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Old 5th Oct 2016, 18:43
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Application for using Hangar 5 site as waste transfer station

In todays public announcements in the Evening Gazette.

"NORWASTE Group ltd of Aviation House, Hangar 5, Durham Tees Valley Airport is applying to use the same address as an operating centre of 5 goods vehicles with 0 trailers.
Owners of land or buildings near the operating centre who believe it will affect them are asked to write to the Traffic Commissionaire at Hillcrest House in Leeds within 21 days."

Noted an environment application on web. Waste site next to a new housing estate?
https://www.gov.uk/government/public...-advertisement

https://www.gov.uk/government/public...-advertisement
Application number
EPR/EB3402CR/A001

Regulated facility type
A11 : Household, Commercial & Industrial Waste Transfer Station

https://www.endole.co.uk/company/102...aste-group-ltd

https://www.companysearchesmadesimpl...ste-group-ltd/

Maybe this is part of Robert Houghs Master plan part 3
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Old 5th Oct 2016, 19:59
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Beafer...you are talking rubbish...

Oh well another part of the master plan for DTV fits in to place ?
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Old 6th Oct 2016, 05:48
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I'm sure it'll be legitimate
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Waste station - new houses - runway - CAA informed yet??

Re the comment by Robert "I'm sure it'll be legitimate"

Didn't doubt it was a legitimate operation with the company publicly applying for an environment licence, and for the use of 5 goods vehicles to be used at the hangar 5 site.

I added the public press announcement as I couldn't recall seeing a "Waste Station for Household and Industrial waste" amongst Robert Houghs master plans when he was recently questioned by the press? Maybe the waste will be from all the prospective airlines waiting to use DTV Airport?

I think the problems of rubbish blowing across the runway and taxi ways may be an issue if the Peel management haven't thought about informing the CAA of these plans.
Anyone know if they are legally bound to inform the CAA? Will it attract vermin and birds? Hmmmm birds and aircraft - not a good mix.

5 HGV trucks carrying household and industrial waste through the new Peel housing estate and then sorting it at the proposed DTV Airport waste station should be an interesting selling point for the new house builder who I was told is already lined up
http://thebestofzambia.com/app/uploa...ck-dumping.jpg

How did the caravan scheme turn out for Peel? Was there a time frame for the Master Plan 1 or 2? I can't recall if any year was mentioned for the Hough plans?

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Does no-one read things anymore?

It's just a trucking yard - look at the text in the announcement! They'd have a job transporting rubbish with no trailers wouldn't they!
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Fixed axle trucks don't need trailers. Most refuse trucks don't have trailers
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Old 6th Oct 2016, 15:59
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Beafer, what I meant was, there is no way in a month of Sundays this operation will have any impact on the airport, the future housing estate, the hospital, the rail line or whatever else is around that area, I would imagine most people won't even realise it's there. You've just found another reason to be negative and you took it, as per
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Old 6th Oct 2016, 16:06
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Point taken, they're probably just skip lorries anyway, not quite HGV's are they...

Also, have you actually looked at the masterplan - you'd have to go a round about trip to get to H5 through the housing estate...
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Details are in the fine print - Environmental waste application for DTV Airport H5

Golfkilomike from Doncaster, you may wish to take a look at the Environmental application which the Norwaste Group company have made for Hangar 5. I did list it earlier.

This is a copy of what it encloses if you'd like to have a look.
Page 2 of 10 shows that they expect to have a Annual Throughput of 17,000 tonnes of waste per year, with a total storage capacity of 250 tonnes on the site at any one time. I think thats more than just a few skips don't you?
Look for the chart notes 1 and 2 below the 17,000 tonnes a year part.

https://consult.environment-agency.g...on%20Forms.pdf

The companies main application is listed here: click on the relevant documents which reveal more online.
https://www.gov.uk/government/public...-advertisement
I think you'll find there is only going to be one road past the planned estate which leads to H5 which runs past the old Tower Works etc.

The Norwaste company are using a Bolton based environmental firm to handle the application as shown in the pdf documents. Are Peel Holdings based near Bolton??
Waste mentioned is Household and Industrial from what I can see.

Waste and airports don't mix. Birds and vermin will be attracted any type of waste which I would have thought posed a risk to aircraft on the runway less than 200m away?
Let me know what you think?
The road will pass the planned housing estate via the old Tower Works unless another access lane is opened.

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Old 6th Oct 2016, 21:27
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Beafer, birds and vermin will not be attracted, it's 2016 not 1936 - more than enough controls will be put in place, also (and I stand to be corrected) I was under the impression the housing estate access would be via the main terminal access road, whilst this waste company would use the old access road, which in my book just about keeps them away from the houses.
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Old 6th Oct 2016, 22:29
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Good luck with the vermin control while dealing with 17,000 tonnes of expected waste per year

The new road which was built using ONE funding and leads into terminal is the planned access road for the housing estate, BUT the old access road passes around the perimeter of the new housing estate.

They may add another road but as the plans stand the route into the Hangar 5 tip passes close to the old Tower Works and Hotel, unless another entrance is made of course.

As the Master Plan changes by the month anything is possible the way Peel work.
Did anyone hear know about the proposed Industrial and Household Waste Station as I can't see it on any of the Peel DTV Master Plans?

Apparently an airport insider told a friend in the village that Peel will be advertising the upcoming vacant office and small hangar between Hangars 1 and 2 in a few months.
Wonder who'll snap that one up? Perfect location for sycamore me thinks.
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Beafer, the masterplan hasn't changed at all, part of that plan included attracting multiple and varied businesses to the site, just because one of them is waste disposal of some sort doesn't make the plan any different, if anything it shows Peel are achieving the goals set out in the plan!
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Old 7th Oct 2016, 05:25
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The question is really what is the end product of the waste? Waste for landfill is obviously horrendous, recycled waste however is not too bad, presumably this will be Paper processing. Which would have to be very carefully controlled regards the runway. Having delivered to these sites I can tell you the FOD risk is massive.
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As long as the birds are squawking ,ATC should have no trouble keeping them away from aircraft?
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Originally Posted by highwideandugly
As long as the birds are squawking ,ATC should have no trouble keeping them away from aircraft?
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On a serious note this is a rubbish idea....
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FOD thats the word I was looking for. Well said James.

Highwide- birds squawking, nice one
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If the FOD risk is massive then they won't be allowed to set-up in which case we have nothing to worry about
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Waste site not compatible with an active airport & planes

Its about time all local Environmental Licence applications were made public in the local press to alert neighbours to schemes such as this one at DTV Airport.

An airport is probably the worst location with regards rubbish blowing around. There are plenty of brownfield sites for tips.

Th old hangar 5 site boundary is next to the DTV Airport railway terminal and airport fence line.
The edge of the planned waste site it is 50 metres from the edge of the main taxi way, and approximately 300m from the main runway. (using google earth ruler)
Its about 70m to the rear of Hangar 3 where the air ambulance helicopter starts its blades.

The photo I have showing how close the old hangar 5 site is to the taxiway won't attach to PPRune. If anyone has one they can add it will show it better.

Lets hope the press ask the CAA what they make of the ludicrous idea of placing a waste site with an estimated throughput of 17,000 tonnes of waste each year next to an active airport.
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Beafer, I feel I've provided a more than acceptable response to your concerns at least twice, however, to put it to bed once and for all, there's a FoDTVA meeting tonight, I'm not going but I know someone who is, I'll arrange for the subject to be raised
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Volunteers for litter duties needed at DTV

Thank you Robert but I'll be waiting for the CAA to look into the latest harebrained scheme at DTV.
That is unless your an expert on the subject of waste handling next to an airport runway, and can provide more than a couple of lines on it Robert?

A friends meeting?? I wonder if the waste company management, or Peels spokesman Mr Hough will be there? Somehow I doubt it.

Maybe the friends will volunteer to pick up any of the estimated 17,000 tonnes of Industrial and Household waste planned for the site, which will be no doubt be flying about down at Hangar 5

Has Peel got anything to say on the Waste matter?
Maybe the same Robert who answered these questions in June may be able to let us know Over to Robert
Q&A with Durham Tees Valley Airport boss on holiday flights, housing and 'facing reality' - Gazette Live
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