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Slightly more than MAN-IAH and vv based on my casual observance of the figures. CAA monthlies will give detailed information.
In other news there were 80 transfer pax on Virgin's San Francisco today, further evidence of MAN's growing role as a hub, given the right products and marketing.
We can begin to see that you don't necessarily need to have a big based airline to become a hub airport. Just as ebay sells no goods of its own and Uber owns no cabs, the business world today works by finding what consumers need and networking them to multiple providers. That's what can happen at any airport with a large and diverse route network, even without an anchor carrier. It's the new industrial revolution - Manchester is once again showing the world how it's done!
In other news there were 80 transfer pax on Virgin's San Francisco today, further evidence of MAN's growing role as a hub, given the right products and marketing.
We can begin to see that you don't necessarily need to have a big based airline to become a hub airport. Just as ebay sells no goods of its own and Uber owns no cabs, the business world today works by finding what consumers need and networking them to multiple providers. That's what can happen at any airport with a large and diverse route network, even without an anchor carrier. It's the new industrial revolution - Manchester is once again showing the world how it's done!
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There is also a growing trend in people transiting from JED to the US via MAN.
It's still low numbers, but I was speaking to one guy who says he has an office staff of 48 and all now travel JFK-MAN-JED rather than JFK-LHR-JED. He says the process is much quicker and easier at MAN.
It's still low numbers, but I was speaking to one guy who says he has an office staff of 48 and all now travel JFK-MAN-JED rather than JFK-LHR-JED. He says the process is much quicker and easier at MAN.
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MH9980 KUL 0955 MAN 1655 15/7/2017
MH9981 MAN 1255 PVG 0705+1 16/7/2017
MH9980 HKG 0250 MAN 0805 23/7/2017
MH9981 MAN 1045 KUL 0700+1 23/7/2017
A380 operates.
Thanks to Alpha 5 for confirming dates etc.
MH9981 MAN 1255 PVG 0705+1 16/7/2017
MH9980 HKG 0250 MAN 0805 23/7/2017
MH9981 MAN 1045 KUL 0700+1 23/7/2017
A380 operates.
Thanks to Alpha 5 for confirming dates etc.
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Thomas Cook are considering adding a business class cabin on its Manchester-USA routes.
They say they are now looking to persue more business and corporate traffic, and that if the decision was given the go ahead, Manchester-New York would likely be the first route to see the offering.
This as well as the fact they are looking to add wifi to the A330 fleet too, means that TCX could really take a huge step forward. They have already carved out a good chunk in the leisure market, if this next phase goes ahead, it could really set the cat amongst the pigeons!
They say they are now looking to persue more business and corporate traffic, and that if the decision was given the go ahead, Manchester-New York would likely be the first route to see the offering.
This as well as the fact they are looking to add wifi to the A330 fleet too, means that TCX could really take a huge step forward. They have already carved out a good chunk in the leisure market, if this next phase goes ahead, it could really set the cat amongst the pigeons!
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Has Manchester ever considered an update to its website mimicking Gatwick Connects ?
They use a self connect system promoting the various connecting links albeit informal.
I would have thought a similar website given the massive connectivity at Manchester especially in terms of domestic feed would be advantageous?
Has Manchester ever considered an update to its website mimicking Gatwick Connects ?
They use a self connect system promoting the various connecting links albeit informal.
I would have thought a similar website given the massive connectivity at Manchester especially in terms of domestic feed would be advantageous?
The TCX upgrade is a logical step. Condor already offers Business, premium eco & economy on most of its long haul routes from Germany. Would be a case of bringing TCX into line with the group.
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Any idea who that's carrying? First thought was football summer charters, but United and City are both going to the US at that time (look to be using an Atlas 744 and AeroNexus 767 respectively). Interestingly the Premier League Asia Trophy is being played in Hong Kong on the 19th and 22nd July which would fit, as long as they are doing a promotional visit to Shanghai en route. Using a 380 suggests that all 4 teams (Leicester, West Brom, Crystal Palace and Liverpool) could well be travelling out together - sounds like a recipe for tabloid headlines! The Speke thread will be miffed if Liverpool are flying out of MAN!!
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It is indeed a good step.
With TCX hiring a sales team and purposefully going after the small/medium business traffic, I do wonder if this could mean one or two 'FRA-esque' routes appearing at MAN? Could be the right mix to open up Seattle, Austin or even restart Washington?
With TCX hiring a sales team and purposefully going after the small/medium business traffic, I do wonder if this could mean one or two 'FRA-esque' routes appearing at MAN? Could be the right mix to open up Seattle, Austin or even restart Washington?
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If TXC can just conquer reliability/punctuality issues then the TATL market can be theirs for the taking.
TXC now first choice for many I know if direct available with fare aggregators offering amazing deals. £400 rtn to LAX in October. All others are stoppers in the £550-£600 range.
Not personally heard any bad reports but having to draft in the Wamos 744, HiFly A340, etc. has caused a few significant delays. It will be a shame if tech issues stains their reputation.
TXC now first choice for many I know if direct available with fare aggregators offering amazing deals. £400 rtn to LAX in October. All others are stoppers in the £550-£600 range.
Not personally heard any bad reports but having to draft in the Wamos 744, HiFly A340, etc. has caused a few significant delays. It will be a shame if tech issues stains their reputation.
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Btw the LCY-MAN flights aren't yet year round. There are no flights in November 17 and the first is Friday 15th Dec 17 for the ski season. Then there are no flights mid April to Mid May 18.
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Has Manchester ever considered an update to its website mimicking Gatwick Connects ?
They use a self connect system promoting the various connecting links albeit informal.
I would have thought a similar website given the massive connectivity at Manchester especially in terms of domestic feed would be advantageous?
Has Manchester ever considered an update to its website mimicking Gatwick Connects ?
They use a self connect system promoting the various connecting links albeit informal.
I would have thought a similar website given the massive connectivity at Manchester especially in terms of domestic feed would be advantageous?
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The TP provides a great opportunity to get the transfer product right. Aside from anything else, getting all the mainline airlines under one roof will make a huge difference. The current three terminal system is inefficient.
Baggage system, security, people flows, USPC - all things that would make a huge difference to transfer - and transit - traffic through MAN.
Just need the airlines to make use of this...
Baggage system, security, people flows, USPC - all things that would make a huge difference to transfer - and transit - traffic through MAN.
Just need the airlines to make use of this...
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The TP provides a great opportunity to get the transfer product right. Aside from anything else, getting all the mainline airlines under one roof will make a huge difference. The current three terminal system is inefficient.
Baggage system, security, people flows, USPC - all things that would make a huge difference to transfer - and transit - traffic through MAN.
Just need the airlines to make use of this...
Baggage system, security, people flows, USPC - all things that would make a huge difference to transfer - and transit - traffic through MAN.
Just need the airlines to make use of this...
I remember many years back connecting I think AA long haul to BA domestic. I transferred air side and the guy at security welcomed me unannounced by name as I approached.
He explained that he knew my name because he had started his shift early that morning specifically because I was transferring.
Lovely service, great guy, classic Manchester, but much better if they don't actually know my name!
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Yes, another day of MAN-tastic figures on the North Atlantic. Huge number of terminating pax arriving on the SQ from Houston, and as 750XL notes there were big numbers transferring onto and off USA flights. How about 74 on the inbound TCX Los Angeles, and 57 on the outbound San Francisco. Increasing evidence that MAN is no longer just an airport for the Northwest of England, or just the North and Midlands, but for the UK as a whole and an intercontinental hub on the western fringes of Europe. Far better-connected to the rest of the UK by both air and rail than is the major hub at Heathrow.
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Long may it continue.
Targeting U.K. Cities without links to LHR and/or other major hubs, whilst attracting a decent slice from cities that have links, has to be the way to go in order to support some of our more exotic routes.
Working with (for example) BE to improve the transfer product in the TP could pay major dividends, particularly if the SE runway debate keeps getting kicked down the road.
Targeting U.K. Cities without links to LHR and/or other major hubs, whilst attracting a decent slice from cities that have links, has to be the way to go in order to support some of our more exotic routes.
Working with (for example) BE to improve the transfer product in the TP could pay major dividends, particularly if the SE runway debate keeps getting kicked down the road.