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Old 29th Dec 2016, 12:17
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Doesn't really matter about profit and loss with AA/BA as transatlantic routes form the JV for profit/loss sharing.


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Doesn't really matter about profit and loss with AA/BA as transatlantic routes form the JV for profit/loss sharing.


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It does as JV is route specific not a blanket arraignment. Don't believe MAN routes are part of it either. Outside of this it's general corporation.

That's what I have been lead to believe but open to correction.
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Old 29th Dec 2016, 12:25
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Winter 17 is what I'm hearing, on 2 of 3 of the AA routes, PHL not mentioned and no idea if AA will continue it or not. BA may even add a route or two AA don't currently serve. We'll see...official confirmation would be nice.
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Winter 17 is what I'm hearing, on 2 of 3 of the AA routes, PHL not mentioned and no idea if AA will continue it or not. BA may even add a route or two AA don't currently serve. We'll see...official confirmation would be nice.
Time frame sounds more realistic. Perhaps AA (PHL) want to keep that cargo contract mentioned on MAN a few times.
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Old 29th Dec 2016, 13:28
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The TATL JV between AA and BA covers all of Europe so it will include MAN.
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Old 29th Dec 2016, 14:15
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BACF w/e flights: In previous seasons these have been operated out of Scotland on behalf of Barrhead travel, from GLA, EDI, and last year from ABN. This year they have dropped ABN and some EDI routes, leaving GLA untouched. I suspect that they are responding to the rapid growth of Jet2, with more destinations and higher frequencies. I wonder whether BA will run the flights on their own account?
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Old 29th Dec 2016, 15:08
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The ABZ flights? No chance. EDI maybe, although the BA mainline IBZ run (I think they did from EDI) was as I recall not a success.
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Old 29th Dec 2016, 22:31
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Originally Posted by eggc
Winter 17 is what I'm hearing, on 2 of 3 of the AA routes, PHL not mentioned and no idea if AA will continue it or not. BA may even add a route or two AA don't currently serve. We'll see...official confirmation would be nice.
I assume AA would want continue to operate PHL-MAN on the basis that the route remains fairly successful.
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Old 30th Dec 2016, 08:23
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The E Jet bucket and spade are a no brainer and certain to make a return.
We have become semi-regulars on these from LCY, to Palma in particular, and an observation was made that the crew can often recognise their regulars to Edinburgh or Frankfurt on them as well. There does seem to be much Avios redemption up in Club (which is not really worthwhile on these flights as the whole aircraft is 2+2, there's no lounge at LCY, and a pretty decent catering provision back in Y).

Apart from the weekend shutdown, LCY has notable peaks and troughs itself during the working day which these flights can balance. On Mondays to Thursdays a number make an initial business destination rotation, and then there can be a round trip to The Med before getting in another two rotations to business points before the end of the day. Friday demand is different, the early morning business traffic is well down, but it picks up substantially after lunch, so the holiday flights then are 0700 departures. There's also balancing between the E170 and E190 fleet on different days. Whoever is devising the BACF schedules has a notably sharp understanding of the details of demand.
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Old 30th Dec 2016, 09:27
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I agree that BACF do flex their schedules quite acutely; in recent seasons there has been a Friday am charter from EDI before the pm peak. However they haven't adopted the quick turnaround times of the LCCs. The layover times between a charter and scheduled service often seem to be hours.
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Old 30th Dec 2016, 10:19
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in recent seasons there has been a Friday am charter from EDI before the pm peak
I have a photo of three BACF E190s lined up in echelon on the remote parking at Palma one Friday late morning, our schedule for LCY and two charters for GLA and EDI, all leaving at the same time.

The handling agent (Iberia) had checked the whole lot in at the same two desks, which led to chaotic queues right across the terminal.
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Old 28th Feb 2017, 07:34
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Interesting to note that IAG is looking at the A321LR for the whole group and we could see it introduced at BA, possibly to serve Africa and transatlantic from UK regional airports.
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Old 2nd Mar 2017, 11:01
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BA fake weather forecast?

BA235 LHR-DMR on Sunday 5th March cancelled due to "forecast high winds". I can't find any forecast to substantiate this claim. Max 18kts gust is the closest I can get on the 5 days!!

A new term - Fake Weather Forecast

Is BA using weather excuses to cancel low load flights?

Where can I find evidence that Heathrow PLC has issued the reduced flow instruction to airlines for Sunday?

Help much appreciated as arriving DME at 0420 is not an attractive alternative (understatement).
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Old 2nd Mar 2017, 11:28
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British Airways Mixed fleet cabin crew will be taking Industrial Action from tomorrow - Friday 3rd March for 7 days. Perhaps this is the reason for the cancellation of that flight and BA do not want to mention this reason ? Surely false claims for canxellations such as stating "weather" would get BA out of certain compensation legalities... But would also get them in to deep trouble if this is really not the case.
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Old 2nd Mar 2017, 11:36
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Thanks for your comments. Makes sense now as they refused any sort of compensation i.e. lounge passes, upgrades, by blaming the weather. Not much can be done other than take the alternative, claim the EU compensation and then never fly BA again.

If they'd said "industrial action" then that would have been truthful and slightly more acceptable but put them up as the reason.
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Old 2nd Mar 2017, 14:33
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Write to the Civil Aviation Authority about this.
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Old 2nd Mar 2017, 15:04
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Sounds very odd, LHR would only ask for cancellations the day before. How did you find out that it was due to "forecast high winds"?
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Old 2nd Mar 2017, 15:12
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Only repeated what was said when call made to attempt a better routing. "Calls are recorded for quality purposes". This is going to be interesting.......
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Old 2nd Mar 2017, 15:50
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Tweet this @britishairways publically but make sure to tag it #britishairways #fakenews or similar. The race to the bottom continues....
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Old 3rd Mar 2017, 14:31
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Noticed in the last week BAW252/3 the NAS flight, has been operated by 4 class 777's. Since it was upgauged from the 767 to the 777, is has from what ive seen been a 3 class bird. Is this flight selling really well up front, causing the changes or is it just a coincidental occurance due to fleet rotation?
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