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Rumour over the weekend was PHL/ORD on alternating days using an A333!
I'd also add that any new US service would have to be at least x5 weekly to be viable - I'm not really sure a (for example) x4 ORD/x3PHL would work at all. Adding that no A333's are based in ORD I'd be inclined to think AA to JFK or US resuming PHL with 757s are the likely scenarios - ORD would be nice though!
I'd also add that any new US service would have to be at least x5 weekly to be viable - I'm not really sure a (for example) x4 ORD/x3PHL would work at all. Adding that no A333's are based in ORD I'd be inclined to think AA to JFK or US resuming PHL with 757s are the likely scenarios - ORD would be nice though!
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American/Germanwings/Mahan
US Airways PHL
May 2009..... 3449 pax...28 flights....123 per flight...load factor....70%
June 2009.... 5622 pax...42 flights....134 perflight....load factor....76%
July 2009 .....5679 pax...44 flights....129 per flight...load factor....73%
August 2009. 7181 pax...46 flights....156 per flight...load factor....89%
September.. 5599 pax...41 flights....137 per flight...load factor... 78%
Source: CAA for the monthly pax and punctuality stats & config from planespotters.net - I assume one tech outbound flight in September.
I think they speak for themselves why it never returned although as chinapattern stated it was 2009 and although at the time most including me cheered it was not the brightest decision in hindsight, especially after about three years of will they won't they.
I actually looked to use it and fares were not bargain basement in economy but I have to say I didn't look too much at business fares.
CLT in my opinion is a non-starter.
It has to be JFK or ORD, daily and summer only to start. Note, the first month PHL started EWR was down 12%!
insuindi
Just can't see Hamburg lasting beyond the CR9's unless they can make a three or four a week on the A319 pay.
crewmeal
Re Mahan, a good result really with mainly transfer traffic as the target it will help Turkmenistan to continue with ASB having only just recovered from Air India starting. Were they ever looking at BHX or was it Honiley
Lufthansa
LH956/7 next summer is showing as an A321 and despite the fact it is often an A321 it usually defaults to the A320 for anything more than a few months in advance.
Brussels Airlines
flybe still operating in November per the SN website - I assume the contact has been extended?
Pete
May 2009..... 3449 pax...28 flights....123 per flight...load factor....70%
June 2009.... 5622 pax...42 flights....134 perflight....load factor....76%
July 2009 .....5679 pax...44 flights....129 per flight...load factor....73%
August 2009. 7181 pax...46 flights....156 per flight...load factor....89%
September.. 5599 pax...41 flights....137 per flight...load factor... 78%
Source: CAA for the monthly pax and punctuality stats & config from planespotters.net - I assume one tech outbound flight in September.
I think they speak for themselves why it never returned although as chinapattern stated it was 2009 and although at the time most including me cheered it was not the brightest decision in hindsight, especially after about three years of will they won't they.
I actually looked to use it and fares were not bargain basement in economy but I have to say I didn't look too much at business fares.
CLT in my opinion is a non-starter.
It has to be JFK or ORD, daily and summer only to start. Note, the first month PHL started EWR was down 12%!
insuindi
Just can't see Hamburg lasting beyond the CR9's unless they can make a three or four a week on the A319 pay.
crewmeal
Re Mahan, a good result really with mainly transfer traffic as the target it will help Turkmenistan to continue with ASB having only just recovered from Air India starting. Were they ever looking at BHX or was it Honiley
Lufthansa
LH956/7 next summer is showing as an A321 and despite the fact it is often an A321 it usually defaults to the A320 for anything more than a few months in advance.
Brussels Airlines
flybe still operating in November per the SN website - I assume the contact has been extended?
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The US/AA UK market is to be rationalised not expanded due to planned international 757 withdrawals. Would be surprised if a new station is opened. If A330s are going anywhere in the UK I don't think BHX will be first. I dont expect the current untidy Scottish 757 arrangement to last beyond next summer either in its current form.
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100% will not be an Airbus service and both are withdrawing 762/3s gradually so 752 is most likely even if restricted. It really just depends on their motives for coming back to BHX and who is pulling the strings.
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FlyBE Summer
FlyBE Summer 2015 appears to be loaded (whether fully or not remains to be seen)
An initial glance at some destinations as it stands...
MXP 14/7
STR 12/7
HAJ 7/7 !
HAM 7/7
TXL 6/7 ! [in fact, frequency increase by adding a Wednesday flight appears effective from December '14 with Christmas break]
FLR 0/7 !
OPO 4/7
CGN 0/7 !
OSL 7/7
KEF 0/7 !
An initial glance at some destinations as it stands...
MXP 14/7
STR 12/7
HAJ 7/7 !
HAM 7/7
TXL 6/7 ! [in fact, frequency increase by adding a Wednesday flight appears effective from December '14 with Christmas break]
FLR 0/7 !
OPO 4/7
CGN 0/7 !
OSL 7/7
KEF 0/7 !
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RE Flybe S15
Also loaded Knock (5PW) Waterford (4PW) BOD (4PW) TLS (4PW)
The latter was one of the star performers this summer and at one time was showing as going daily for S15.
The latter was one of the star performers this summer and at one time was showing as going daily for S15.
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Hopefully a work in progress, nice to see NQY back! I would be surprised to see FLR dropped as it was extended into the winter season. Loads seem to have been good and when I looked at flying there first week of Sept fares were literally sky high. No mention either of ALC, IBZ, PMI yet either. Am not surprised though about CGN (loads have been nothing to shout about) or KEF with Icelandair arriving on the route from Feb. Shame there are no new routes from BE for S15, lets hope there will be as no one else appears to have anything new for the BHX departure boards.....
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received the FlyBE newsletter this evening:
"Summer 2015 flights now available!"
SUMMER 2015 HAS LANDED!
Summer 2015 flights are now available to book for travel up to the 3rd September! Fly from Birmingham to a range of destinations across the UK and Europe, including Oslo, Hamburg, Berlin and Perpignan.
Whether it's a city trip with friends over Easter or a family getaway during the half term or summer holidays, we've got it covered. Book now and get ready to take your seat!
With love from Flybe.
SUMMER 2015 FLIGHTS FROM BIRMINGHAM
Belfast
Paris CDG
Düsseldorf
Edinburgh
Bergerac
Guernsey
Glasgow
Hannover
Hamburg
Inverness
Isle of Man
Jersey
La Rochelle
Lyon
Milan
Knock Ireland West
Newquay
Porto
Oslo
Perpignan
Stuttgart
Toulouse
Berlin
Waterford
Aberdeen
Amsterdam
Avignon
"
That would confirm the lack of CGN and FLR.
"Summer 2015 flights now available!"
SUMMER 2015 HAS LANDED!
Summer 2015 flights are now available to book for travel up to the 3rd September! Fly from Birmingham to a range of destinations across the UK and Europe, including Oslo, Hamburg, Berlin and Perpignan.
Whether it's a city trip with friends over Easter or a family getaway during the half term or summer holidays, we've got it covered. Book now and get ready to take your seat!
With love from Flybe.
SUMMER 2015 FLIGHTS FROM BIRMINGHAM
Belfast
Paris CDG
Düsseldorf
Edinburgh
Bergerac
Guernsey
Glasgow
Hannover
Hamburg
Inverness
Isle of Man
Jersey
La Rochelle
Lyon
Milan
Knock Ireland West
Newquay
Porto
Oslo
Perpignan
Stuttgart
Toulouse
Berlin
Waterford
Aberdeen
Amsterdam
Avignon
"
That would confirm the lack of CGN and FLR.
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Looking at the NQY-BHX numbers I just wonder how close Flybe were to running the route into Winter 14/15 !
Then again, I also wonder how close it was to the route going double daily on some days for Summer 15 considering peak days in Summer 14 were sold out
cs
Then again, I also wonder how close it was to the route going double daily on some days for Summer 15 considering peak days in Summer 14 were sold out
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I would say very close, as they were loaded for a brief period alas no times, fares or frequencies but the winter months for Newquay were there compared to the standard message for Alicante, Palma etc of the flight only operates until 25 October. It might just have been a glitch but I doubt it.
chinapattern & insuindi
Florence was always the tricky one as they have not got an aircraft to operate the route for 12 months. The 175 was awful once the temperatures increased in Florence. I used the service in April and with 85 pax and temps in the mid 20's it took off an hour late put down to a missing tow-bar - not broke just missing. I am now wondering if there were payload issues, as the climb-out reminded me of a Delta 727 I took out of Tuscon in temperatures of 100F. To be fair we seemed to have a fair bit of runway left when the wheels left the ground in was just a low and slow climb.
Cologne has definitely been the sluggish one of all the new routes and this is not a surprise if it is to end.
The schedule is far from complete with nine 175's required at night but only seven in the morning. There is at least one or two day-time gaps as well.
Some interesting ones - Jersey up to three daily in the week and the 175 on Waterford. Now it did well but a jet and I surprised nobody from across the water has not picked up on that. I only checked one week in June but the seat-map is definitely a 175.
Amsterdam remains 4 daily on the 175.
I thought Florence might just change into Pisa - the bus is a bit long but reasonably priced to Florence centre.
I also assume they have resigned with Brussels Airlines as summer 2015 in GDS is showing BHX-BRU operated by flybe.
Pete
I would say very close, as they were loaded for a brief period alas no times, fares or frequencies but the winter months for Newquay were there compared to the standard message for Alicante, Palma etc of the flight only operates until 25 October. It might just have been a glitch but I doubt it.
chinapattern & insuindi
Florence was always the tricky one as they have not got an aircraft to operate the route for 12 months. The 175 was awful once the temperatures increased in Florence. I used the service in April and with 85 pax and temps in the mid 20's it took off an hour late put down to a missing tow-bar - not broke just missing. I am now wondering if there were payload issues, as the climb-out reminded me of a Delta 727 I took out of Tuscon in temperatures of 100F. To be fair we seemed to have a fair bit of runway left when the wheels left the ground in was just a low and slow climb.
Cologne has definitely been the sluggish one of all the new routes and this is not a surprise if it is to end.
The schedule is far from complete with nine 175's required at night but only seven in the morning. There is at least one or two day-time gaps as well.
Some interesting ones - Jersey up to three daily in the week and the 175 on Waterford. Now it did well but a jet and I surprised nobody from across the water has not picked up on that. I only checked one week in June but the seat-map is definitely a 175.
Amsterdam remains 4 daily on the 175.
I thought Florence might just change into Pisa - the bus is a bit long but reasonably priced to Florence centre.
I also assume they have resigned with Brussels Airlines as summer 2015 in GDS is showing BHX-BRU operated by flybe.
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and the 175 on Waterford. Now it did well but a jet and I surprised nobody from across the water has not picked up on that. I only checked one week in June but the seat-map is definitely a 175.
Flybe BHX 2015
Also not on list but Bordeaux is loaded - no flights for winter 14/15 -i'm sure that has changed recently ?
from March 2015 returns on sat sun mon & wed according to web site
Simon
from March 2015 returns on sat sun mon & wed according to web site
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Bordeaux 4/7 still feastures in the timetable section of the website for winter, so yes, a very recent removal of the winter service (same happened to the new SOU-HAM route, which has been postponed to summer 2015 - and was due to start within a week!)
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I thought Florence might just change into Pisa - the bus is a bit long but reasonably priced to Florence centre.
There is also a train which runs directly from Pisa Airport to Florence which is quite handy as it means you don't have to change at Pisa Centrale.
There is also a train which runs directly from Pisa Airport to Florence which is quite handy as it means you don't have to change at Pisa Centrale.
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111KAB ,
Unfortunately this article is just another rehash of what has been repeatedly covered by the media and stated by Mr K numerous times already.
Lets hope there is some actual significant news from the airport on new routes very soon.
Nigel
Unfortunately this article is just another rehash of what has been repeatedly covered by the media and stated by Mr K numerous times already.
Lets hope there is some actual significant news from the airport on new routes very soon.
Nigel