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Old 2nd Feb 2016, 18:25
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I have heard that it could be CityJet...
If Cityjet comes to SEN and if they reopen good routes with good scheduled services then it will be good for all involved - SEN, City, and the pax too.
RJ's perfect type a/c for SEN.

I sincerely hope this noise becomes a reality. Here's hoping!

Will be good to see that Dublin service reinstated.
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Old 2nd Feb 2016, 18:52
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Wishful thinking, I fear.......
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Old 2nd Feb 2016, 18:57
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One can only wish I guess. Cityjet are seeing competition out of LCY so maybe just maybe they see some sort of blended service straddling LCY and SEN.
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Old 2nd Feb 2016, 19:09
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As Skywork found out passengers won't follow them to the coast. London City and Southend are two different markets. If there is enough passengers wanting to use a Southend service then all well and good but don't expect the City people to give up their preferred airport.
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Old 2nd Feb 2016, 19:40
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IF CityJet did come to SEN it would be interesting to see if they did try DUB or other UK domestics (GLA, EDI, or BFS/BHD), especially with the competition at LCY. What other European destinations could they serve with an RJ? Also aren't WX taking delivery of Sukhoi Superjets this year, perhaps some spare RJ's to use?
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Old 2nd Feb 2016, 20:22
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Not sure if it has been mentioned here before but Jota have agreed terms on a second RJ85 which will arrive in March.
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Old 2nd Feb 2016, 22:55
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JOTAS latest acquisition is G-CHFE but will be reregistered as G-JOTR as far as I know it is still at CRANFIELD
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Old 3rd Feb 2016, 16:37
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Valet Car Park

Just an update to say that the proposed valet car park at Warner's Bridge was today approved by Southend Council.

260 spaces, to be used at set times (times to be confirmed).
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Old 3rd Feb 2016, 17:53
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I know I have mentioned this before but when the short and long term car park is by the terminal why would anyone want valet parking? Surely that only works when the long term car park is on the other side of the airport and is a bus ride away?
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Old 3rd Feb 2016, 19:32
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Your guess is as good as mine. I reckon this won't be built for a while, not until the demand requires it. Even if the planning permission expires they can still re-apply and it would (probably) be approved again.
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Old 8th Feb 2016, 16:51
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Bonus !

British Airways planes diverted to Southend Airport as storm Imogen hits Essex (From Echo)
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Old 8th Feb 2016, 17:17
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Sad state of affairs when the only constant good news coming out of Southend is the latest diverts from London City.

What the hell is going on at this airport when the airport can't even pick up any crumbs of the many new routes that seem to be announced almost weekly at the other London airports.

What is going on at Luton is just ridiculous. The airport is full, the place is a building site, yet passenger numbers are up 25% and still new airlines are piling into the place for the first time with new routes that often duplicate what is already on offer from the airport yet Southend doesn't even get a sniff.

Adria having abandoned Southend for a new route to Luton this year is just the icing on the cake.

If these are the good times for airlines operating to and from the UK what is going to happen to Southend when the next bubble bursts?
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Old 8th Feb 2016, 17:39
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Yes, it's strange isn't it? All down to the need for critical mass, I suppose?
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Old 8th Feb 2016, 17:55
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Feels like Southend is on care and maintenance only programme. I am sure there are folk trying to pick up business but whatever they are doing it isn't working.

There must come a point when Stobart decide enough is enough and decide to sell out which is what they are trying to do with their airline. When the airline goes I have no doubt their remaining routes from Southend will also go.

I like to think that a new broom might signal some progress but to be honest I am not so sure.
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Old 8th Feb 2016, 19:19
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CITYJET

CITYJET have now joined B.A in saying that if LCY is sold that it might not be profitable to use LCY......(welcome to SEN ) they now the AIRPORT and what it has to offer all it needs now is for SEN to get if their behinds and get talking
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Old 8th Feb 2016, 19:59
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Perhaps PITAs antipathy towards SEN could be better directed at LCY - like why would anyone pay £2bn for an airport that is the countries premier in terms of diverting flights away from it! Any perceived drawbacks at SEN would, I suspect, disappear overnight if LCY was bought to be developed for Chinese real estate and closed as an airport -LCY might even be worth £2bn for that!

As for attracting new flights, all London airports (with the exception perhaps of LHR) have been subject to '3 steps forward, two backwards' during their histories as they try to build business and become established. SEN is no different in this.
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Old 8th Feb 2016, 20:57
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What the hell is going on at this airport when the airport can't even pick up any crumbs of the many new routes that seem to be announced almost weekly at the other London airports?
Some of us have been around long enough to remember when this same question was being asked by Stansted, Luton, even Gatwick once upon a time. London is fast running out of capacity, politicians refuse to address the issue, Southends time will come, it had a lucky early break with securing the easyJet base which has tended to raise expectations above the demand curve but within 5-10 years all available capacity within easy reach of London will be like gold dust.
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Old 9th Feb 2016, 06:39
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IM a good point indeed some of us can go back as far as the 70's recalling the struggles first hand. I am sure SEN has a place and business will improve again. However, customers only have so much money and time to travel, the momentum has to slow down.

On another issue when the 3rd runway and terminal 6 arrive on scene late 2020's, LTN, STN and others will be in for further hard times, especially as Easy/others will want to be at LHR !

This industry never stands still.
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Old 9th Feb 2016, 09:32
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Meanwhile BA Cityflyer set up shop down the road at STN...
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Old 9th Feb 2016, 11:31
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A bit of a kick in the teeth for Southend as I thought Southend would have been ideal for BA Express. Looking at one of the arrival times of 01:05 I wonder if the fact that Southend is not 24 hour has cost them the airline? Also a 5.40 deparure would have also ruled out SEN.
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