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Old 25th Apr 2014, 15:19
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Thomson long haul

Yes, your MBJ will be on a 787 from Bhx. It's planned to take over mid July this year.
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Oceanhawk,

Thats interesting, if 767s are staying until 2018 and they are TOM ones not Euro TUI. I am therefore assuming that the UK will get the 2 additional TUI 787s on order.

Otherwise there would surely be a cut to TOM long haul in 2018 when the 767s leave.

TOM used to do 2 flights from BHX to Orlando, until they took the strange decision to open up EMA as a long haul base and our 2nd flight was presumably lost to them.
Think EMA has been scaled back a bit in 2015 so I hope BHX benefits in 2016.

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Old 25th Apr 2014, 18:01
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I am therefore assuming that the UK will get the 2 additional TUI 787s on order.
Two scheduled in the UK in July.
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Yes know that Im on one from BHX late summer.

They have 2 additional ones ordered in Nov 13.. Just found out and they are due in 2016.

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TOM used to do 2 flights from BHX to Orlando, until they took the strange decision to open up EMA as a long haul base and our 2nd flight was presumably lost to them.
Think EMA has been scaled back a bit in 2015 so I hope BHX benefits in 2016.


Well just read this post, is there a reason why EMA should not have a orlando flight ?

The Derby, notts, Leics area is quite a large area and we also like to go long haul as well, and we don't to be going down the A38 to BHX all the time.

EMA is a fast growing airport with full flights. Mexico is a very full packed out service from EMA too.
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Old 25th Apr 2014, 19:00
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I think the point being made is that for whatever reason TOM decided to split the midland long haul programme between BHX and EMA unlike further north where the focus is solely on MAN rather than splitting it up and offering long haul flights from say LBA or DSA.
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TOM are getting G-TUIG and G-TUIH to replace the 767s once the three former Britannia birds leave the fleet. Also worth noting the 787's are owned by TUI so they will rotate around all the airlines to meet demand.
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Mike16.

China Pattern has it as I said it...

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Old 28th Apr 2014, 14:25
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Thomson summer 2015

Conformation from Thomson and the airport about the summer 2015 charter flight increases (link below), they forgot to add there is also a new Cancun flight which will operate twice weekly with 787 during Summer 2015. Sal is not new just a re-introduction. Good news

Thomson and First Choice Increase Capacity and Introduce Five New Routes From Birmingham Airport - Birmingham Airport

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Old 28th Apr 2014, 17:21
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Not sure if the have done this in previous years also, but during July and August Swiss is down to 12/7, with one rotation only on 6 & 7. I hope they won't reduce the ZRH service much further.
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Old 28th Apr 2014, 18:12
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Thomson Summer 2015

I certainly do not wish to rain on your parade Daza, Agadir and Chania maybe new for TOM but both have been operated from BHX before. Agadir was a number of years ago now - I can't remember who operated it though! Djerba and Porto Santo are definitely brand new for BHX


Whilst this is very good news on the short haul IT front, it is worrying that there appears to be no increase in long haul IT (still 4 x weekly departures in 2015, including the additional Cancun), despite the runway extension - no sign of Cuba, the Dom Rep, Tobago, Las Vegas....even more worryingly, I think BHX will have to rely solely on TOM for any new long haul IT routes as TCX seem to be focusing exclusively on developing a long haul hub at MAN in cooperation with BE.


Ending on a glass half full note however, at least we do still have TOM long haul though unlike our friends down at BRS.
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Old 28th Apr 2014, 21:07
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Thomson S15

A quick look at the schedule and it appears that 7 aircraft are required on some days, including the long-haul B787

A welcome return from Air Europa B737-800s from Palma and Nouvelair A320s from Enfidha, both on Wednesday mornings for Thomson
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Old 28th Apr 2014, 21:12
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Gayfriendly.

With what would airlines use for extra long hauls from BHX.All the planes are fully utilised.

Best hope, 2016, when TUI get 2 further 787s if them come to the UK.

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Old 28th Apr 2014, 21:14
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JON01.

Yes if they stick, sadly BHX recent history shows such outsourcing is often chopped and amalgamated with TOM/TCX/MON flts.

Fingers crossed it doesn't happen this time.

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Old 28th Apr 2014, 21:41
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Daza

Gay friendly wrote
Agadir was a number of years ago now - I can't remember who operated it
I do seem to remember Thomson trying Agadir before, was it was withdrawn before its operating period?
I think Royal Air Maroc used to operate Tangier with a 737 very late Saturday night many years ago for Inspirations/Falcon I think?
Remember guys keep smiling what other airports are getting so many new routes and increases on existing routes from Thomson?
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Remember guys keep smiling what other airports are getting so many new routes and increases on existing routes from Thomson?/
Yes i guess so . But you have to think for what reason? These days people choosing IT packages to the med ( not so much LH) are on the decline because it is easier and sometimes more convenient to tailor your own flights/accomodation etc. As BHX is so totally underserved by loco's you can see why thomson have seen the niche .
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Flybe Winter 2014/5

More good news Flybe Florence, Bordeaux, Toulouse and Cologne continue in Winter 2014/5 as do the increased Hannover and Stuttgart.
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Old 29th Apr 2014, 15:55
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Good news for BHX although I'm surprised to not see ALC operate year round!
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And Bordeaux actually increases to 5 a week !
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Old 29th Apr 2014, 17:22
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Good news for BHX although I'm surprised to not see ALC operate year round!
I'm not! At the risk of being ageist, Alicante (and principally Benidorm) as a winter destination is mainly for the older generation on long stay holidays getting away from the UK winter.

These people are IT fodder, rather than being independent travellers. Now Palma, that's a different kettle of fish - and can be marketed as a city / short break destination.

Are FlyBe continuing PMI into the Winter?
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