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Planeaddict 28th Jan 2013 13:05

BIRMINGHAM - 6
 
Kicking off the new thread with this article:

http://www.birminghampost.net/birmin...#ixzz2JCwrWsy2

insuindi 28th Jan 2013 14:13

OLT has been grounded, which means that LX will need to find an alternative for the use of their F100s on ZRH-BHX. In MAN the schedule has been updated to reflect LX mainline now operating all flights MAN-ZRH, the BHX schedule so far has seen only minor updates for the immediate future - Swiss European and what looks like cancellation of one rotation on Thursday.

Planeaddict 28th Jan 2013 16:46

Nigel

I wouldn't say it has to be AA operating the route - maybe Delta or United even?

This was mentioned in the article:


There’s a reception in Chicago in February where we are going to introduce Birmingham Airport to local business leaders and politicians to highlight the need for that air link again.

chinapattern 28th Jan 2013 18:09

planeaddict;

Perhaps if you'd done a little research before posting you'd know that Delta do not have a hub at ORD; therefore there is less than zero chance of them flying the route. :ugh:

Planeaddict 28th Jan 2013 18:12


Perhaps if you'd done a little research before posting you'd know that Delta do not have a hub at ORD; therefore there is less than zero chance of them flying the route. :ugh:
United do have a hub at ORD.

LAX_LHR 28th Jan 2013 18:21

Hi Nigel.

Yes the route is a B757 for winter, as the B767 is needed for more lucrative South American routes, but changes back to a B767 on 5th June. It is available to view on the AA website.


United do have a hub at ORD
But DELTA do not which is what chinapattern said, he didn't say United didn't.

chinapattern 28th Jan 2013 18:25


United do have a hub at ORD.
Correct, but the viability of UA launching ORD-BHX has already been debated at length before so no point going over it again.

Fairdealfrank 28th Jan 2013 18:44

BHX-ORD
 
Good idea to link up the two "second cities" of each country.

Hope it can be successful!

ATNotts 28th Jan 2013 18:53

Oh no, not again!!
 
Sorry, but 11 posts in and we're back on the same treadmill of spotterish wishlists of routes and carriers that in the current economic climate stand some between little and absolutely no chance whatsoever of coming to fruition.

Will we get to post 20 before questions relating to Qatar, Toronto and A380s rear their ugly heads?

Personally I doubt it!!

chinapattern 28th Jan 2013 18:56


Will we get to post 20 before questions relating to Qatar, Toronto and A380s rear their ugly heads?
What are the chances of Qatar fly DOH-BHX-YYZ with the A380?

Sorry, couldn't resist!

crewmeal 28th Jan 2013 19:28


Sorry, but 11 posts in and we're back on the same treadmill of spotterish wishlists of routes and carriers that in the current economic climate stand some between little and absolutely no chance whatsoever of coming to fruition.
No wonder the mods closed BHX-5

Now the plans for HS2 have been revealed and LHR is not on the list, maybe it will be beneficial for BHX after all. Possibility of one way traffic maybe? A lot will depend on routes in 13 years for now, and not even paineaddict can look into his crystal ball.:rolleyes:

insuindi 28th Jan 2013 20:02

Monarch MUC
 
Monarch has cancelled a fair number of further frequencies on BHX-MUC over the next few weeks.

(Was on LH's morning flight MUC-BHX today, near 100% despite the only slightly later Monarch A320/1).

CVTDog 28th Jan 2013 20:29

BHX - MUC
 
Was on the LH flight back from Munich on Friday night. Had us up and away early - as there was some threats to the runway with the possible heavy snowfall that thankfully never materialised.

Nice aircraft those E95's first time I have had the opportunity to fly on one.

BHX security was a disappointment again, cant understand why they cant leave the E-gates on, when I asked the security chap why they were not in use he said its because they only had three staff on. So why not switch the gates on and take the burden of the manual checkers - very confusing :ugh:

GayFriendly 28th Jan 2013 22:17


Sorry, but 11 posts in and we're back on the same treadmill of spotterish wishlists of routes and carriers that in the current economic climate stand some between little and absolutely no chance whatsoever of coming to fruition.
Well said that man!! BHX, for the foreseeable future at least will only ever be home to a few niche long haul services, primarily because it is stuck between LHR and MAN and does not appear to be able to attract sufficient and more importantly consistent demand to fill the front end with high yielding F & J class travellers - if EK can't do it I doubt anyone else can right now. So get over it and if you are that desperate to see a QR 330 or a flight to YYZ or ORD there are plenty of them down at LHR to go gawp at.

Back to the real world and summer '13 is shaping up quite well on the scheduled side after a slow start, with a couple of legacy carriers cautiously upping capacity. Here's a review to summarise recent news.

AF are going to start using 321's on certain rotations
LX mainline equipment reappears on the morning rotation (sadly it does not seem the midday flight is going to come back)
SK up to 6 a week on ARN and introducing 320 on morning CPH rotations in May
ZB new routes to GIB, SPU and BOD plus continuation of FNC, SSH. MUC it seems is going
BE re-introducing French summer routes BES, LRH, EGC, PGF and AVN(reduced frequency on most routes though compared to 2012)
BE to LYS
BM new base and flights to GOT, TLS and LYS - who will win, BM or BE?
FR to PGF - at the expense of BUD?
SN I heard was back to all AR1 ops at one stage but think this has changed again with VO DH8 still being used on some rotations, need to check
EZY continuing with BFS - it would be so nice to see some more of these guys, good to see they have a sales desk now and is it me or their check in area looks very big for a max of four flights a day, here's hoping.....

I would imagine BHX will start to see at some point in the year the new LH loco taking over TXL and DUS although it all seems to have gone quiet on that front. Perhaps that will be 2014?

I can't think of any other major new route announcements at this stage (or even any rumoured) but you never know.....

Navpi 29th Jan 2013 07:38

here here.....the thread has become a spotters paradise of late.

PS Hanging on to the second city bit is also a tad lame and tedious, airlines have already decided that one and its either LHR or MAN.... makes brummies sound desparate like Stan Colleymore when he describes "second City derbies" and tries to ham them up.....

Eg Villa V WBA etc ....... too right !

hammerb32 29th Jan 2013 08:23

Navpi - not sure this is the right place for discussion around which is Englands 2nd city ,the size or success of the airport is not a factor that's ever going to be that relevant.

chinapattern 29th Jan 2013 08:41

RE: Summer 13
 
Also TK upping to x10 weekly flights.

Regarding MON; wouldn't be too surprised if they dropped MUC, it struck me as an odd route for them when it was first announced.

ATNotts 29th Jan 2013 09:17

Air France - New Loco - "Hop"
 
Read on ARD (German TV) text this morning that AF is setting up a new low cost carrier the are calling Hop to operate umpteen European services. Apparently it comes about by merging Britair, Regional and another I can't remember.

It looks like a copy of the LH strategy with Germanwings (can't remember now what they are going to be called either!), but it will be interesting to see if the strategy is to hive off ops from CDG to places which aren't London; or to develop routes from the French regions, such as LYS and TLS, to places like BHX.

I would say if the latter is the strategy, LYS-BHX is quite likely as it puts the knife into two non French (UK) airlines already scrapping on the route.

insuindi 29th Jan 2013 10:54

Air France / Hop!

Hop! seems similar to the Germanwings (they will keep that name, but grow and include the Bombardier AC op by Eurowings) - but if you look at it in detail, they are actually supposed to feed in CDG and ORY, whilst routes strong on yield from the regions are to remain with AF mainline....

According to this route map, BHX is not touched by the changes for now . http://corporate.airfrance.com/fileadmin...p_press_kit.pdf

I would be surprised to see LYS-BHX by Hop!, more likely a codeshare with BE.

insuindi 29th Jan 2013 10:56

PS: Regarding Germanwings on TXL and DUS: GErmanwings will take over those operations incrementally, they started switching the HAM routes to Germanwings (even though BHX is still Eurowings for LH rather than Germanwings), DUS is the last base to be swtiched somewhen during 2014.


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