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Old 28th Apr 2016, 09:03
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La Compagnie and VLM have been flying from Luton for 1 year now.
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Originally Posted by Boeing737-8
Another random destination for the airport. Would of been better seeing Iberia Express starting LTN TO MAD
What's wrong with random, unusual destinations and who's to say another service to Madrid won't happen?
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Tuesday and Thursday late morning after the Wizz planes have all departed is not absolute peak period - runway capacity is there to be used. An experimental route from an airline with very little market share at Luton should be encouraged to diversify the airline customer base and in the hope that it returns next year with a larger aircraft.

Last year I flew Vigo-Luton. I intend to buy a ticket to San Sebastian for July or August.
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Nothing's wrong with random. Makes the airport different from others but it would be nice to see more of the core routes before the destinations from no where come up.
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Wizz and Ryanair thrive on destinations most people haven't heard of and I for one could not even tell you what country they are in.
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May I suggest that San Sebastian is not "nowhere".It is quite a large city on the North coast of Spain (and is one of two cities which are the European city of culture for 2016); smacks of ignorance to me. A lot of people in Spain might easily say where the heck is Luton!

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San Sebastion is not available via the BA website yet, but booking via Air Nostrum gives return fares of about £105 which is excellent value.
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Weekly redevelopment update

More of Signatures new apron has opened facing the NW corner. As can just be seen an aircraft is now parking on it. The building continues to be clad including large glass areas both back and front.


Not much has happened to the new duel carriageway in recent weeks although this week additional drainage is going in after the land was flattened several weeks ago.


Work continues on the multistory car park. When finished the majority of the car park will have 18 x 5 rows of columns excluding the ramps. Work is now starting on the 8th row but so far due to access the car park is only 4 columns wide. As can be seen one of the two ramps has gone in.


Work has started on part of the approach road to the drop off area and ring road as the short term car park shrinks by the day


Again more cost cutting can be seen with the first core not having plate glass, as per the design brief, but substituted for cheap as chips opaque conservatory roof type flexible plastic as per the bridge. No doubt it won't be long before someone punches a hole in it.


Additional lighting and more hoardings have gone up in the terminal. With the old revolving doors blocked off it was surprising how gloomy that corner of the terminal had become.

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Did you pop into Whitemountain about the drop off area height variation and lamppost .
if so what was their response?.
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That multi story is getting very big already. Do you have anymore angles of the car park LTNMAN
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Did you pop into Whitemountain about the drop off area height variation and lamppost .
if so what was their response?.
I had a word in the right ear but was told the height difference is because of disabled access on one side only. As for the lamp post I suspect it just hasn't been removed yet.

This one is just as bad but the left hand side won't have road access as this will be the new airside boundary but the drop is still pronounced across the width of what will be the pavement.


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The plans show the car park as 5 columns wide for most of its length plus the ramps so there should be more width to come. This end at the moment is only 3 columns wide. The car park is being built to allow for cars to get bigger and taller as the years go by.



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I really don't like the plastic it just looks so tacky and they will keep having to replace them if as you say people keep damaging them. They are trying to redeem their image as a run down tacky airport, but with all this cost cutting who knows, although anything is better than what it is currently. The multi story is coming on really well, when is it poised to be completed? I bet the airport is really starting to get ridiculous busier with the so called 'summer season' fully starting. I personally think that the multi-story, drop off & dualling of the road is a priority at the moment to deal with the influx of passengers.

I was also thinking as we have talked before about what could be put in place if easyJet's hangar 89 was to be demolished, I was thinking of an on-site hotel with parking, maybe a Premier Inn. Even if this did not happen surely another hotel is needed in the area, as there is only 2 Holiday Inns & one Ibis in close vicinity. A leading brand, like Premier Inn, who are at most airports in the UK would surely benefit. They currently have a hotel which they call 'Luton Airport' which is a 4 minute drive from the airport, hardly walking distance.

Just a heads up, Vueling's array of Florence flights start on Monday and are due to end mid June. I have also noticed that Transavia's Orly flights have been heavily delayed most days and yesterday the evening flight was cancelled. Not a good start. Some of easyJet's seasonal routes have started to Antalya & Paphos and the Ibiza and Menorca flights start this weekend. The rest of the seasonal routes are starting around mid-may.

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Old 29th Apr 2016, 21:10
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That's because of the French air strike causing long delays.
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I think the multistory car park is due to be finished around October / November time.

The traffic flows haven't been too bad in recent weeks. With the aid of google map and selecting traffic from the drop down menu technology gives me live reports from the comfort of home. This morning at 5:10 the end of the queue was around the tunnel entrance.

We will have to see what happens when the new drop off area opens with its 2 lanes as it is being opened in 3 stages so it might be the case that the drop off area gets smaller before it gets bigger. It worth remembering that the existing drop off area has 4 lanes and this area was the overflow to the main area that closed late last summer.


It's clear that the airport has been looking to save money as it scaled back some of the terminal infill projects and also the link to the new pier has been reduced in scale.

Cheap finishes so far include the mid term car park with its gravel parking bays that had large puddles in them before it had even opened.

The covered walkway as used by Tesco's that can be bought out of a catalogue and depending whether sides and ends are added are also used for trolley storage. The concrete foundations of different sizes for the walkway that are not even covered in tarmac.

Now we have the conservatory roof panels at £15 a sheet. https://www.roofingsuperstore.co.uk/...FY8y0wodrrMMXg making what could have been a walk with a view to just a boring walk through a tube.

The worrying point to note is that so far not much has actually been finished so we will wait and see how the terminal frontage canopy looks as that will be the defining image of the terminal.

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Old 30th Apr 2016, 00:10
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Thanks for the update ref the drop off area-so trolleys may well be drifting into the road.
I am curious about the dual carriage way photo.The width of that section looks awfully wide, either the central reservation will be large or is something else going on.
You could fit a dual carriageway just in the section they have excavated
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I am curious about the dual carriage way photo.The width of that section looks awfully wide, either the central reservation will be large or is something else going on.
You could fit a dual carriageway just in the section they have excavated
In the flesh the road looks 2 cars wide. At the point where the photo was taken the dual carriageway is actually the ring road and doesn't become a dual carriageway again until the road returns, which can just be seen in the bottom left of the screen print as it passes back under the second yet to be built passenger bridge, as shown by the dotted lines.

No doubt when it is all opens there will be a quite a few passengers that will leap out of cars on this stretch of road, as they try to evade the pay barriers. With the pay barriers moved away from the drop off zone there will be no way to avoid them once a car has passed under taxiway Alpha.

The red zone is a barrier controlled pick up and collection point for off site car park company coaches that is behind the camera that hasn't been started yet. The X marks where the photo was taken looking towards taxiway Delta.
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Road

I think the reference to road width is in the photograph showing the excavated length in front of the mid term car park/fire station access. If you line up the tunnel portal where the road will come out against the excavated width, very wide ?
The choice of materials to be used is dependant on the Form of Contract LLAO has used to carry out the works. If a Design and Build form has been used the client would simply give his requirements i.e. A covered walkway. The contractor then designs the walkway, with his choice of materials. May not be LLAO with the actual shopping trolley
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For me, the success of failure of the new drop-off zone design will depend very much on behaviour of drivers. With just a single, curved drop-off lane, if drivers simply hang around at the beginning of the drop-off zone, fearing that if they drive further they may miss spaces (not knowing they can drive around again without paying), then there could be a backlog of cars trying to get in. When that happens, drivers just start dropping off people in the middle of the road and the situation snowballs. Hopefully the fact that the far left of the drop-off zone (as you look at LTNman's plan) is closest to the terminal entrance will at least encourage drivers to go as far as the 180 degree curve.


The exit design is clearly much improved. Drivers don't reach the barriers to pay the drop-off fee until they've driven all the way round the exit route around the short term car park.
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Old 30th Apr 2016, 08:18
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Ahh sorry for my confusion, clearly I am losing the plot. It is that wide due to the modular drainage system that for most of its length sits at the side of the carriageway. When it gets down to the Holiday Inn roundabout it appears that it will sit under the road. The drainage that went in last week was what looked like fiberglass storage tanks.

Here was a photo that I took when the contractor started to dig out the second pit after filling the first pit with what looked like milk creates. This photo was taken on February 12th.


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