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Old 30th Jan 2017, 11:49
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Don't forget that when the dual carriageway through to the A6 opens later this year you'll most likely shave a few minutes off the journey time to Styal Road as it should get rid of the queuing where the current dual carriageway goes down to 1 lane!
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Old 30th Jan 2017, 14:47
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Originally Posted by MKY661
Do you mean T2 Short Stay or is it another car park nearby?
Area 7 is the staff car park next to T2, but is closing just before April.

Ask your company to provide staff parking in short stay if those 5 minutes are so precious to you? Though, it'll cost them circa £2500 a year vs £400 for Staff West/East.


And if you really want to moan, try the staff parking at LHR
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Old 30th Jan 2017, 23:19
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Welcome to PPRUNE. Professional Parking RUmour NEtwork.
Good grief.
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Old 31st Jan 2017, 06:38
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Some work finally starting the on airport city.

Enterprise Way | Airport City
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Old 31st Jan 2017, 08:45
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Originally Posted by LAX_LHR
Some work finally starting the on airport city.

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Good to see things (slowly) move forward.

A slightly odd road junction, I'd have thought it would be free flowing from the M56 spur through to the SEMMS road when that is completed?
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Old 31st Jan 2017, 09:08
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Btw new BA flights from MAN are available on Ba.com, apart from flights to/from LCY.
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Old 31st Jan 2017, 09:24
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[QUOTE][A slightly odd road junction, I'd have thought it would be free flowing from the M56 spur through to the SEMMS road when that is completed?/QUOTE]

That surprised me some months ago looking at the SEMMS plans at one of the update presentations. There is to be no direct, junction-free route from SEMMS to the M56 as far as I know. What traffic lights are involved I'm not sure.
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Old 31st Jan 2017, 09:32
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[A slightly odd road junction, I'd have thought it would be free flowing from the M56 spur through to the SEMMS road when that is completed?/QUOTE]

That surprised me some months ago looking at the SEMMS plans at one of the update presentations. There is to be no direct, junction-free route from SEMMS to the M56 as far as I know. What traffic lights are involved I'm not sure.
As a general rule in UK new road schemes are built to create congestion, or simply bump it further down the road.

There are countless examples of how brand new roads should have been built dual carriageway, but have been made single, with roundabouts rather than slip roads for junctions. It's the way we do things here.
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Old 31st Jan 2017, 09:46
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I don't think traffic off the motorway heading for the Semms road will go via that new bit. Looks like they are changing the roundabout at the end of the M56 spur to become free flowing onto the dual carriageway, rather than traffic light controlled as it is now. The new loop road will most likely for people coming round past Etrop Grange to access it (or the new Airport City buildings).
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Old 31st Jan 2017, 14:01
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British Airways launches seven new routes from Manchester Airport - Manchester Evening News

Fairly level headed article from MEN for once.

Although BA appear to have had a rethink about its Manchester operations the scale of the enhanced operation won’t come close to matching its presence before 2007.
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Old 31st Jan 2017, 15:15
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It seems that the current political turmoil in the US is starting to affect pre-clearance situations. The Irish have ordered a 'complete' review of the pre-clearance situation in Dublin and Shannon (source: Irish Times) and the Dutch have paused the negotiations for future preclearance on Schiphol (text in Dutch).

Interesting to see how this will/might affect MAN
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Old 31st Jan 2017, 15:19
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I had heard the MAN facility is close to being formally announced. With Theresa the appeaser at the helm, probably makes no difference to the UK stance on pre clearance.

It's also a bit premature to be reviewing the pre clearance facilities. For MAN at least, USPC is a long term fit, with it being 2019/2020 at the earliest before its up and running. Trump has 4 years, 8 at most, at the helm, so, this immigration thing is not a long term issue.
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Old 31st Jan 2017, 15:59
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It's also a bit premature to be reviewing the pre clearance facilities.
It's only been done to take the sting out of the situation to shut a few people up (one been an American who of course voted Democrats). You won't hear another word about the review...

I had heard the MAN facility is close to being formally announced. With Theresa the appeaser at the helm, probably makes no difference to the UK stance on pre clearance.
Probably right but chances are a Commons vote will be required to pass legislation so perhaps no harm in holding off until this blows over before announcing it.
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Old 31st Jan 2017, 16:00
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Probably never been a worse time to launch so many new US services from MAN. With the £ on the floor to the US $, thousands of Americans operating a shoot to kill policy on each other every year, and the new instability of the new Commander in Chief, I'm genuinely surprised anyone wants to visit there.
Many many years ago it was one of my top destinations, but I have no desire to go back for the foreseeable future.

Fingers crossed for some more destinations eastbound, BKK,PVG,NRT.
I don't think it would do TCX any harm in casting their eyes on more non US routes, rather than having all their eggs in one basket.
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Old 31st Jan 2017, 16:08
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Probably never been a worse time to launch so many new US services from MAN. With the £ on the floor to the US $, thousands of Americans operating a shoot to kill policy on each other every year, and the new instability of the new Commander in Chief, I'm genuinely surprised anyone wants to visit there.
Many many years ago it was one of my top destinations, but I have no desire to go back for the foreseeable future.

Fingers crossed for some more destinations eastbound, BKK,PVG,NRT.
I don't think it would do TCX any harm in casting their eyes on more non US routes, rather than having all their eggs in one basket.
Aside from the currency, over dramatic?
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Old 31st Jan 2017, 16:34
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As reported on the Cityflyer thread, the Second Stansted based aircraft rotates through Manchester to get back to London City, operating STN-IBZ-MAN-LCY.

This means that there will be 3 flights MAN-IBZ but 4 flights IBZ-MAN, and 1 flight LCY-MAN but 2 flights MAN-LCY.
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Old 31st Jan 2017, 17:27
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BA

Of course we should welcome and highlight the positives of seeing an increased presence by BA, but there is no way this signifies a change of heart or policy by BA about Regional flying. It is simply a good commercial opportunity for BA to earn revenue from LCY-based assets which are under-utilised at weekends. The routes being flown are already well-serviced from MAN by locos and charters, BA will simply add another option to a higher-end leisure market, perhaps those who are business travellers in the week and will use up their points this way. The LCY sectors are positioning flights offered for sale.

I am guessing they are not 'Speedbirds' and so we will not hear that famous call sign again except on diversion days.
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Old 31st Jan 2017, 17:41
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Goodness. If we can find any negative at all it will always be from the Manchester threads.
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Old 31st Jan 2017, 18:22
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Goodness. If we can find any negative at all it will always be from the Manchester threads.
A rather realistic assessment of BA's move from Roverman I think.

Just because it is being trumpeted by the MEN as "a huge endorsement for the airport and represents a significant turnaround for BA", we shouldn't be taken in by some of the hype. For example
BA chairman and chief executive Alex Cruz said:....In addition the Thursday night flight from London City, in the heart of the capital’s commercial district, will provide commuters with a valuable air link back to Manchester, with the return flight to London City on a Sunday.”
IMHO, a case of top class spin there.

Cityflier have filled a gap in their flying programme, so increasing aircraft utilization, probably stimulated the top end of the market and provided extra business for MAN. Win-win for everyone.

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Old 31st Jan 2017, 18:36
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I dont care what the MEN puts to be honest, it's not exactly the most watertight source of facts at the best of times. It's also, for me, got nothing to do with 'being realistic'. I don't understand what there is to be 'unrealistic' about with these new routes?

A new route is a new route, I care not a jot of its just 'filling a gap', I just don't get this Manchester thing of -new route announced 'but it's not BA proper' 'but they are only doing it because they don't know what else to do with an idle aircraft'.

Even if it is just making use of an idle aircraft, there was competition to get these routes, as I know BHX was also in contention, and with extensive charters at GLA/EDI, could have been just as easy to sup
Lament those charters with scheduled flights as seen as the aircraft are there anyway, but they chose MAN, so, that is where the positive lies.


It's a new route, let's just celebrate it shall we.
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