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Where does it say EK have withdrawn First Class? Their own booking engine has it showing on the morning flight from August through to December. Anything (F, J or Y) beyond 20 December cannot be booked on the EK website. Maybe we should all be panicking that we can't book economy or business so it must have been withdrawn. 
BTW it's only 8 F seats on a 77W, not 12.
Looks like EK will have to continue paying for my chauffeur drive cars to & from that more northerly airport we're not allowed to talk about. I sometimes fly EK first and if in business I hate the seats on the 77W so fly on the 388.
BTW it's only 8 F seats on a 77W, not 12.
Looks like EK will have to continue paying for my chauffeur drive cars to & from that more northerly airport we're not allowed to talk about. I sometimes fly EK first and if in business I hate the seats on the 77W so fly on the 388.
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Appears the last 3 Class flight according to the GDS is on the 31th December 2015, with the flight on the 1st Jan 2016 being operated by a two class service.
31DEC THU BHX/Z DXB/‡4
1EK42 F2 A2 J4 C4 I4 O7 P0 BHXDXB 820A 710P DCA /E
Y7 E7 R7 W7 M7 B7 U7 K7 H7 Q7 L7 T7 V7 X7
2EK40 J4 C4 I4 O7 P0 Y7 E7 BHXDXB 115P 1230A‡1 DCA /E
R7 W7 M7 B7 U7 K7 H7 Q7 L7 T7 V7 X7
3EK38 J4 C4 I4 O7 P0 Y7 E7 BHXDXB 830P 715A‡1 DCA /E
R7 W7 M7 B7 U7 K7 H7 Q7 L7 T7 V7 X7
31DEC THU BHX/Z DXB/‡4
1EK42 F2 A2 J4 C4 I4 O7 P0 BHXDXB 820A 710P DCA /E
Y7 E7 R7 W7 M7 B7 U7 K7 H7 Q7 L7 T7 V7 X7
2EK40 J4 C4 I4 O7 P0 Y7 E7 BHXDXB 115P 1230A‡1 DCA /E
R7 W7 M7 B7 U7 K7 H7 Q7 L7 T7 V7 X7
3EK38 J4 C4 I4 O7 P0 Y7 E7 BHXDXB 830P 715A‡1 DCA /E
R7 W7 M7 B7 U7 K7 H7 Q7 L7 T7 V7 X7
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Airports Commission’s Research on Effect of Runway Expansion on UK Regions Could be F
Whilst the Airports Commission is mandated with taking a “UK-wide perspective”, new analysis has questioned whether it has properly investigated the potential economic effect on the country’s regions of the shortlisted runway options.
A study by economic analysts Oxera, commissioned by Birmingham Airport, says the methodology used by PwC on behalf of the Airports Commission could hide winners and losers in UK regions, and underplays the negative effect that Heathrow expansion could have on some UK regions.
Oxera explains that this is because, rather than modelling what could happen to the Midlands and other UK regions under the Heathrow and Gatwick scenarios, PwC split the UK into three large blocks: London & the South East, the Rest of England, and the Rest of the UK.
The Oxera analysis says that: “A more relevant question for analysis which could have been asked by the Airports Commission and PwC is where the national losses and gains are accrued and how they are distributed.” Oxera conclude that that the most intuitive deduction about economic impacts, taking the Airports Commission’s traffic forecast as given, is that Heathrow expansion would be more likely to exacerbate rather than mitigate regional imbalances, by drawing more business into the London area.
These questions have been raised a week before The Airports Commission runway expansion consultation closes, and on the day that Birmingham Airport Chief Executive Paul Kehoe and Gatwick Airport Chief Executive Stewart Wingate are addressing businesses in the Midlands on the choice facing the country.
Paul Kehoe said: “Birmingham Airport had its busiest year ever in 2014 which shows that passengers and businesses want to fly direct. With our region attracting over a quarter of the UK's foreign direct investment, we are clear that the answer is a network of national long-haul airports, plugging all regions into global growth opportunities, not an even larger hub at Heathrow which would draw more business into an already overheated South East.”
“Oxera’s analysis raises concerns that the positive relationships between airports outside the South East and their regional business communities have not been properly valued by the Airports Commission.”
“Whilst Heathrow is essential and must remain a world class airport for the UK and our region, for the Midlands to grow, Heathrow must become complementary to Birmingham Airport. More capacity at Heathrow would limit our region's ambitions. We expect Dubai to overtake Dublin as our busiest route this year, which shows that business travellers are voting with their feet and don’t want to put all our eggs in one basket.”
Jerry Blackett, Chief Executive of the Greater Birmingham Chambers of Commerce said: “Our region has a larger trade surplus with North America than any other in the UK, and is the only region to have a positive balance of trade with China. This is down to the strength of our financial services, manufacturing and engineering sectors and more, all of which are supported by our long-haul connectivity to markets around the world. The right decision for our region is the one that allows more businesses to fly direct, not one that could draw more business to Heathrow and the South East.”
Stewart Wingate, London Gatwick CEO said: “Competition between the UK's airports is essential for delivering choice for passengers, businesses and investors across the country. By expanding Gatwick we can harness the strength of the country's network of great airports, delivering new South East capacity and supporting the growth of connectivity across the UK.”
The Midlands contributes more than £178 billion to the economy, including 16 percent of all UK exports, and Birmingham has recently been names as the UK’s most investible city. A letter from nine regional MPs, Birmingham City Council leader Sir Albert Bore and Midlands business leaders and published in December raised concerns that Heathrow growth could negatively impact the region, and asserted that: “The UK needs new competition and a network of airports to boost growth, drive down costs and improve value, not expansion of Heathrow.”
Birmingham Airport handled 9,707,449 passengers in 2014; an increase of 6.5% compared to 2013, including a 7.2% in long-haul. It commissioned the research as it is concerned that growth at Heathrow could negatively impact the space Birmingham has to grow its own long-haul and business flight offering, which it says is crucial for the economy of the Midlands.
A study by economic analysts Oxera, commissioned by Birmingham Airport, says the methodology used by PwC on behalf of the Airports Commission could hide winners and losers in UK regions, and underplays the negative effect that Heathrow expansion could have on some UK regions.
Oxera explains that this is because, rather than modelling what could happen to the Midlands and other UK regions under the Heathrow and Gatwick scenarios, PwC split the UK into three large blocks: London & the South East, the Rest of England, and the Rest of the UK.
The Oxera analysis says that: “A more relevant question for analysis which could have been asked by the Airports Commission and PwC is where the national losses and gains are accrued and how they are distributed.” Oxera conclude that that the most intuitive deduction about economic impacts, taking the Airports Commission’s traffic forecast as given, is that Heathrow expansion would be more likely to exacerbate rather than mitigate regional imbalances, by drawing more business into the London area.
These questions have been raised a week before The Airports Commission runway expansion consultation closes, and on the day that Birmingham Airport Chief Executive Paul Kehoe and Gatwick Airport Chief Executive Stewart Wingate are addressing businesses in the Midlands on the choice facing the country.
Paul Kehoe said: “Birmingham Airport had its busiest year ever in 2014 which shows that passengers and businesses want to fly direct. With our region attracting over a quarter of the UK's foreign direct investment, we are clear that the answer is a network of national long-haul airports, plugging all regions into global growth opportunities, not an even larger hub at Heathrow which would draw more business into an already overheated South East.”
“Oxera’s analysis raises concerns that the positive relationships between airports outside the South East and their regional business communities have not been properly valued by the Airports Commission.”
“Whilst Heathrow is essential and must remain a world class airport for the UK and our region, for the Midlands to grow, Heathrow must become complementary to Birmingham Airport. More capacity at Heathrow would limit our region's ambitions. We expect Dubai to overtake Dublin as our busiest route this year, which shows that business travellers are voting with their feet and don’t want to put all our eggs in one basket.”
Jerry Blackett, Chief Executive of the Greater Birmingham Chambers of Commerce said: “Our region has a larger trade surplus with North America than any other in the UK, and is the only region to have a positive balance of trade with China. This is down to the strength of our financial services, manufacturing and engineering sectors and more, all of which are supported by our long-haul connectivity to markets around the world. The right decision for our region is the one that allows more businesses to fly direct, not one that could draw more business to Heathrow and the South East.”
Stewart Wingate, London Gatwick CEO said: “Competition between the UK's airports is essential for delivering choice for passengers, businesses and investors across the country. By expanding Gatwick we can harness the strength of the country's network of great airports, delivering new South East capacity and supporting the growth of connectivity across the UK.”
The Midlands contributes more than £178 billion to the economy, including 16 percent of all UK exports, and Birmingham has recently been names as the UK’s most investible city. A letter from nine regional MPs, Birmingham City Council leader Sir Albert Bore and Midlands business leaders and published in December raised concerns that Heathrow growth could negatively impact the region, and asserted that: “The UK needs new competition and a network of airports to boost growth, drive down costs and improve value, not expansion of Heathrow.”
Birmingham Airport handled 9,707,449 passengers in 2014; an increase of 6.5% compared to 2013, including a 7.2% in long-haul. It commissioned the research as it is concerned that growth at Heathrow could negatively impact the space Birmingham has to grow its own long-haul and business flight offering, which it says is crucial for the economy of the Midlands.
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Oxera conclude that that the most intuitive deduction about economic impacts, taking the Airports Commission’s traffic forecast as given, is that Heathrow expansion would be more likely to exacerbate rather than mitigate regional imbalances, by drawing more business into the London area
So I think it is right for the report to suggest that the impact will vary from region to region and airport to airport. As for BHX, I suspect it is the fact that you are that much closer to LHR that could adversely affect you if greater frequency of flights and more destinations become available at LHR.
It depends what Davies eventually recommends and what's in the detailed report by way of evidence, reasoning, analysis etc. but some of his comments so far regarding regional airports have hardly been encouraging.
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Marshall to take over BHX FBO
Marshall Aviation Services, the business aviation-focused arm of the Marshall Aerospace and Defence Group, announced today it is widening its expertise into the FBO arena. It has secured the executive aviation handling facility (FBO) at Birmingham Airport and will formally open for business under the Marshall Aviation Services name within the next few months.
Marshall has agreed a long term lease of the award-winning FBO, built in 2011 and located to the west of the airport. The glass fronted 4,000m2 (44,000 sq.ft.) facility, includes 2,500m2 (27,000sq.ft) of hangarage space which will be available both to resident and ad-hoc visiting aircraft. Under the previous operator, the FBO was named Best Handling Agent/FBO by industry peers of the Baltic Air Charter Association (BACA) in 2013. The FBO is regularly used by BAE Avro RJ executive charter operator Cello Aviation and FlairJet, Marshall Aviation Services’ aircraft operations, charter and management company, will also have a presence there. The facility will continue to offer fuel services via Avfuel.
Freddie Judge returns to his previous role to run the facility day-to-day as FBO Manager whilst overseen by Cambridge-based Pauline Smith, who has served in senior FBO roles with ExecuJet and Harrods Aviation in Dubai and London Stansted, respectively. Pauline was manager of Al Bateen Executive’s DhabiJet facility before joining Marshall’s in 2012. The Marshall Aviation Services’ team intends to position the facility as a world-class FBO, offering comprehensive amenities for both flight crew and passengers, including crew rest facilities, flight planning rooms, prayer room and visitor or residential crew offices.
Birmingham Airport, the seventh biggest airport in the UK, offers some unique attributes for business aviation, including 24/7 opening hours, a long 3,052m (10,000ft) runway; 'plenty of low cost apron parking for the largest of aircraft types and excellent ground transportation links, complemented by multiple commercial flights, enabling private aircraft crews to reposition with ease.
Centred within the industrial heart of the UK and home to the motor industry’s development and manufacturing capital, Birmingham has the second largest city economy in the UK, the second most visited city in England outside of London and the region creates exports in goods worth over £20 billion. The new FBO is a mere five minutes’ drive to the UK’s National Exhibition Centre (NEC) and the new £150m Resorts World Casino complex, currently under development by Genting, which includes the former LG Arena.
Entertainers and celebrities, along with business leaders will also be able to access the International Convention Centre (ICC), Symphony Hall and the National Indoor Arena (now Barclaycard Arena) within minutes from the private aviation facility. Birmingham Airport will eventually be linked with London via the new HS2 high speed rail line in just 32 minutes, but today helicopter shuttles are available to interline or reposition to London.
Marshall will work closely with Birmingham Airport in building business through the FBO, realising interlining opportunities for business jet travel, for example, among First and Business Class passengers flying into Birmingham on potential new long-haul destinations - Beijing, Shanghai, Tokyo, Bangkok, Los Angeles, Las Vegas and Johannesburg. Business executives can make private aircraft connections for UK or near-Europe flights through the Marshall VIP facility within minutes of arrival or departure.
Marshall Aviation Services Managing Director Steve Jones commented: “This new facility is part of our strategic plan to develop a portfolio of services to private aircraft owners - from aircraft sales and management charter through to support refurbishment and upgrades. Our new Birmingham facility will offer first class handling services, accommodating aircraft up to Gulfstream 550 or Global size in the hangar. We will also be able to offer line support capabilities all Textron family (Cessna, Hawker and Beechcraft) and Bombardier Global or Challenger models in the near term, as the future market demands.”
Melanie Cameron, Birmingham Airport’s Head of Property, said, “The arrival of Marshall Aviation Services at Birmingham Airport is great news. It is a very exciting time for us, with record passenger numbers and the recent completion of a multi-million pound redevelop programme to allow for the growth of our long-haul route network so we are delighted to welcome the Marshalls team this year. The new operation will provide first class facilities for airlines and passengers, and aviation business services that are much needed in the Midlands to support the thriving local economy.”
Pauline Smith and Freddie Judge will participate at the Schedulers and Dispatchers Conference in California, USA during February 3-6, Stand 724
Marshall Aerospace and Defence Group (Marshall Aerospace and Defence Group - Marshall Aerospace and Defence Group) specialises in the conversion and modification of military, civil and business aircraft; defence vehicle engineering and shelter manufacture. Its capabilities include engineering design, manufacture and test, systems integration, maintenance and product support, and the provision of personnel, training and advice. The company is valued for its integrity, performance and customer focus which has been demonstrated through its innovative solutions and ability to deliver on-time and to-cost. Marshall Aerospace and Defence Group is part of the Marshall Group of Companies which employs over 4,500 people with a turnover in excess of £1.3bn.
Marshall Aviation Services (Marshall Aviation Services - Marshall Aviation Services) is responsible for all of Marshall ADG’s business and commercial aviation activities, including the management of Cambridge International Airport. Across its Broughton, Cambridge and Oxford locations it offers solutions including: maintenance, modification, refurbishment and conversion of business aircraft to Hawker, King Air and Cessna Citation aircraft amongst others. The company also provides aircraft management and charter through FlairJet; sales of new Beechcraft Aircraft across the UK, Ireland and Scandinavia; hangarage at Cambridge International Airport; and within JETability, aircraft brokerage and complementary services tailored to the requirements of business aircraft owners and operators.
FlairJet (FlairJet | FlairJet) was founded in 2009 by CEO Captain David Fletcher with the backing of three prominent London QCs. It obtained its UK AOC in December of that year. From its base at London Oxford Airport, the company has established itself as a dynamic aircraft management company with a strong track record in charter sales. In March 2013 the company was acquired by the Marshall Aerospace and Defence Group to become the lead charter company for Marshall Aviation Services’ expanding business aviation portfolio with David Fletcher continuing as Managing Director. FlairJet has lent its technical expertise to Embraer Phenom 100 and 300 operators all around the world and its training department is actively involved in supporting private owners, other AOC operators and approved training organisations throughout Europe. The company has managed the acquisition, acceptance and delivery of a total 24 Embraer aircraft.
Marshall has agreed a long term lease of the award-winning FBO, built in 2011 and located to the west of the airport. The glass fronted 4,000m2 (44,000 sq.ft.) facility, includes 2,500m2 (27,000sq.ft) of hangarage space which will be available both to resident and ad-hoc visiting aircraft. Under the previous operator, the FBO was named Best Handling Agent/FBO by industry peers of the Baltic Air Charter Association (BACA) in 2013. The FBO is regularly used by BAE Avro RJ executive charter operator Cello Aviation and FlairJet, Marshall Aviation Services’ aircraft operations, charter and management company, will also have a presence there. The facility will continue to offer fuel services via Avfuel.
Freddie Judge returns to his previous role to run the facility day-to-day as FBO Manager whilst overseen by Cambridge-based Pauline Smith, who has served in senior FBO roles with ExecuJet and Harrods Aviation in Dubai and London Stansted, respectively. Pauline was manager of Al Bateen Executive’s DhabiJet facility before joining Marshall’s in 2012. The Marshall Aviation Services’ team intends to position the facility as a world-class FBO, offering comprehensive amenities for both flight crew and passengers, including crew rest facilities, flight planning rooms, prayer room and visitor or residential crew offices.
Birmingham Airport, the seventh biggest airport in the UK, offers some unique attributes for business aviation, including 24/7 opening hours, a long 3,052m (10,000ft) runway; 'plenty of low cost apron parking for the largest of aircraft types and excellent ground transportation links, complemented by multiple commercial flights, enabling private aircraft crews to reposition with ease.
Centred within the industrial heart of the UK and home to the motor industry’s development and manufacturing capital, Birmingham has the second largest city economy in the UK, the second most visited city in England outside of London and the region creates exports in goods worth over £20 billion. The new FBO is a mere five minutes’ drive to the UK’s National Exhibition Centre (NEC) and the new £150m Resorts World Casino complex, currently under development by Genting, which includes the former LG Arena.
Entertainers and celebrities, along with business leaders will also be able to access the International Convention Centre (ICC), Symphony Hall and the National Indoor Arena (now Barclaycard Arena) within minutes from the private aviation facility. Birmingham Airport will eventually be linked with London via the new HS2 high speed rail line in just 32 minutes, but today helicopter shuttles are available to interline or reposition to London.
Marshall will work closely with Birmingham Airport in building business through the FBO, realising interlining opportunities for business jet travel, for example, among First and Business Class passengers flying into Birmingham on potential new long-haul destinations - Beijing, Shanghai, Tokyo, Bangkok, Los Angeles, Las Vegas and Johannesburg. Business executives can make private aircraft connections for UK or near-Europe flights through the Marshall VIP facility within minutes of arrival or departure.
Marshall Aviation Services Managing Director Steve Jones commented: “This new facility is part of our strategic plan to develop a portfolio of services to private aircraft owners - from aircraft sales and management charter through to support refurbishment and upgrades. Our new Birmingham facility will offer first class handling services, accommodating aircraft up to Gulfstream 550 or Global size in the hangar. We will also be able to offer line support capabilities all Textron family (Cessna, Hawker and Beechcraft) and Bombardier Global or Challenger models in the near term, as the future market demands.”
Melanie Cameron, Birmingham Airport’s Head of Property, said, “The arrival of Marshall Aviation Services at Birmingham Airport is great news. It is a very exciting time for us, with record passenger numbers and the recent completion of a multi-million pound redevelop programme to allow for the growth of our long-haul route network so we are delighted to welcome the Marshalls team this year. The new operation will provide first class facilities for airlines and passengers, and aviation business services that are much needed in the Midlands to support the thriving local economy.”
Pauline Smith and Freddie Judge will participate at the Schedulers and Dispatchers Conference in California, USA during February 3-6, Stand 724
Marshall Aerospace and Defence Group (Marshall Aerospace and Defence Group - Marshall Aerospace and Defence Group) specialises in the conversion and modification of military, civil and business aircraft; defence vehicle engineering and shelter manufacture. Its capabilities include engineering design, manufacture and test, systems integration, maintenance and product support, and the provision of personnel, training and advice. The company is valued for its integrity, performance and customer focus which has been demonstrated through its innovative solutions and ability to deliver on-time and to-cost. Marshall Aerospace and Defence Group is part of the Marshall Group of Companies which employs over 4,500 people with a turnover in excess of £1.3bn.
Marshall Aviation Services (Marshall Aviation Services - Marshall Aviation Services) is responsible for all of Marshall ADG’s business and commercial aviation activities, including the management of Cambridge International Airport. Across its Broughton, Cambridge and Oxford locations it offers solutions including: maintenance, modification, refurbishment and conversion of business aircraft to Hawker, King Air and Cessna Citation aircraft amongst others. The company also provides aircraft management and charter through FlairJet; sales of new Beechcraft Aircraft across the UK, Ireland and Scandinavia; hangarage at Cambridge International Airport; and within JETability, aircraft brokerage and complementary services tailored to the requirements of business aircraft owners and operators.
FlairJet (FlairJet | FlairJet) was founded in 2009 by CEO Captain David Fletcher with the backing of three prominent London QCs. It obtained its UK AOC in December of that year. From its base at London Oxford Airport, the company has established itself as a dynamic aircraft management company with a strong track record in charter sales. In March 2013 the company was acquired by the Marshall Aerospace and Defence Group to become the lead charter company for Marshall Aviation Services’ expanding business aviation portfolio with David Fletcher continuing as Managing Director. FlairJet has lent its technical expertise to Embraer Phenom 100 and 300 operators all around the world and its training department is actively involved in supporting private owners, other AOC operators and approved training organisations throughout Europe. The company has managed the acquisition, acceptance and delivery of a total 24 Embraer aircraft.
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The contribution to the regions requires a much more thorough analysis by Davies.
All the major cities which require "connectivity" already have it !
Manchester Newcastle Leeds (4) Glasgow Aberdeen etc
You are already talking a flight every hour excluding Leeds so how on earth will squeezing in one say every 30 minutes possibly improve connectivity !
There seems to be a thought process that a new runway will suddenly result in a plethora of new service to regions that are not served at the moment.
Well hang on most were dropped in the 1st place because they were unprofitable....
And where is the comprehensive analysis of the spend.
You might rub your hands with glee when a minister talks about a few million pound investment in the Midlands but compare this to the billions being pumped into projects in the South East
The BBC reported "state aid" required for LHR and LGW would be billions.
It's staggering that many people have no idea what the difference is between a million and a billion.
By all means support the Capital but by a 1000times. ...C'mon !
The contribution to the regions requires a much more thorough analysis by Davies.
All the major cities which require "connectivity" already have it !
Manchester Newcastle Leeds (4) Glasgow Aberdeen etc
You are already talking a flight every hour excluding Leeds so how on earth will squeezing in one say every 30 minutes possibly improve connectivity !
There seems to be a thought process that a new runway will suddenly result in a plethora of new service to regions that are not served at the moment.
Well hang on most were dropped in the 1st place because they were unprofitable....
And where is the comprehensive analysis of the spend.
You might rub your hands with glee when a minister talks about a few million pound investment in the Midlands but compare this to the billions being pumped into projects in the South East
The BBC reported "state aid" required for LHR and LGW would be billions.
It's staggering that many people have no idea what the difference is between a million and a billion.
By all means support the Capital but by a 1000times. ...C'mon !
Marshalls FBO - surprised nobodies picked up on this!
Unprofitable or not profitable enough given the artificial slot market?
Marshall will work closely with Birmingham Airport in building business through the FBO, realising interlining opportunities for business jet travel, for example, among First and Business Class passengers flying into Birmingham on potential new long-haul destinations - Beijing, Shanghai, Tokyo, Bangkok, Los Angeles, Las Vegas and Johannesburg. Business executives can make private aircraft connections for UK or near-Europe flights through the Marshall VIP facility within minutes of arrival or departure.
Well hang on most were dropped in the 1st place because they were unprofitable....
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Monarch 2015/6
Monarch have loaded some destinations in the booking engine and they all mirror this winter for frequencies other some time changes and the Tuesday Sharm moving to Sunday but reverting to three a week like now and not staying at four as per the coming summer.
Alicante (5), Faro (3), Malaga (4), Rome (2) Sharm (3) and Tenerife (7) are the routes leaving all the ski routes, LPA, ACE, LCA, GIB and FNC outstanding.
Very similar at Gatwick and Manchester.
Alicante (5), Faro (3), Malaga (4), Rome (2) Sharm (3) and Tenerife (7) are the routes leaving all the ski routes, LPA, ACE, LCA, GIB and FNC outstanding.
Very similar at Gatwick and Manchester.
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December 2014 International Route Analysis
Again I used a BHX blog, libhomeradar, the CAA official provisional passenger figures and the flybe flight information section on their website which is really useful when you want to know which flights operated on a specific day.
However some average loads and load factors are estimated due to variable configs used by the airlines and estimating which flights were cancelled over the holiday period.
Overall not too bad considering a lot of destinations are terrible in the first two weeks of December. The flybe figures sort of reflect the flybe interim results published today with increased load factors just a shame they can't make money as well as putting bums of seats or so they say.
Salzburg..........561 (nil)...........131.per flight..61% load factor new service
Brussels.........8911 (9428).........45 per flight.55% load factor
Larnaca.........3165 (7143).......176 pax........82%
Copenhagen...7172 (5679)........87 pax........70%
Billund..............nil..(380)............................. ..
Chambery.......352 (923)...........59 pax.......67%
Grenoble........135 (2398).........135 pax.......67%
Lyons............4016 (3346)........67 pax........76%
Paris CDG......35688 (32286)....112 pax.......86%
Toulouse........2550 (o)............61 pax.......79%
Berlin TXL.......3627 (4098).......65 pax.......75%
Cologne..........3662 (nil)..........65 pax........84%
Dusseldorf.....14983 (14524)... .52 pax.........60%
Frankfurt.......22140 (24744).. 115 pax.........70% strike resulted in cancellations
Hamburg.........5314 (2457)... ..63 pax.........68%
Hanover..........4963 (3449)... ..66 pax.........72%
Munich..........14079 (13235).. .93 pax.........75%
Stuttgart........5423 (3395).... .66 pax.........75%
Gibraltar..........3200 (3178))....123 pax........71%
Cork...............5807 (5735)......81 pax.........81%
Knock.............2740 (1966)......55 pax.........71%
Dublin............62173 (49799)..124 pax.........74%
Shannon..........2905 (2070).....32 pax.........66%
Waterford........1524 (1552).....59 pax.........75%
Florence..........2191 (nil)........64 pax.........73%
Milan MXP........3781 (3143).....63 pax........72%
Rome FCO........2382 (2173)....149 pax.......70%
Turin................557 (nil)........139 pax.......65% new ski flight like 185/87%
Malta..............3156 (3044)....175 pax........93%
Amsterdam.....40902 (35786)....96 pax.......75%
Faro............. 4836 (5566).....141 pax........60%
Oporto...........1517 (nil)..........58 pax........66%
Funchel..........2807 (2307).....140 pax........66%
Alicante.........13911 (10227)..,162 pax........81%
Barcelona........4443 (4463).....171 pax........90%
Malaga..........10042 (9166)...164 pax.........82%
Arrecife........10140 9166() incorrect split shown between schedule & IT
Fuerteventura 6170 (6001) incorrect split shown between schedule & IT
Las Palmas.....4127 (2810)...147 pax..........74%
Tenerife........16032 (14455) incorrect split shown between schedule & IT
Gothenburg.....688 (921).......25 pax.........66% based on the 135
Reykjavik.......1620 (o)..........68 pax.........77%
Oslo...............2040 (nil).......64 pax..........73%
Geneva.........7514 (6039)....125 pax.........79% only started daily mid-month
Zurich...........8780 (8611).....83 pax.........74%
Istanbul.........9912 (9662)...113 pax.........71%
Kaunas..........3076 (o)........154 pax.........81%
Bydgoscz......4627 (4641......165 pax.........87%
Gdansk.........3011 (0).........151 pax.........80%
Katowice......3323 (2769).....166 pax........88%
Krakow.........3253 (3041)....162 pax.........86%
Bratislava.....3798 (3241).....158 pax.........84%
Hurghada......1966 (0).........109 pax.........51% - a bit strange
Sharm..........4889 (4659).....163 pax.........76%
Ashkhabad....5246 (4656)....146 pax.........78%
Dubai..........45475 (43744)...367 pax........88%
Delhi............8054 (7358).....175 pax........68% delays and cancellations over the holiday period
Islamabad....6466 (7852)......249 pax.........73%
Newark........6961 (7525)....158 pax...........94% fewer fuller flights hence the load factor - this month not so good
However some average loads and load factors are estimated due to variable configs used by the airlines and estimating which flights were cancelled over the holiday period.
Overall not too bad considering a lot of destinations are terrible in the first two weeks of December. The flybe figures sort of reflect the flybe interim results published today with increased load factors just a shame they can't make money as well as putting bums of seats or so they say.
Salzburg..........561 (nil)...........131.per flight..61% load factor new service
Brussels.........8911 (9428).........45 per flight.55% load factor
Larnaca.........3165 (7143).......176 pax........82%
Copenhagen...7172 (5679)........87 pax........70%
Billund..............nil..(380)............................. ..
Chambery.......352 (923)...........59 pax.......67%
Grenoble........135 (2398).........135 pax.......67%
Lyons............4016 (3346)........67 pax........76%
Paris CDG......35688 (32286)....112 pax.......86%
Toulouse........2550 (o)............61 pax.......79%
Berlin TXL.......3627 (4098).......65 pax.......75%
Cologne..........3662 (nil)..........65 pax........84%
Dusseldorf.....14983 (14524)... .52 pax.........60%
Frankfurt.......22140 (24744).. 115 pax.........70% strike resulted in cancellations
Hamburg.........5314 (2457)... ..63 pax.........68%
Hanover..........4963 (3449)... ..66 pax.........72%
Munich..........14079 (13235).. .93 pax.........75%
Stuttgart........5423 (3395).... .66 pax.........75%
Gibraltar..........3200 (3178))....123 pax........71%
Cork...............5807 (5735)......81 pax.........81%
Knock.............2740 (1966)......55 pax.........71%
Dublin............62173 (49799)..124 pax.........74%
Shannon..........2905 (2070).....32 pax.........66%
Waterford........1524 (1552).....59 pax.........75%
Florence..........2191 (nil)........64 pax.........73%
Milan MXP........3781 (3143).....63 pax........72%
Rome FCO........2382 (2173)....149 pax.......70%
Turin................557 (nil)........139 pax.......65% new ski flight like 185/87%
Malta..............3156 (3044)....175 pax........93%
Amsterdam.....40902 (35786)....96 pax.......75%
Faro............. 4836 (5566).....141 pax........60%
Oporto...........1517 (nil)..........58 pax........66%
Funchel..........2807 (2307).....140 pax........66%
Alicante.........13911 (10227)..,162 pax........81%
Barcelona........4443 (4463).....171 pax........90%
Malaga..........10042 (9166)...164 pax.........82%
Arrecife........10140 9166() incorrect split shown between schedule & IT
Fuerteventura 6170 (6001) incorrect split shown between schedule & IT
Las Palmas.....4127 (2810)...147 pax..........74%
Tenerife........16032 (14455) incorrect split shown between schedule & IT
Gothenburg.....688 (921).......25 pax.........66% based on the 135
Reykjavik.......1620 (o)..........68 pax.........77%
Oslo...............2040 (nil).......64 pax..........73%
Geneva.........7514 (6039)....125 pax.........79% only started daily mid-month
Zurich...........8780 (8611).....83 pax.........74%
Istanbul.........9912 (9662)...113 pax.........71%
Kaunas..........3076 (o)........154 pax.........81%
Bydgoscz......4627 (4641......165 pax.........87%
Gdansk.........3011 (0).........151 pax.........80%
Katowice......3323 (2769).....166 pax........88%
Krakow.........3253 (3041)....162 pax.........86%
Bratislava.....3798 (3241).....158 pax.........84%
Hurghada......1966 (0).........109 pax.........51% - a bit strange
Sharm..........4889 (4659).....163 pax.........76%
Ashkhabad....5246 (4656)....146 pax.........78%
Dubai..........45475 (43744)...367 pax........88%
Delhi............8054 (7358).....175 pax........68% delays and cancellations over the holiday period
Islamabad....6466 (7852)......249 pax.........73%
Newark........6961 (7525)....158 pax...........94% fewer fuller flights hence the load factor - this month not so good
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Airports Commission and the "regions"
The biggest impediment to long haul expansion, trans-Atlantic excepted, at BHX, MAN, GLA, etc. is not Heathrow expansion, but EK.
That carrier saw the opportunity, took it, and is now very well embedded at the largest non-London airports with a dominant position in long haul.
Despite most journeys being the long way round and requiring a change of aircraft at DXB, EK has gone from strength to strength. The same applies to EY and QR at MAN.
Carriers wanting to offer direct flights to Beijing, Shanghai, Tokyo, Bangkok, and Johannesburg, as mentioned above, and other destinations, have to take on a long-established and sucessful operation.
The question is: do they have the stomach for it? Bearing in mind that most pax are happy to take the long way round via DXB (else they would go via AMS, CDG, FRA, or LHR (except BHX in the case of the latter)), is there sufficient premium business to make direct flights viable?
Heathrow with two, three or four rwys is irrelevant in this.
That carrier saw the opportunity, took it, and is now very well embedded at the largest non-London airports with a dominant position in long haul.
Despite most journeys being the long way round and requiring a change of aircraft at DXB, EK has gone from strength to strength. The same applies to EY and QR at MAN.
Carriers wanting to offer direct flights to Beijing, Shanghai, Tokyo, Bangkok, and Johannesburg, as mentioned above, and other destinations, have to take on a long-established and sucessful operation.
The question is: do they have the stomach for it? Bearing in mind that most pax are happy to take the long way round via DXB (else they would go via AMS, CDG, FRA, or LHR (except BHX in the case of the latter)), is there sufficient premium business to make direct flights viable?
Heathrow with two, three or four rwys is irrelevant in this.
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Whilst I agree with you to some extent, EK do not provide suitable connections for UK passengers going to the USA/Canada and yet there hasn't been that much expansion to airports in these countries. It is very possible that if it wasn't for EK, we still wouldn't have massive amounts of long-haul destinations to the east. If anything, EK is putting the airport on the map as an airport with some decent long-haul connections, not just a short-haul airport.
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To be fair it's pretty well embedded at Heathrow now as well !
What would Birmingham folk rather see in the future an expanded LHR or further expansion of EK.
Suspect it's the latter !
What would Birmingham folk rather see in the future an expanded LHR or further expansion of EK.
Suspect it's the latter !
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To be fair it's pretty well embedded at Heathrow now as well !
What would Birmingham folk rather see in the future an expanded LHR or further expansion of EK.
Suspect it's the latter !
Suspect it's the latter !