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FAA ADS-B Out needed for 2015 for US ops plus (needs new cockpit system displays specific to 767)
Ooops, I have received a friendly prompt that they may not meet DO-260B. Ahem. But that's not required by FAA until 2020:
• ADS-B Out for Gulf of Mexico Access benefits DO-260A on 1-JAN-2010
• ADS-B Out for Class A, B, C Airspace DO-260B Equipage by 1-JAN-2020
Last edited by El Bunto; 21st Feb 2014 at 05:53.
The 14 long-haul B763s already have ADS-B Out with 1090 Extender Squitter and meet FAA standards (AC 20-165A, DO-260B).
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I remember they also moved SYD to Mixed Fleet from World fleet, that reduced the operational costs. I believe crew have 2 days off in SIN, 1 day off in SYD and a further two off in SIN before returining back to EGLL.
I've also heard about BA possibly going via HKG to Australia instead of SIN.
I think the 787-900 will be used on some 777 routes also. It seems likely that BA will be ordering only twins and not 4 engines 4 longhaul
I've also heard about BA possibly going via HKG to Australia instead of SIN.
I think the 787-900 will be used on some 777 routes also. It seems likely that BA will be ordering only twins and not 4 engines 4 longhaul
It seems likely that BA will be ordering only twins and not 4 engines 4 longhaul
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It would make sense if they have. The average Break-Even for the type is in excess of 600 seats occupied.
BA loses money every time they fly the 380. It's over heavy, over-powered and needs a stretch to become economical.
That'll upset the boys at BA who think they're extra special just because they fly this type!
BA loses money every time they fly the 380. It's over heavy, over-powered and needs a stretch to become economical.
That'll upset the boys at BA who think they're extra special just because they fly this type!
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It would make sense if they have. The average Break-Even for the type is in excess of 600 seats occupied.
BA loses money every time they fly the 380. It's over heavy,
BA loses money every time they fly the 380. It's over heavy,
Especially when NO ONE flies these with more than about 520 and the 388 is certified for 550 in a three class configuration.
I believe you are very wrong in such an assumption.
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It would make sense if they have. The average Break-Even for the type is in excess of 600 seats occupied.
BA loses money every time they fly the 380. It's over heavy, over-powered and needs a stretch to become economical.
BA loses money every time they fly the 380. It's over heavy, over-powered and needs a stretch to become economical.
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We paid a substantial sum for an independent evaluation on the type, including all cost and revenue sensitivities. Those operating the A380 will regret it in time, it's a dog of an airliner unless you ram it full of seats and fill it, just like the 340 family - which is why values have dropped through the floor.
it's a dog of an airliner unless you ram it full of seats and fill it, just like the 340 family - which is why values have dropped through the floor
That's fair comment re the A340, but you haven't provided any evidence that the comparison is valid for the A380, you're simply making an assertion.
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"We paid a substantial sum for an independent evaluation on the type"
suggest you ask for refund then - even Boeing admit it makes money on current passenger levels - just not as much as you'd make with a 707/727/737/747/757/767/777 or 787
suggest you ask for refund then - even Boeing admit it makes money on current passenger levels - just not as much as you'd make with a 707/727/737/747/757/767/777 or 787
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It would make sense if they have. The average Break-Even for the type is in excess of 600 seats occupied.
BA loses money every time they fly the 380. It's over heavy, over-powered and needs a stretch to become economical.
BA loses money every time they fly the 380. It's over heavy, over-powered and needs a stretch to become economical.
Muppet.
ROTFL, care to name who currently operates the A380 with over 600 seats.
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I think the point he was trying to make (albeit a moot one) was that you can't actually get enough passengers into an A380 to make a profit.
Oh I don't know without the terms of reference what was being measured and what other reference material researched.
The author, the bias and reason for report - can we really comment ?
However the facts that most are being operated with relatively high % of premium accommodation and on route networks where even economy tickets hold price with measured last minute fully flexible tickets (Little discounting) and this suggests yields are rather good and profitability more than adequate.
Its certain BA have considered this with their deployments so far - LAX/HKG/JNB and SIN.
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I've heard that BA are happy with the type from a commercial perspective. If it can get the loads (always a big if) it makes more cash than the 744. However, the general consensus is that the fleet is unlikely to make it past 18, and some reckon maybe even 12 will be the limit.
Sorry to state the bleeding obvious, but why would any airline invest such a huge amount in the project, if it wasn't going to make any money?
I know in America there are a lot of routes that are operated loss making for prestige/defensive purposes, but fortunately BA have avoided these traps by actually running their airline like a business.
I know in America there are a lot of routes that are operated loss making for prestige/defensive purposes, but fortunately BA have avoided these traps by actually running their airline like a business.
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Airbus must be laughing at how they fooled amateurs like, uh Singapore Airlines to launch it then, well buy more and newbies like Emirates who will go bust shortly as a result. Those legendary novices at Lufthansa will also be needing the assisitance of your independent analysis.
Btw don't group the "A340 family" up, the orginal A340 killed the MD11 and held it's own against the B777 for a while, the NG was beaten by a brilliant upgrade of the less than sterling B777-300 from Boeing. Best not to rewrite history.
Btw don't group the "A340 family" up, the orginal A340 killed the MD11 and held it's own against the B777 for a while, the NG was beaten by a brilliant upgrade of the less than sterling B777-300 from Boeing. Best not to rewrite history.