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For me, the success of failure of the new drop-off zone design will depend very much on behaviour of drivers.
Having paced it out I think this new lane is slightly wider allowing cars to pass but it all depends how it is marked out. Pinch points will include the pedestrian crossing points which at the moment can hold cars up when there is a stream of passengers crossing. There is no walk around option for passengers that use the pavement on the southern side. The plan shows an earth bank on the loop with no pavement so those passengers will have to cross the lane twice.
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Sorry for the confusion regarding the dual carriageway.
Presumably this modular drainage system is also to resolve the problem with the flooding of the tunnel on occasions.
Constructor ! As from the photo, the tunnel section still looks below the level at the Holiday Inn would I be correct in thinking that underground pumps would be installed to move the flow of storm water from the tunnel into these underground tanks and would it be automatic depending on reaching a certain level or flow rate?
Presumably this modular drainage system is also to resolve the problem with the flooding of the tunnel on occasions.
Constructor ! As from the photo, the tunnel section still looks below the level at the Holiday Inn would I be correct in thinking that underground pumps would be installed to move the flow of storm water from the tunnel into these underground tanks and would it be automatic depending on reaching a certain level or flow rate?
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Vueling
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Has gone from 14 to 16 with 2 extra flights on Friday and Sunday afternoons
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Has gone from 14 to 13 with Saturday only being the morning flight
Zurich
Summer only
Florence
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Do you think that with all the growth at Luton in recent years that airlines like easyJet will not announce any new routes for W16 due to the airport getting very congested. We have already seen that easyJet only announced two new routes for S16, Jersey and seasonal service to Dubrovnik. New airlines like Vueling, will probably plan to grow.
When all the development is finished and all the extra stands complete, how many more aircraft could be based at the airport? Also in the future, where could we see more extra stands being created? They are running out of space. Regarding the cost cutting, in the redevelopment it said they planned to upgrade the interior and finishes of the terminal. Will be interesting to see all the cost cutting happening there.
I understand why Florence would be seasonal but I think it is odd that Vueling's Zurich service is only operating in the summer only.
When all the development is finished and all the extra stands complete, how many more aircraft could be based at the airport? Also in the future, where could we see more extra stands being created? They are running out of space. Regarding the cost cutting, in the redevelopment it said they planned to upgrade the interior and finishes of the terminal. Will be interesting to see all the cost cutting happening there.
I understand why Florence would be seasonal but I think it is odd that Vueling's Zurich service is only operating in the summer only.
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Yes there was on this plan but the roundabout was taken away.
As far as I am aware they decided to just make the roundabout larger. There will be traffic lights installed at the junction of the mid term car park. Some where along this route the people mover will now have to cross the road.
As for the flooding I think most of the flooding was caused by the run off from over the bridge. There has been a lot of work taking place over the bridge so maybe the new drainage will be more about directing this run off away from the tunnel?
As far as I am aware they decided to just make the roundabout larger. There will be traffic lights installed at the junction of the mid term car park. Some where along this route the people mover will now have to cross the road.
As for the flooding I think most of the flooding was caused by the run off from over the bridge. There has been a lot of work taking place over the bridge so maybe the new drainage will be more about directing this run off away from the tunnel?
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Just found the dimensions of the drop off lane. The two curb side drop offs are each 2.5m wide with the traffic lane in the middle 4.5m wide. So is that wide enough for cars to pass each other if a car stops in the road?
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LTNMan the picture you posted earlier showing the planned design for the drop-off area, is there a full one showing the whole CTA? I would just like to have a look to jog my memory of what the CTA will look like upon completion.
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Summer season here so there is no surprise that the traffic tailbacks are back. Just had a quick look and they go beyond the Ibis roundabout and heading down the hill.
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Flew to Copenhagen yesterday on the 0835 Ryanair flight, only about 15 empty seats. A bit of traffic queuing at 0600 but only took 3/4 mins,. Terminal was heaving but got through security in 10 mins. New duty free is very smart but made my way to the new Aspire Lounge which was excellent, the £1m refurb has transformed the place. The rest of the terminal was packed and not helped since parts are boarded up for expansion works. Temporary seating is also starting to appear along the walkways, which were well utilised. Overall experience quite good, considering all the work that is taking place in an area, the size of a postage stamp. Back with easy tomorrow night.
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Good report PowerJet I hear quite a few of the new e-passort readers don't work and the staffing levels by Border Force are shocking at peak times leading to many complaints so we look forward to your return report.
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Might be able to clarify a few points raised over the weekend. The fibreglass tank LTN man saw is probably a Petrol/Oil interceptor. All of the Surface Water drainage from the Mid term car will pass through this tank. It separates oil from water, clean water going into the system.However they do need emptying on a regular basis. The one I installed airside located just before the soakaways was, from memory, 25000 litres. I think there were a couple of smaller ones put in on the drains coming off the east apron.
I am in part now surmising. The flooding in the underpass is probably caused by the outfall pipe in the old Airport Way (Spitilsea Lane) being too small,from memory 450mm dia, maybe 600mm. The gradient from the underpass to the Holiday Inn roundabout is very flat. The depth of the drain is about 1.0m at the underpass and at the Holiday in end 5-6m deep.I do not think their is a pump on that system, all gravity. I suspect the main apron drains into this pipe. With heavy rainfall and instant run off the pipe simply fills up and the water comes back up the gullies and there is your flood. The east apron drains to the airside soakaways. I would think all of the setdown area, short term and multi storey car parks will also drain that way.
The idea to put in intermediate turnout exits from the set down area is sound. If the car has finished the set down get rid of it asap. Driver behaviour well that is something else, not exclusive to LLA car parking.
I am in part now surmising. The flooding in the underpass is probably caused by the outfall pipe in the old Airport Way (Spitilsea Lane) being too small,from memory 450mm dia, maybe 600mm. The gradient from the underpass to the Holiday Inn roundabout is very flat. The depth of the drain is about 1.0m at the underpass and at the Holiday in end 5-6m deep.I do not think their is a pump on that system, all gravity. I suspect the main apron drains into this pipe. With heavy rainfall and instant run off the pipe simply fills up and the water comes back up the gullies and there is your flood. The east apron drains to the airside soakaways. I would think all of the setdown area, short term and multi storey car parks will also drain that way.
The idea to put in intermediate turnout exits from the set down area is sound. If the car has finished the set down get rid of it asap. Driver behaviour well that is something else, not exclusive to LLA car parking.
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Seems that someone at Swissport can't count passengers! Some good video of Luton including the building work and an airport that is full of aircraft.
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I hope I don't get in trouble for asking this on here, but curious on how well AtlasGlobal are doing on their LTN-IST route, especially with the security issues in the city in recent months.
Also does the route see much connecting traffic?
I was just looking on Opodo at flights to Dubai and typed "London" as the departure city to give more options and the first option that came up was AtlasGlobal from Luton to Sharjah, connecting in Istanbul for under £200 which is crazy!
Very tempted to book, but don't want to take the risk if something like the flights get withdrawn. I also never knew they offered connections.
Also does the route see much connecting traffic?
I was just looking on Opodo at flights to Dubai and typed "London" as the departure city to give more options and the first option that came up was AtlasGlobal from Luton to Sharjah, connecting in Istanbul for under £200 which is crazy!
Very tempted to book, but don't want to take the risk if something like the flights get withdrawn. I also never knew they offered connections.
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Well back into Luton from Copenhagen last night, on stand at 21.15 and exited the Mid-Term car park at 21.40. Must have been the quickest I have ever transited Luton in my life. Passport Control was busy but moving quickly. Nearly all the manned desks were in operation but only about 50% of the e-gates were working. Nonetheless, passing through here only took less than 5 mins, a record for me. One case and a buggy were on the carousel when we arrived, no waiting . Unfortunately this whole arrivals area does look somewhat shabby, and doesn't create the best impression for arriving pax. Hopefully this will improve as terminal improvements progress. Onward to the new coach departure area was easy, and working well. The new silver Transfer coaches looked very smart and left about a minute after we boarded, allthough less than half full. Perhaps we were just lucky, and the often discussed problems, affecting arrivals, didn't happen to us. Rating 8/10 for me.
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I have also arrived on that particular flight which beats the mass of arrivals an hour or so later and I was also out in a whisk. Also agree that the carousel area looks rough but I think it will be one of the last areas to get a make over on phase 1.
I heard that someone with access to the load sheets said it is doing very well a few weeks ago. Not sure what doing very well actually meant though.
I hope I don't get in trouble for asking this on here, but curious on how well AtlasGlobal are doing on their LTN-IST route, especially with the security issues in the city in recent months.
Surely a pure coincidence but Atlas is normally operated with an A321 with occasional A320's. For most of the last week this has been operating with an A319, meaning up to 65 passengers less per flight.