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BHX appears in the Qatar drop-down which is odd as it uses connections with other alliances. Example BHX-DOH is via Brussels on Brussels Airlines yes the same Brussels Airlines of Star Alliance - what is that all about?
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Good news if correct. I can see the logic behind going with JFK, as the UA service to EWR seems to run at high loads. On the other side, it can also be rather pricey, so a bit of competition would not go amiss.
On the other hand, being limited by range, is there possibly a market for BOS? That's a hub airport, with more boardings than IAD and a similar number to PHL.
On the other hand, being limited by range, is there possibly a market for BOS? That's a hub airport, with more boardings than IAD and a similar number to PHL.
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Peter,
Surely not PHL it was allegedly dropped very quickly due to poor yields and it mostly being 1 way traffic ie mostly UK nationals and few Americans coming in.
Therefore what has changed at BHX to change that ?
Looking at the established Manchester- ORD route , thats being suspended for a few months in the winter. Therefore any AA ORD to BHX surely would have to be seasonal also ?
The other issue is the AA 757s , the airline seems to use mostly 767s to Europe from ORD in the summer ,and expect its a bit tight fuel wise to reach BHX on a 757 westwards.
AA would therefore likely have to be confident they could get good loads especially front end on a 763.
However if it was summer only BHX may well be viable ?
Wait and see if the rumours are firmed up.
Nigel
Surely not PHL it was allegedly dropped very quickly due to poor yields and it mostly being 1 way traffic ie mostly UK nationals and few Americans coming in.
Therefore what has changed at BHX to change that ?
Looking at the established Manchester- ORD route , thats being suspended for a few months in the winter. Therefore any AA ORD to BHX surely would have to be seasonal also ?
The other issue is the AA 757s , the airline seems to use mostly 767s to Europe from ORD in the summer ,and expect its a bit tight fuel wise to reach BHX on a 757 westwards.
AA would therefore likely have to be confident they could get good loads especially front end on a 763.
However if it was summer only BHX may well be viable ?
Wait and see if the rumours are firmed up.
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and expect its a bit tight fuel wise to reach BHX on a 757 westwards.
Its well within range, 752's operate between NY and Berlin which around 130 miles longer than BHX-ORD.
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Jamie,
Not sure about well within range ...unless you reduce payload ??
Distance... BHX to ORD 3,860 MILES
Max range 757-200W 4,020 MILES .
You have to factor in at least 30 mins holding fuel for possible diversion too don't forget. So as I say tight to say the least
Think Berlin flts are weight restricted ?
Nigel
Not sure about well within range ...unless you reduce payload ??
Distance... BHX to ORD 3,860 MILES
Max range 757-200W 4,020 MILES .
You have to factor in at least 30 mins holding fuel for possible diversion too don't forget. So as I say tight to say the least
Think Berlin flts are weight restricted ?
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Monarch/Avro/Cosmos Summer 2015
The IT flights operated by Monarch during Summer 2014 to CFU, RHO and ZTH are now showing as being operated by a based Small Planet Airlines aircraft for S15. Flights to PVK are still showing as MON flights. Plenty of time for things to change
The IT flights operated by Monarch during Summer 2014 to CFU, RHO and ZTH are now showing as being operated by a based Small Planet Airlines aircraft for S15. Flights to PVK are still showing as MON flights. Plenty of time for things to change
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Groundhog box,
How would that work alternate days PHL, ORD thats 2 separate US bases and surely far too many seats to fill on an A333..we couldn't fill the 757, unless its a cargo thing ?
Would be great , still think it would be an AA 757 JFK announcement if it comes ,hope Im wrong and its reintroduction of ORD.
Nigel
How would that work alternate days PHL, ORD thats 2 separate US bases and surely far too many seats to fill on an A333..we couldn't fill the 757, unless its a cargo thing ?
Would be great , still think it would be an AA 757 JFK announcement if it comes ,hope Im wrong and its reintroduction of ORD.
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BAW 787
I think the 787 was a fuel diversion due to holding and delays into LHR this morning although I am not aware of that many other flights diverting.
My question is,although possibly the wrong thread to ask it on is could fuel be a bit tight on the Austin to London route for a 787?? I ask as this is the second time this flight has put into Brum due to delays at LHR in a few weeks.
Just curious!!!
My question is,although possibly the wrong thread to ask it on is could fuel be a bit tight on the Austin to London route for a 787?? I ask as this is the second time this flight has put into Brum due to delays at LHR in a few weeks.
Just curious!!!
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US - PHL
If memory serves correct load factor wasn't the issue, it was the yield. Remember though that was back in 2009 at the height of global economic downturn. Five years on have things recovered enough to try again? The runway extension could also help with ORD/cargo as the 767 sometimes struggled in the summer months.
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US/AA
Load factor to PHL was always very high, maybe if they went for yield instead of load factor it would still be operating. When we went to CLT they were talking about CLT-BHX with the A333, but things seemed to change very quickly during late summer and the pullout was total and very quick.
The ORD cargo problem was down to operating standard 762's, when they sent an ER or the 763 there wasn't an issue, very similar to AI not being able to take any baggage on the standard 772 out of BHX yet the ER would take everything you could put on it.
The ORD cargo problem was down to operating standard 762's, when they sent an ER or the 763 there wasn't an issue, very similar to AI not being able to take any baggage on the standard 772 out of BHX yet the ER would take everything you could put on it.
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4U HAM_BHX
Currently doing BHX-HAM returns once weekly, the loads during weekdays continue to be relatively light, maybe around 50%-60% early in the week at very attractive prices for the last few weeks (I assume an early effect of competition to come with BE). I am very curious how this will develop with BE's daily service as of next week (with 4U's and BE's BHX-HAM segment within an hour of each other).
Elsewhere it looks like Mahan Air have chosen LGW instead of BHX to operate their flights with a A343. But they may have chosen BHX as a diversion according to the article.
Aviator ? Aviator signs contract with Mahan Air
Aviator ? Aviator signs contract with Mahan Air