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Hopefully, one day they'll rip it down along with everything behind it. What's there now is tired and the old departures area and mezzanine, for example, look like a turd that somebody has sprayed with Mr Sheen. If I think about that area, I'm primarily reminded of (beyond from the general cheapneas/dated-ness/hideousness) is the stench of that cheap laminate flooring.
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I can't see a real reason why it had to be kept apart from lost first floor office space and the location of where the air conditioning equipment for the new build is located on one of its balconies. It is a separate independent building that coaches used to pass through with offices over the top that was filled in over the years first to increase the then arrivals waiting area and then to provide extra check-in desks.
When the development is complete arriving passengers will pass through this building from the baggage belts to the arrivals waiting area.
In the photo of the CTA roundabout I can count 5 separate buildings that make up the terminal and there is at least another 3 or 4 that are out of sight. (Edit) make that 6 as I can just see the top of the old departure lounge that was added to the original terminal on the extreme left.
When the development is complete arriving passengers will pass through this building from the baggage belts to the arrivals waiting area.
In the photo of the CTA roundabout I can count 5 separate buildings that make up the terminal and there is at least another 3 or 4 that are out of sight. (Edit) make that 6 as I can just see the top of the old departure lounge that was added to the original terminal on the extreme left.
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Well I was thinking the same. Traditionally the airport has not been that good with its topery so expect the sign to gradually disappear.
Of course with that sign pointing out that the midterm has free drop off parking the airport might have been keen that no one knows that fact, as drivers only get to glimpse the sign as they pass assuming they are not stuck in a traffic jam.
Of course with that sign pointing out that the midterm has free drop off parking the airport might have been keen that no one knows that fact, as drivers only get to glimpse the sign as they pass assuming they are not stuck in a traffic jam.
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When one spends a considerable time out of the UK one of the first things you notice when you return is the amount of signs and clutter everywhere. Do not park here, cameras are in operation etc. I notice some time ago waiting at the gate to board at Luton and looked around the walls by the entrance and there at least six notices spouting on about one thing or another. At least there wasn't the famous sign to be found on a road sign on social media 'this sign not in use'. Probably the doughnut who decided to put that sign up by the tree!
Notice Monarch have a few more flights today including two aircraft on W patterns. Looks like easy need 23 based aircraft at the moment for the schedule - that includes the SmartLynx aircraft.
Notice Monarch have a few more flights today including two aircraft on W patterns. Looks like easy need 23 based aircraft at the moment for the schedule - that includes the SmartLynx aircraft.
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A close friend had to drop her daughter and friends at the airport at 05.00 She was surprised that the traffic was all backed up at that time. She was also annoyed that the drop off cost £3.
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So your friend hasn't been to Luton for a few years then?
The big test will be when the drop off zone is extended to its full length in a few weeks time. When it is the zone will go back to 4 pedestrian crossings rather than the present 2, as the inbound left hand pavement will lose its route to the terminal without crossing the drop off lane not once but twice.
The 2 inbound crossings were closed down a few weeks after opening due to traffic congestion but I have noticed that the new horseshoe that will mark the far end of the drop off zone has no pavement around it with just earth as per the original drawings.
Can't help but think it is all going to end in tears as 3 out of 4 kerbsides involves passengers crossing the drop off lane at least once and sometimes twice. 2 crossings brings the airport to a standstill so now we will get 4.
The big test will be when the drop off zone is extended to its full length in a few weeks time. When it is the zone will go back to 4 pedestrian crossings rather than the present 2, as the inbound left hand pavement will lose its route to the terminal without crossing the drop off lane not once but twice.
The 2 inbound crossings were closed down a few weeks after opening due to traffic congestion but I have noticed that the new horseshoe that will mark the far end of the drop off zone has no pavement around it with just earth as per the original drawings.
Can't help but think it is all going to end in tears as 3 out of 4 kerbsides involves passengers crossing the drop off lane at least once and sometimes twice. 2 crossings brings the airport to a standstill so now we will get 4.
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Thanks for the tips at parking at LTN Parkway, worked out great and went very smoothly, £12.40 for three days parking and £3.40 for the bus to the terminal.
Beats the £30+ Airparks and the other providers wanted for a weekend away.
My concern was that the car park would be pay and display and had to by a new ticket for every 24 hour period, but this was not the case and you just pay on departure.
Beats the £30+ Airparks and the other providers wanted for a weekend away.
My concern was that the car park would be pay and display and had to by a new ticket for every 24 hour period, but this was not the case and you just pay on departure.
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It has been confirmed that work on the second multistory inside the CTA should start next year with part of the mid term also getting an upper floor via some sort of mezzanine floor arrangement.
We will have to see if the replacement drop off zone will be inside the multistory with drop off lanes running through the middle of the ground floor or external to it. Also how the airport intends to get passengers over the ring road as the existing footbridge is just not wide enough. I am thinking it will have to be via a slope arrangement due to passenger volumes.
We will have to see if the replacement drop off zone will be inside the multistory with drop off lanes running through the middle of the ground floor or external to it. Also how the airport intends to get passengers over the ring road as the existing footbridge is just not wide enough. I am thinking it will have to be via a slope arrangement due to passenger volumes.
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According to a Luton Airport Notice published a couple of days ago, the Dual Carriageway in/out of the airport CTA should open tomorrow - 4th May (originally planned for 03May)
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Not a chance of that happening as a section of kerbing has got to be moved between the traffic lights and the tunnel. Also other minor works need to take place but the opening is not far away now. I would say maybe next week or so for the inbound but the outbound could fully open this week although a section outside the Holiday Inn was being dug up today.
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Te he Scottish and NI independence must have already happened for Av Geek
Interesting post from LTNman on the SEN thread about increased slots becoming available when the 08 full length taxiway is finished. I wonder how the airport will use this? Over a two hour period on Monday only four aircraft used the full length - A Blue Air 737-400, an exec MD87 and a couple of Wizzair A321s, although I felt the OTP bound Blue Air 738 from the intersection looked tight - I'm sure they had done their numbers. If that is typical then flow rate won't change very much. However if the airport actually make full length departures more common, a major effect would be de-cluttering of taxiway alpha which at one period had five aircraft queueing both to the east and north of the alpha/bravo intersection.
Interesting post from LTNman on the SEN thread about increased slots becoming available when the 08 full length taxiway is finished. I wonder how the airport will use this? Over a two hour period on Monday only four aircraft used the full length - A Blue Air 737-400, an exec MD87 and a couple of Wizzair A321s, although I felt the OTP bound Blue Air 738 from the intersection looked tight - I'm sure they had done their numbers. If that is typical then flow rate won't change very much. However if the airport actually make full length departures more common, a major effect would be de-cluttering of taxiway alpha which at one period had five aircraft queueing both to the east and north of the alpha/bravo intersection.
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The existing runway movement rate is set by the capacity of departures on runway 08 as more aircraft need to backtrack using that runway and the backtrack is longer than for 26.
This is set at 34 movements per hour and will increase ultimately to 40 movements per hour as once the 08 end is finished the weak link then switches to 26 until that runway gets its new taxiway. I don't know what the interim movement rate will be apart from somewhere between the 2 figures but the 26 taxiway extension is only a small one in comparison to 08 so I would expect the figure will be greater than half the difference.
Another advantage to the 08 taxiway extension is that the junction to the main apron won't get blocked any more.
The exit route of the dual carriageway did indeed open as 2 lanes today for its full length and the inbound carriageway opened as 2 lanes from just past the traffic lights.
I would think this has more to do with commitments made to the airport about its opening date as there is still work to be done to the central reservation either side of the tunnel so the cones will be back out soon so the work can be finished. Also the traffic lights have yet to be switched on.
This is set at 34 movements per hour and will increase ultimately to 40 movements per hour as once the 08 end is finished the weak link then switches to 26 until that runway gets its new taxiway. I don't know what the interim movement rate will be apart from somewhere between the 2 figures but the 26 taxiway extension is only a small one in comparison to 08 so I would expect the figure will be greater than half the difference.
Another advantage to the 08 taxiway extension is that the junction to the main apron won't get blocked any more.
The exit route of the dual carriageway did indeed open as 2 lanes today for its full length and the inbound carriageway opened as 2 lanes from just past the traffic lights.
I would think this has more to do with commitments made to the airport about its opening date as there is still work to be done to the central reservation either side of the tunnel so the cones will be back out soon so the work can be finished. Also the traffic lights have yet to be switched on.
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Not a chance of that happening as a section of kerbing has got to be moved between the traffic lights and the tunnel. Also other minor works need to take place but the opening is not far away now. I would say maybe next week or so for the inbound but the outbound could fully open this week although a section outside the Holiday Inn was being dug up today.
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Trust me the dual carriageway is not finished so the cones will be out in the days to come. I would think the contractor was under pressure to open the road so that is what they have done without it being completed. As I said before there is still a good week of work left.
I am also thinking the inbound route though the tunnel will have its surface lifted in the days to come as the road there is in a shocking state. The new outbound route has been given double red lines while the inbound route through the tunnel hasn't which is another reason why I think the surface will be replaced
I am also thinking the inbound route though the tunnel will have its surface lifted in the days to come as the road there is in a shocking state. The new outbound route has been given double red lines while the inbound route through the tunnel hasn't which is another reason why I think the surface will be replaced
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Is FlyKiss still operating from Luton (and in general as an airline!) and any ideas on their passenger numbers?
There website is loading, but everytime you click on the section to book a flight, it comes up with an error massage. Quite often smaller airlines use a third party booking engine for their flights, and if the booking part has been taken down, this would explain the errors.
There website is loading, but everytime you click on the section to book a flight, it comes up with an error massage. Quite often smaller airlines use a third party booking engine for their flights, and if the booking part has been taken down, this would explain the errors.