've bought a ticket, it's no skin off Ryanair's nose whether you choose to fly or not.
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Old 2nd Nov 2020, 14:23
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I will say it again, the restriction is on the passenger, it is not on the airline. An airline is entitled to keep flying for those passengers who are not restricted. If the passenger is under restriction, Ryanair is encouraging passengers to transfer to another flight for free.

It will interesting to see whether this results in mass civil disobedience and what the Government response will be.

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Very good precis.
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Old 2nd Nov 2020, 16:20
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Actually I don’t have much sympathy with passengers. They should have learned their lesson by now but clearly many haven’t.
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Actually I donít have much sympathy with passengers. They should have learned their lesson by now but clearly many havenít.
I have two very good friends who have changed their Friday BOH - TFS flights to Wednesday LTN - TFS to stay within the 'recommended' travel guidelines. Yes, they have learnt....get out and enjoy life in a relatively safer place where the pool water is warmer.
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I have two very good friends who have changed their Friday BOH - TFS flights to Wednesday LTN - TFS to stay within the 'recommended' travel guidelines. Yes, they have learnt....get out and enjoy life in a relatively safer place where the pool water is warmer.
Good for them, life is for living not sitting there waiting to die.
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Originally Posted by runway30
I will say it again, the restriction is on the passenger, it is not on the airline. An airline is entitled to keep flying for those passengers who are not restricted. If the passenger is under restriction, Ryanair is encouraging passengers to transfer to another flight for free.

It will interesting to see whether this results in mass civil disobedience and what the Government response will be.
Govt response will be muted because when you start locking up normally law biding citizens and refuse to lock up criminals with records as long as your arm then changes of Govts happen.
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I have two very good friends who have changed their Friday BOH - TFS flights to Wednesday LTN - TFS to stay within the 'recommended' travel guidelines. Yes, they have learnt....get out and enjoy life in a relatively safer place where the pool water is warmer.
This!!!! Totally this!!!
I looked at flights out to TFS on Wednesday, but everywhere is booked!
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This!!!! Totally this!!!
I looked at flights out to TFS on Wednesday, but everywhere is booked!
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/airports/tfs/routes
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Old 3rd Nov 2020, 12:42
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I can confirm that flights to TFS are very popular today with 4 TOM Dreamliners due from LGW, BHX, MAN & DSA. Normally it would be 1 or 2 Dreamliners per week. Last minute getaway before lockdown. Have to say that the Canaries are far safe than the UK with a rate of 55 compared to 460 in the UK (14 day rates provided by ECDC).
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