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Old 4th Nov 2020, 10:54
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Originally Posted by oldart
Are there any restrictions in place for air travel between England and Scotland? It seems that both countries will have different set of rules tomorrow, it all seems to be confusing.
In Scotland, you are advised to avoid unnecessary travel to the other UK countries.

In England (from tomorrow) you are not allowed to travel to elsewhere in the UK, unless for work, education or other legally permitted reasons.

Those apply to any mode of transport.
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Old 4th Nov 2020, 14:43
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Originally Posted by davidjohnson6
I've noticed, particularly in the last 6 weeks that throughout Europe, scheduled flights have been consistently closing doors maybe 15 mins before scheduled departure time, and taking off often a few minutes before scheduled departure time - with the result that on arrival passengers begin disembarking well before the scheduled arrival time

Can anyone point me to some weekly or daily rigorous punctuality stats so I can see if punctuality has indeed improved as much as I think ?
This situation must have been helped by the lack of airspace congestion, lack of road congestion, smaller loads, etc. So I would expect things to be more punctual, ceteris paribus.
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Old 4th Nov 2020, 20:24
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Originally Posted by LGS6753
This situation must have been helped by the lack of airspace congestion, lack of road congestion, smaller loads, etc. So I would expect things to be more punctual, ceteris paribus.
I think also with some noticeable exceptions the load factor means few planes are leaving 90% full which makes it easier to load everybody quicker.
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Old 5th Nov 2020, 06:44
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Originally Posted by DaveReidUK
In Scotland, you are advised to avoid unnecessary travel to the other UK countries.

In England (from tomorrow) you are not allowed to travel to elsewhere in the UK, unless for work, education or other legally permitted reasons.

Those apply to any mode of transport.
And next week in Scotland you could be fined for travelling between Glasgow Tier 3 to Oban Tier 2 but can fly to some oversea's destinations with no problems! O, what a tangled web we weave when first we practise to deceive!
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Old 5th Nov 2020, 17:03
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Germany and Sweden to be moved to the naughty list effective Saturday morning

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Old 5th Nov 2020, 18:42
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A number of airlines give out masks to pax when they board. Most seem to dish out unbranded standard pale blue masks, but today I saw my first corporate branded mask (and the design of the print was bold and easily recognisable) - effectively making the wearer into a mobile advert for the airline. How long before this becomes mainstream ?
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Old 6th Nov 2020, 08:57
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Denmark added to the UK's naughty list effective immediately
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Old 6th Nov 2020, 09:11
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Denmark added to the UK's naughty list effective immediately
Yes, but only allegedly because of the risk from mink. How many people going from UK to Denmark are likely to come into contact with people working in mink farms etc?
We in England are banned from taking holidays at the moment anyway, so any trip between the 2 countries is most likely to be for business reasons, and I don't think that the mink trade is that significant.... would be a more effective step if the UK could stop its infected politicians travelling domestically on public transport :-(
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Except that there is little evidence that people are getting infected on public transport.
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Old 6th Nov 2020, 15:25
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Except that there is little evidence that people are getting infected on public transport.
Where are people getting infected? Genuine question. Is there reliable research on it?
Track and trace is not a reliable source. You can take 20 buses, visit 100 shops in a day and then go to the pub and they'll only take the details of the pub.

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I believe that the evidence is that most people are infected inside houses.
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Old 7th Nov 2020, 06:15
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Originally Posted by davidjohnson6
A number of airlines give out masks to pax when they board. Most seem to dish out unbranded standard pale blue masks, but today I saw my first corporate branded mask (and the design of the print was bold and easily recognisable) - effectively making the wearer into a mobile advert for the airline. How long before this becomes mainstream ?
To be fair the need for a mask in almost any public setting in most of the world has been mandatory for some time now and airlines don't exactly hide this fact either. We can argue about the reasons and effectiveness, but if you turn up to fly without your own mask at this stage in the game then you deserve to become a mobile advert to be honest. Anyone who has a genuine medical exemption from mask wearing really shouldn't be flying right now as they clearly shouldn't be mixing with others in close quarters in the first place.
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Originally Posted by davidjohnson6
A number of airlines give out masks to pax when they board. Most seem to dish out unbranded standard pale blue masks, but today I saw my first corporate branded mask (and the design of the print was bold and easily recognisable) - effectively making the wearer into a mobile advert for the airline. How long before this becomes mainstream ?
I'm surprised it's taken this long...
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Old 7th Nov 2020, 07:49
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Denmark added to the UK's naughty list effective immediately
Now on the Very Very naughty list, entry banned

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-54851042
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This is no joking matter. A new strain of Corona has spread from mink to humans making the new vaccines potentially ineffective. U.K. citizens returning from Denmark should be placed in supervised quarantine. Those already here should be taken into supervised quarantine together with their family members.

Just need to look at the departure board from Copenhagen to see where this new strain could spread to by tomorrow. Those working on mink farms are mainly Eastern European’s which is a major risk to Europe.

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Originally Posted by LTNman
This is no joking matter. A new strain of Corona has spread from mink to humans making the new vaccines potentially ineffective. U.K. citizens returning from Denmark should be placed in supervised quarantine. Those already here should be taken into supervised quarantine together with their family members.

Just need to look at the departure board from Copenhagen to see where this new strain could spread to by tomorrow. Those working on mink farms are mainly Eastern Europeanís which is a major risk to Europe.
In that case, one assumes that the virus can be passed to and from any animal. So where do we go with this, slaughter all pet dogs and cats - just to be sure !
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In that case, one assumes that the virus can be passed to and from any animal. So where do we go with this, slaughter all pet dogs and cats - just to be sure !
But that is a wrong assumption!
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Old 7th Nov 2020, 12:59
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But that is a wrong assumption!
I seem to remember big cats at a zoo somewhere in the U.S in the early day being diagnosed with the virus, so I donít think itís too incorrect an assumption to be made.
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Old 7th Nov 2020, 14:20
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BA and Ryanair pilots and cabin crew now have to quarantine for 14 days if they have flown out of Denmark from today.

I read that around 200 people now have this new strain in Denmark. I can remember reading about a new virus in China around last Christmas. Now look where we are.
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Originally Posted by LTNman
This is no joking matter. A new strain of Corona has spread from mink to humans making the new vaccines potentially ineffective. U.K. citizens returning from Denmark should be placed in supervised quarantine. Those already here should be taken into supervised quarantine together with their family members.
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So just round up people and their families, then lock them up on the basis they visited a country. Covid-19 has really brought out the desire of many to emulate the Stasi in East Germany with a glee that even the Stasi would struggle to understand.

Denmark has 1050 cases today to get to 54k cases and its death rate per million is 128 while the UKs is 719 but seems to be lets blame Denmark.
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