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Old 1st Nov 2014, 15:35
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Florence appears particularly counterintuitive, increasing to 5/7 in March just before the route disappears in April?
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Old 1st Nov 2014, 15:59
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I really don't think that he full flybe sunmer 15 schedules have been releases as yet.


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Old 3rd Nov 2014, 07:21
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AA/JFK

http://http://thebirminghampress.com...ngham-and-jfk/

Good to see the return of AA (and BA) to BHX. Will this damage the united route in the same way Continental saw of the BA BHX-JFK?
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Old 3rd Nov 2014, 07:46
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Good to see the return of AA (and BA) to BHX. Will this damage the united route in the same way Continental saw of the BA BHX-JFK?
I don't see that the two operations (BA and AA) are really comparable. BA's operation was with a BHX based aircraft, and all the costs associated with basing a one aircraft fleet running a single long haul route, whereas AA's is an away based aircraft with much lower costs as a result.

You could say that LH ran BA off BHX / FRA or AF ran BA off CDG, but the reality is that BA couldn't (apparently) make money from "the regions" (BHX wasn't alone in this problem).

Hopefully the AA operation will thrive, and perhaps continue through the winter, but the Midlands business community has to use it (the front end of it) to make it viable year round, and the Chambers of Commerce have an unenviable record of calling for more direct flights from Birmingham, only for their members to continue using LHR or other European hubs!
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Old 3rd Nov 2014, 11:00
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I'm today trying to book flights for a holiday next summer on AA from BHX. It is coming up with ludicrous prices of $4223 at the moment for economy class, and $11000+ for business class! According to the Travel Agent I'm using, AA haven't released official fares yet. Is this normal when a new route is introduced?
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Old 3rd Nov 2014, 13:49
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@davebham - let's say not unusual, but not ideal.
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Old 3rd Nov 2014, 16:58
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Me too, Dave....but not at £2200.

I see that Skyscanner have a few of the early flights at around £340 ew.
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Old 3rd Nov 2014, 22:29
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Yeah, I'm getting for jul/aug travel £951 return on United, and £2600 on AA!
They won't last long at BHX with those fares lol
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I have also noticed the ridiculous fares quoted for BHX JFK return flights. I've notified both the airport and the airline that putting people off booking by having such high fares is far from beneficial.
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Old 4th Nov 2014, 07:48
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Smile AA

The default fares will be changed today ....

& then you can.....Book away
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Old 4th Nov 2014, 08:49
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Thanks Simon. They've not changed yet, but I shall keep an eye out for them.
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Old 4th Nov 2014, 08:57
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Just seen that a lot of fares have indeed reduced from the £2000 price to more normal rates. Also, AA have mentioned on their Facebook page in a reply that this is not a seasonal service and is "year round".
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Old 4th Nov 2014, 09:05
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Yes, that's better - I'm getting £981 for my summer dates, to United's £951.

Fantastic.
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Old 4th Nov 2014, 10:35
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Vueling to fly BCN next summer.

http://vuelingnews.com/2014/11/04/vu...iones-en-2015/

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Old 4th Nov 2014, 12:08
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Wow, it's all go at BHX at the moment isn't it?!!
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Old 4th Nov 2014, 13:06
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Birmingham Barcelona with Veuling

"Vueling grows for the sixth consecutive year and over 100 aircraft in 2015"
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"From Barcelona-El Prat, the airline will sell a total of 15,500,000 of seats, 31% more than last summer. In addition, 143 routes with 50 based aircraft, some of them new, as Ancona will operate, Brindisi and Trieste in Italy, Birmingham and Belfast in the UK, Dublin in Ireland, Portugal and Madeira Faro, Geneva and Basel in Switzerland, Rotterdam in the Netherlands and Moscow (Sheremetyevo) in Russia. in the rest of the domestic market, also 9% increase in the total number of seats for sale, reaching a maximum of 7,069,230. in a year when Spain beat its record for tourist arrivals, Vueling has carried one in three passengers (33%) for domestic flights and has also positioned itself as the leader in transporting passengers from Spain to France, Malta, Cyprus and Croatia airline. "

http://vuelingnews.com/2014/11/04/vu...iones-en-2015/

More positive route news
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Great news; keep them coming!
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Old 5th Nov 2014, 08:39
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Vueling

Barcelona begins:
1 June -3 weekly (M,F,Su)
22 June - 4 weekly (M,Th,F,Su)
3 August - 5 weekly (M,W,Th,F,Su)
7 September - 2 weekly (M,Su)
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Old 5th Nov 2014, 23:18
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You could say that LH ran BA off BHX / FRA or AF ran BA off CDG, but the reality is that BA couldn't (apparently) make money from "the regions" (BHX wasn't alone in this problem).
It could be that LH and AF were able to feed connecting pax through their hubs at FRA and CDG (respectively) as well as carrying point to point pax.

BA, on the other hand, could only carry point to point pax on these routes as its hub (LHR) was bypassed. If there weren't sufficient numbers........

Perhaps that is what is meant by "BA couldn't (apparently) make money from "the regions"" and this would also apply in the case of MAN, GLA, etc..

Hopefully the AA operation will thrive, and perhaps continue through the winter, but the Midlands business community has to use it (the front end of it) to make it viable year round, and the Chambers of Commerce have an unenviable record of calling for more direct flights from Birmingham, only for their members to continue using LHR or other European hubs!
AA would be in a similar position to AF and LH, carrying point to point pax and feeding connecting pax through it hub at JFK.

So it's a case of come on you Brummies, use the service and use it often.
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Old 7th Nov 2014, 14:26
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BHX-HAM

4U this weekend with special offer of 59.98 EUR return HAM-BHX-HAM, or £59.98 BHX-HAM-BHX (talking about a poor exchange rate...) for much of January to March. Feeling the pressure?

EDIT 13NOV14: Was on yesterday's BHX-HAM by BE (chosen over 4U due to later departure time), flight was uneventful, 50/88 (57%) load, but, so much better, an airbridge in HAM. Not sure if that was an exception or not, but much preferable to 4U's bussing around in HAM.

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