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ZB does not resume it flights from BHX to SPU, were the loads or yields so bad? Can not believe that; they could also first can reduce the flights from 3x to once per week?!
How come the figures for BHX were not included in the CAA's provisional list for October? Anyone know.
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BHX late with the stats...
Clearly pax for October will appear at some stage and, hopefully, will maintain the healthy increase as witnessed throughout the summer months.
However, with plenty of activity on the Elmdon site and seemingly an endless stream of Antonovs visiting, does anyone have any info on BHX's performance cargo-wise. Are figures on the up here also?
However, with plenty of activity on the Elmdon site and seemingly an endless stream of Antonovs visiting, does anyone have any info on BHX's performance cargo-wise. Are figures on the up here also?
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Turkish Airlines
Quite a few upgrades to A321s in the run up to Christmas plus the A330 scheduled for the 19th and possibly the 21st. I'd be amazed if they don't go double daily next year.
Monty Gordo asked about freight figures - this link has just been posted on the BOH thread. Interestingly, BHX behind ABZ and NCL?!
http://http://www.caa.co.uk/docs/80/..._Nat_of_Op.pdf
http://http://www.caa.co.uk/docs/80/..._Nat_of_Op.pdf
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Thanks for the link. I must admit that i was a little surprised at how BHX did compare against other airports ie ABZ and NCL. And also the gulf between BHX and MAN. Unfortunately the link does not show % movements month on month so it is difficult to see whether cargo handling at the airport is on a rising curve.
Cargo Figures
Thanks for the link. I must admit that i was a little surprised at how BHX did compare against other airports ie ABZ and NCL. And also the gulf between BHX and MAN. Unfortunately the link does not show % movements month on month so it is difficult to see whether cargo handling at the airport is on a rising curve.
Because of the lunacy of "Just in Time" stocking, so beloved of accountants and the vehicle industry in general, it is perfectly possible that the AN12s and AN26s are carrying hundreds rather than thousands of kilos of cargo - just enough to keep a line running pending delivery of parts by truck.
Also, tonnage is a very blunt instrument with which to measure cargo. As many will be aware air cargo is often bulky, so whilst the weight might by low, the aircraft could be packed solid.
As Monty Gordo suggested overall cargo movements together with tonnage would perhaps provide a more accurate picture.
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Monarch/Avro/Cosmos/Thomson/Dreamliner S15
Things are looking a bit better now
Ibiza has been added
There are 9 based aircraft required on some days, including Sunday where a second Dalaman has been added with an early morning departure
Kefalonia is now bookable on a Saturday using a Manchester based Small Planet aircraft
Also, the Sunday morning TUIfly Germany B738 to Palma appears to have been replaced with a based TOM aircraft, which I believe is on the Dreamliner. The B787 looks to be based all week, with a few short haul flights in between the long haul programme
Things are looking a bit better now
Ibiza has been added
There are 9 based aircraft required on some days, including Sunday where a second Dalaman has been added with an early morning departure
Kefalonia is now bookable on a Saturday using a Manchester based Small Planet aircraft
Also, the Sunday morning TUIfly Germany B738 to Palma appears to have been replaced with a based TOM aircraft, which I believe is on the Dreamliner. The B787 looks to be based all week, with a few short haul flights in between the long haul programme
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Re "Also, the Sunday morning TUIfly Germany B738 to Palma appears to have been replaced with a based TOM aircraft"
Yes the Air Europas, Thomson were to use from BHX too have also disappeared.
Nigel
Re "Also, the Sunday morning TUIfly Germany B738 to Palma appears to have been replaced with a based TOM aircraft"
Yes the Air Europas, Thomson were to use from BHX too have also disappeared.
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Winter 2014/5 & Summer 2014
jon01
I noticed that the Thomson Holidays Palma on Sunday has changed to Thomson from TUI but it seemed to me it has replaced the Sunday Dubrovnik. I assume you have been given the heads-up as the booking engine usually makes reference to the 787 and it doesn't at present.
Monarch
Certainly some days have 9 scheduled but the majority is 8 and it is difficult to believe it will up up back at 9. Also the timetable and booking engine don't match on certain flights with two Sunday Malaga's in the morning per the timetable but the booking engine shows one in the afternoon.
The Cosmos schedule is just as baffling with as you say a Saturday Manchester based EFL yet a couple of BHX based flights in the week.
flybe
Very volatile schedule with Edinburgh going 8 daily on a Monday in December, Berlin daily, a 5th Amsterdam on a Thursday and 4th Sunday flight. The New Year cuts are now in the booking engine with Stuttgart going down to daily, with one frequency cut from Glasgow, Edinburgh and Belfast Tuesday-Thursday, Cologne, Florence and Inverness all see a flight cut on a Wednesday.
chinapattern - Turkish
The flight on 21/12 per the seat-map is showing as the A333 so quite an increase and yes an incredible amount of A321's to boot.
Pete
I noticed that the Thomson Holidays Palma on Sunday has changed to Thomson from TUI but it seemed to me it has replaced the Sunday Dubrovnik. I assume you have been given the heads-up as the booking engine usually makes reference to the 787 and it doesn't at present.
Monarch
Certainly some days have 9 scheduled but the majority is 8 and it is difficult to believe it will up up back at 9. Also the timetable and booking engine don't match on certain flights with two Sunday Malaga's in the morning per the timetable but the booking engine shows one in the afternoon.
The Cosmos schedule is just as baffling with as you say a Saturday Manchester based EFL yet a couple of BHX based flights in the week.
flybe
Very volatile schedule with Edinburgh going 8 daily on a Monday in December, Berlin daily, a 5th Amsterdam on a Thursday and 4th Sunday flight. The New Year cuts are now in the booking engine with Stuttgart going down to daily, with one frequency cut from Glasgow, Edinburgh and Belfast Tuesday-Thursday, Cologne, Florence and Inverness all see a flight cut on a Wednesday.
chinapattern - Turkish
The flight on 21/12 per the seat-map is showing as the A333 so quite an increase and yes an incredible amount of A321's to boot.
Pete
Because of the lunacy of "Just in Time" stocking, so beloved of accountants and the vehicle industry in general, it is perfectly possible that the AN12s and AN26s are carrying hundreds rather than thousands of kilos of cargo - just enough to keep a line running pending delivery of parts by truck.
cheaper than shutting down a production line
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On the subject of freight, there was a rumour 12months or so again of a new Cargo carrier starting long haul flights via BHX (if I remember correctly, it was a Far Eastern carrier using B777F via AMS/FRA). I'm guesing this was just a rumour and nothing ever came of it unless its still in the pipeline?
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Far East cargo route.
Thanks FC, you raise, or should i say, remind us of a rumour from about 12 months ago. I would not be surprised if it was a rumour based on a good deal of fact as trade between the West Midlands conurbation and the Far East becomes increasingly important.
Just drawing out two of our iconic marques, Jaguar and Land Rover, must raise the possibility. And with the exponential development of both, and other developing companies, who knows...
Just drawing out two of our iconic marques, Jaguar and Land Rover, must raise the possibility. And with the exponential development of both, and other developing companies, who knows...
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Freight and AI/A3
Freight ops (at least at night-time) are extremely restricted at Birmingham, due to strict night noise abatement rules. Birmingham Airport is surrounded by housing on three sides. Remember East Mids is not far, surrounded by open countryside and with lots of space for aprons and hangers available, East Midlands is the Midlands freight hub.
Great news for AI and Aegean. The latter will operate a full UK Summer time season this coming summer. The first flight bookable is Sunday 29th March 2015.
Great news for AI and Aegean. The latter will operate a full UK Summer time season this coming summer. The first flight bookable is Sunday 29th March 2015.