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Old 8th Oct 2016, 01:04
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I don't have the patience for this, I wish CO would come back. I just can't see any waste "flying about" I think it will all be contained somehow. They're not going to be allowed to setup if there is even the slightest threat to aircraft.

I do love how you word your posts like the world agrees with you, if only you could see how daft, desperate even, you come across.

It is harebrained, I'll give you that, so are caravans, but business is business and it is all income at a time when it is desperately needed.
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Old 8th Oct 2016, 06:16
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Are we sure Peel actually own the land?
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Old 8th Oct 2016, 10:34
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Your posts look very similar to C O and DTVAirport
are you the same posters
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Old 8th Oct 2016, 11:13
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Jetstar8, I thought the same about Robert, but an ex airport worker who lives in the village said that they had heard that RR is a cop from the chopper squad at DTV.
Looking at the time of his post time 02.04am he must have been on a night shift
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Re the hangar 5 site question, I did hear that the scrap car dealer from the Eaglescliffe area had purchased Hangar 5 site it for £500,000 some time ago. It was a cash deal according to some when the Gym wasn't built. The Land registry may reveal what was actually paid for it, or Robert may be able to tell us?

The same scrapyard firm also owned the buildings behind hangar 5 towards the residential home. It may have changed hands again, a bit like Peel and the VAS share swaps.

Re Peel, they objected to a wind turbine being constructed at the Boro football ground, but from what I can see they haven't objected to the large waste proposal for Hangar 5.

Robert, while you up in your chopper could you take a couple of photo's to show how close your planned waste site will be to the airport taxi way?
As for business is business, its supposed to be an airport, and airlines are far more important than the latest harebrained rubbish scheme to arrive at DTV!

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Old 8th Oct 2016, 12:09
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Yawn no I'm not CO, Beafer and Highwides posts are identical too but they both insist they're different people.

Yes airlines are far more important and I'm sure Peel continue to talk to them, last time I checked though no airline has ever or would ever require use of the hangar 5 site!
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Old 8th Oct 2016, 15:37
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Beafer and I were twins separated at birth..he went to the dark side!!
He actually has a point...rubbish/waste/birds and aviation do not mix well..check multiple posts on other mediums..it's bad news!

Sales pitch for new houses will be interesting though!! Those guys are really going to earn their money!!
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Old 8th Oct 2016, 16:55
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They built new houses in Stockton, on a main road and within 50 meters of the local abattoir, they are all taken!
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Yeh but they get cheap mince every Friday!
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I thought the local LBA enthusiasts were bonkers until I wandered onto here! - and both places have so much in common - and that is future housing!

No offense is intended but this is the future of both sites for very good economic reason.

Airports must be correctly located and connected for ease of accessibility or the most basic routes like Cork [LBA] and Belfast [MME] simply will not be viable. (whatever advertising is written on billboards)
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Old 8th Oct 2016, 18:13
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I completely agree on the waste disposal firm being a dreadful idea, I'm not disputing that, my point is you're reading way too much into it, if it's allowed to go ahead it's because it's safe to do so with aircraft near(ish), otherwise it will be declined. Personally I don't think it will have even the slightest effect on either aircraft or housing
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I follow your argument RR but I suspect the CAA spend hours trying to help airport authorities deal with bird hazards etc.To actually possibly? Attract the very Vermin they are trying to eliminate just doesn't make sense. I'm sure you have been passed local open tips and seen the vast amount of birds attracted.Im sure this facility will be state of the art,however you can't stop accidental spillages or birds possibly following trucks.Its a very bad idea,sorry and just smacks of Peel yet again trying to raise revenue at the expense of a valuable airport and facility..for what ever reason.
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Old 11th Oct 2016, 09:26
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Changes to the board and CHIRP

What do the councils think of the latest DTV Waste site scheme
Its very quiet on all fronts even about the new planning application for houses at the airport.

When is the next DTV board meeting where all the councillors discuss their expenses and approve Peel ideas? Have any of these actually said anything?
https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/c...20423/officers

Changes in the board and statements.
https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/c...filing-history

Maybe Chirp will be interested in the latest Rubbish idea at DTV?
https://www.chirp.co.uk

Has Robert Hough been over this side of the country lately?
He will no doubt have a well rehearsed speech on the benefits of putting a waste site next to a runway. Has he informed the CAA about the latest waste proposal ?

On the subject of Thomsons being pushed out by Peel.
http://www.thetelegraphandargus.co.u...irport/?ref=rc

Thomsons should have done what Peel did to BMI when the contract was cancelled. I didn't see any of the BMI compensation put into the airport by Peel. Clever accounting no doubt.
http://www.thesolicitorsgroup.com/Do...rtainterms.pdf

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Old 11th Oct 2016, 18:13
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So are these questions or a rant?
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Old 11th Oct 2016, 18:27
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Rant

Originally Posted by N707ZS
So are these questions or a rant?
It's the same words, same rant, same questions. Best ignored!
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Old 12th Oct 2016, 15:06
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Well considering someone bought DTFT, now PTT the future must be fairly concrete, at least for GA. Good to know.
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Old 12th Oct 2016, 15:20
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Time for the original DTV sale contract to be revealed

Oh dear P330, you've changed your tune since your 2014 posts, but you do appear to favour Newcastle or should I call you CO

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Oh dear things must be bad, as I find myself agreeing with a Beafer post!
Seriously, the very question I mentioned is there along with another valid point about the buy back in 2012.
I rationalise the opinions based on two different groups of people. Firstly, DTV Airport backs firmly the local management. I agree with him 100%. The local management are doing their best in the face of extreme adversity, limited resources and a difficult market. The problem though isn't really with the local management, it has been with the owners."


Time for the original DTV sale contract to be revealed I think. Why is being kept a secret????
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Old 12th Oct 2016, 18:52
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Oh Beafer, you are desperate aren't you
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Old 12th Oct 2016, 19:37
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On a more serious note, has anyone ever seen an official update on the master plan? If we liken it to a business plan, it will have key deliverables, time frames, hurdles etc and you would expect someone to measuring how progress is going against each of those deliverables.

Has anything being released? Are things on track? Have new ideas emerged?
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On a more serious note, has anyone ever seen an official update on the master plan?
No

If we liken it to a business plan, it will have key deliverables, time frames, hurdles etc and you would expect someone to measuring how progress is going against each of those deliverables.
Yes, that is what you would expect to see, and hopefully they exist and are being monitored - must admit, I wouldn't expect this to be in the public domain, but I would have expected some sort of update (even something like "the uncertainty created by Brexit is affecting investment plans..." )


Has anything being released?
No

Are things on track?
Who knows

Have new ideas emerged?
No

Expanding slightly, there has been very little comment of substance, and no updating of the plan. As there was no timescales in the Masterplan (odd sort of plan, then...), hard to say if things are on schedule. If the aim was to use the housebuilding to fund the rest of the development, that doesn't seem to be going slowly - my understanding is that planning has been applied for but not yet approved. The only new 'ideas' have been the somewhat tactical taking of opportunities such as Skydive StGeorge and the recently discussed waste firm - neither would seem to fit into any strategic vision for the site but help keep the wheels turning.

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Old 12th Oct 2016, 23:21
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My understanding is the airport is quite happy with the masterplan progress, any lack of update from them probably boils down to Peel's in general lack of public communication skills which date back long before the masterplan
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