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Correct re Lufthansa, the Frankfurt LH952/3 has a rest in January and February. This happens most years except the year BMI operated although LH actually operated LH952/3 and BMI the other three services.
SAS Stockholm will also rest in the same period and usually Monarch reduce frequencies as well but nothing known as yet for 2013/4. Ryanair are operating their full schedule at the present time.
So yes some airlines do reduce frequencies in this period.
Emirates
Emirates Planned May ? July 2014 Service Reductions as of 21SEP13 | Airline Route ? Worldwide Airline Route Updates
06.25 arrival in BHX for EK39 from 1/5/2014 for a couple of months during the DXB runway repairs but no reduction in frequency. A seven hour turnaround in BHX to boot.
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Correct re Lufthansa, the Frankfurt LH952/3 has a rest in January and February. This happens most years except the year BMI operated although LH actually operated LH952/3 and BMI the other three services.
SAS Stockholm will also rest in the same period and usually Monarch reduce frequencies as well but nothing known as yet for 2013/4. Ryanair are operating their full schedule at the present time.
So yes some airlines do reduce frequencies in this period.
Emirates
Emirates Planned May ? July 2014 Service Reductions as of 21SEP13 | Airline Route ? Worldwide Airline Route Updates
06.25 arrival in BHX for EK39 from 1/5/2014 for a couple of months during the DXB runway repairs but no reduction in frequency. A seven hour turnaround in BHX to boot.
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Thanks for the info. I forgot Baby were still operating last aug to the Spanish routes.
CO in the Evening Mail.
A positive marketing campaign is good to NY especially with the run up to Christmas. With the loads around 90%, and if demand increases then 10 flights a week could be on the cards? Or a unit upgrade to 767? Opens the door to more cargo then. Last year there were fears they may pull out like they did at BRS so we are heading in the right direction.
Monarch 2014.
There were rumours around a few months ago that MON were going to base 14 units at BHX for next summer? If so, wouldn't these be on sale by now? Their new hangar is going to be v busy I hear when it opens.
CO in the Evening Mail.
A positive marketing campaign is good to NY especially with the run up to Christmas. With the loads around 90%, and if demand increases then 10 flights a week could be on the cards? Or a unit upgrade to 767? Opens the door to more cargo then. Last year there were fears they may pull out like they did at BRS so we are heading in the right direction.
Monarch 2014.
There were rumours around a few months ago that MON were going to base 14 units at BHX for next summer? If so, wouldn't these be on sale by now? Their new hangar is going to be v busy I hear when it opens.
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remind us where CO would get a spare 767 from ?
Seriously though, as the B788s arrive, some of the B763 are being freed up and retired.
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remind us where CO would get a spare 767 from ?
I never said where they would get it from! They and UA have a large enough fleet across a huge network. I was just exploring the possibility of an upgraded unit if the demand and business increases. If a route is profitable enough an airline can quite easily find a spare or chop a poor route if required.
UA have 24 763s and CO have 16 764s in their fleets.
remind us where CO would get a spare 767 from ?
I never said where they would get it from! They and UA have a large enough fleet across a huge network. I was just exploring the possibility of an upgraded unit if the demand and business increases. If a route is profitable enough an airline can quite easily find a spare or chop a poor route if required.
UA have 24 763s and CO have 16 764s in their fleets.
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VC10 @ BHX
For anyone who may be interested there will be a final fly past of an RAF VC10
& BHX tomorrow (25/09/13).It is due between 1045 &. 1115.
The aircraft will be ferrying from Brize Norton to it's eventual final resting place @ Bruntingthorpe.
VC10 RIP
& BHX tomorrow (25/09/13).It is due between 1045 &. 1115.
The aircraft will be ferrying from Brize Norton to it's eventual final resting place @ Bruntingthorpe.
VC10 RIP
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UA 757/767.
Does anyone else think it strange that the airline fraternity have yet to ask the aircraft manufacturers to submit plans for a replacement for the 757.
AAL are replacing their 767-200s with A321s on transcontinental routes.I'm sure most will remember that these 767s were regular visitors to the UK including BHX ( AA 23/4)back in the day.
There is quite a big difference in capacity and range with the current crop of a/c available compared to the 757/767-200.
USAir,DAL,AAL and UAL all use 757s on various services from the USA to northern Europe and all have or still use 767-200s.That is a lot of aircraft that will need to be replaced over the next few years.
I'm sure someone will correct me but I am really not sure what airlines will use when these venerable Boeings are phased out.Please discuss!!!
AAL are replacing their 767-200s with A321s on transcontinental routes.I'm sure most will remember that these 767s were regular visitors to the UK including BHX ( AA 23/4)back in the day.
There is quite a big difference in capacity and range with the current crop of a/c available compared to the 757/767-200.
USAir,DAL,AAL and UAL all use 757s on various services from the USA to northern Europe and all have or still use 767-200s.That is a lot of aircraft that will need to be replaced over the next few years.
I'm sure someone will correct me but I am really not sure what airlines will use when these venerable Boeings are phased out.Please discuss!!!
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Well the A321neo and 737MAX will offer the range American carriers need to fly trans-con and these days it seems to be a case of frequency over capacity - for exmaple AA are upping LAX-JFK to x10 daily.
Sadly the 757's are a niche aircraft these days and there are probably only a handful of flights worldwide where the 757's range and capacity is needed. BHX-EWR is one of them but if their recent performances continue and given the better economics one would assume that a correctly configured 787 would be the ideal replacement.
Sadly the 757's are a niche aircraft these days and there are probably only a handful of flights worldwide where the 757's range and capacity is needed. BHX-EWR is one of them but if their recent performances continue and given the better economics one would assume that a correctly configured 787 would be the ideal replacement.
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I'm sure someone will correct me but I am really not sure what airlines will use when these venerable Boeings are phased out.Please discuss!!!
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A replacement for B757's expected in service from 2025.
The A321 can do the majority of the B757's routes for much less cost, the B737-800/900/ERs even more so, at the upper end the B787-8 is a much more capable aeroplane. Hence there's not much of a gap to squeeze in the middle, only United and Icelandair will be flying B757s across the pond regularly in the next few years. Delta withdrew (most if not all of them are now US domestic / Americas) and American are currently in the process of doing so. There's a few randoms like Aer Lingus using some young B757s but there's not enough of a market for an all new aircraft, far from it.
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There is????? Do tell, mainly as by then the youngest B757 will be about 25 years old.
The A321 can do the majority of the B757's routes for much less cost, the B737-800/900/ERs even more so, at the upper end the B787-8 is a much more capable aeroplane. Hence there's not much of a gap to squeeze in the middle, only United and Icelandair will be flying B757s across the pond regularly in the next few years. Delta withdrew (most if not all of them are now US domestic / Americas) and American are currently in the process of doing so. There's a few randoms like Aer Lingus using some young B757s but there's not enough of a market for an all new aircraft, far from it.
The A321 can do the majority of the B757's routes for much less cost, the B737-800/900/ERs even more so, at the upper end the B787-8 is a much more capable aeroplane. Hence there's not much of a gap to squeeze in the middle, only United and Icelandair will be flying B757s across the pond regularly in the next few years. Delta withdrew (most if not all of them are now US domestic / Americas) and American are currently in the process of doing so. There's a few randoms like Aer Lingus using some young B757s but there's not enough of a market for an all new aircraft, far from it.
Boeing were talking about it early in 2012, carriers like US Airways are not happy with the 321NEO as it lacks range form PHL to Europe while there SH fleet largely consists of Airbus so can't see them going for Boeing MAX.
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Can anyone confirm that just before COA took delivery of its' first 737-900s,and before the merger with UAL,there was some talk of COA using the ER version of the aircraft on some Transatlantic routes.
Also,is there much range difference on the new MAX version?
Could this be the closest current aircraft type to the 757??
Also,is there much range difference on the new MAX version?
Could this be the closest current aircraft type to the 757??
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Access to BHX and MAN
I have come a little late to the discussion about reaching different airports from Staffordshire, but regularly travel to B'ham and Manchester airports from Shropshire.
The discussion seemed very narrow as it only concerned access by car; one of BHX's great strengths is its rail access which I think is not promoted nearly enough.
A quick look at trainline.com suggests that Stoke has an hourly direct train to BHX taking from 1hr 6 mins and an hourly train to MAN with a change at Crewe taking 1hr 2 mins. Heathrow? About 3-4 hrs with a couple of changes and the underground.
Going by train eliminates worries about M6 traffic and car parking charges plus you stay dry and warm transferring to the terminal.
The train option is not valid throughout the 24 hrs, but that's part of the skill of planning your travel!
The discussion seemed very narrow as it only concerned access by car; one of BHX's great strengths is its rail access which I think is not promoted nearly enough.
A quick look at trainline.com suggests that Stoke has an hourly direct train to BHX taking from 1hr 6 mins and an hourly train to MAN with a change at Crewe taking 1hr 2 mins. Heathrow? About 3-4 hrs with a couple of changes and the underground.
Going by train eliminates worries about M6 traffic and car parking charges plus you stay dry and warm transferring to the terminal.
The train option is not valid throughout the 24 hrs, but that's part of the skill of planning your travel!
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I think one of the telling points of how easy the travel is from the midlands to Manchester despite these supposed 7 hour journeys and constant roadworks, is the fact when Stoke City were playing European football, all of their team/fan charters used Manchester.
That to me says all of those airlines/teams at the time found the one up north easier to use.....
That to me says all of those airlines/teams at the time found the one up north easier to use.....
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is the fact when Stoke City were playing European football, all of their team/fan charters used Manchester.
Changing the subject slightly , does anybody know the parking stand allocated for the Air Blue A340 service that starts this Saturday? I had heard it 'maybe' parking Stand 8C on the former eurohub.
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I think one of the telling points of how easy the travel is from the midlands to Manchester despite these supposed 7 hour journeys and constant roadworks, is the fact when Stoke City were playing European football, all of their team/fan charters used Manchester.
That to me says all of those airlines/teams at the time found the one up north easier to use.....
That to me says all of those airlines/teams at the time found the one up north easier to use.....
Air Blue confirmed going to T2 'Eurohub' parking on stand 8C
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Should be fun in T2 then.