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Indeed they did have some oil hedged and probably at a higher rate than the current market rate but this surely would have been more prominent this last summer. If your maths are up to it then you can work it out at $1055 per tonne for H1 2014/5. I am getting on a bit but I doubt fuel would be much of a problem on Dash 8 routes but maybe on the longer jet routes. Berlin burns about 2.5, I believe.
Whatever they are hedged at, why start Oslo & Hamburg for a few months?
Norwegian
Madrid and Malaga, great and Barcelona is interesting. BHX has had three operators on a route in the past and it has usually ended in tears so four will be a big ask................The equivalent of three daily to BCN in August!
Turkish
Now sorted in GDS with the extra Friday and Saturday flight showing from 3rd April 2015
American
Definitely now only displaying to 1 November at present. Fares albeit high were loaded to 5th a couple of days ago.
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Indeed they did have some oil hedged and probably at a higher rate than the current market rate but this surely would have been more prominent this last summer. If your maths are up to it then you can work it out at $1055 per tonne for H1 2014/5. I am getting on a bit but I doubt fuel would be much of a problem on Dash 8 routes but maybe on the longer jet routes. Berlin burns about 2.5, I believe.
Whatever they are hedged at, why start Oslo & Hamburg for a few months?
Norwegian
Madrid and Malaga, great and Barcelona is interesting. BHX has had three operators on a route in the past and it has usually ended in tears so four will be a big ask................The equivalent of three daily to BCN in August!
Turkish
Now sorted in GDS with the extra Friday and Saturday flight showing from 3rd April 2015
American
Definitely now only displaying to 1 November at present. Fares albeit high were loaded to 5th a couple of days ago.
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S15 Update
Monarch currently showing 8 aircraft based all week, with only 7 required on a Wednesday
Denim Air are showing a based F100 at weekends, currently with slots to Innsbruck on Saturdays for Inghams
08:00/18:25 DNM7001/7004 23MAY-26SEP
The aircraft operates a 'W' pattern through Manchester. Estonian are showing on the Saturday Salzburg service
Monarch currently showing 8 aircraft based all week, with only 7 required on a Wednesday
Denim Air are showing a based F100 at weekends, currently with slots to Innsbruck on Saturdays for Inghams
08:00/18:25 DNM7001/7004 23MAY-26SEP
The aircraft operates a 'W' pattern through Manchester. Estonian are showing on the Saturday Salzburg service
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Porto appears in Ryanair's drop-down list of destinations when you try to edit a search on their website. Is this a possible return to the route and thus competition for Flybe?
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Porto has been in the FR drop down list of destinations from BHX since they dropped it so I don't think it means they are going to re-start the route. In any case since when did FR actually start a new route at BHX.....
Have been looking at Norwegian website there are some very keen fares for BHX-MAD and BCN. I really hope these routes do well and persuade DY to set up more routes from BHX, they have very modern aircraft and excellent service on board having flown with them from LGW before.
All we need now is an additional MEB route (come on QR!) or frequency (come on EK!) and the return of China Southern charters and summer 15 looks set fair at BHX (well for now at least....)
Have been looking at Norwegian website there are some very keen fares for BHX-MAD and BCN. I really hope these routes do well and persuade DY to set up more routes from BHX, they have very modern aircraft and excellent service on board having flown with them from LGW before.
All we need now is an additional MEB route (come on QR!) or frequency (come on EK!) and the return of China Southern charters and summer 15 looks set fair at BHX (well for now at least....)
Birmingham - In Top 10 World Cities to Visit !
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Birmingham 2014
Birmingham is a great city, it has a fantastic airport too. Lots to be positive about in 2014 and for 2015. 2014 has seen passenger numbers up significantly month on month. 2015 new holiday choices and destinations for Thomson and an extra based aircraft from Thomas Cook. American new long haul route to JFK, Air India daily from this Sunday, Iceland Air start in the new year, with easy one stop to USA. Turkish Istanbul up to 12 a week, Veuling to Barcelona and great news about Norweigian starting new routes hopfully just the start for them. Balancing this Flybes fleet changes mean in the short term routes have been lost. Hopefully EK will have good news soon. 2015 at Birmingham Airport looks good. It would be good if others recognised positive steps of course many here aren't what they seem or have a hidden agenda.
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Daza.
I can not see a hidden agenda. I can see a reporting of facts, new routes secured and routes lost.
On the subject of summer 2015 yes there are some big positives as you have listed but the negatives also need reporting and discussion as well. Hopefully more big positives to come.
The Flybe route losses will impact and the original Thomson increases that you mention have all but been wiped out on subsequent brochure releases.
Whilst Vueling and Norwegian are good why have they both gone for Barcelona making 4 carriers on the route. Positive yet sure to end in tears for one or two.
Centre cites
I can not see a hidden agenda. I can see a reporting of facts, new routes secured and routes lost.
On the subject of summer 2015 yes there are some big positives as you have listed but the negatives also need reporting and discussion as well. Hopefully more big positives to come.
The Flybe route losses will impact and the original Thomson increases that you mention have all but been wiped out on subsequent brochure releases.
Whilst Vueling and Norwegian are good why have they both gone for Barcelona making 4 carriers on the route. Positive yet sure to end in tears for one or two.
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Well as long as the biggest route by pax numbers aircraft movements and avail seats continues to boom, DUB, then I can see S15 being good for BHX
Suspect DUB is booming due preclearance , low fares with RYR etc and EI offering good prices for connections to US.
BHX like MAN s/b campaigning to get this option it would benefit airports where US carriers operate from one terminal so there would be a competitive advantage over dominance of LHR without being seen to be anti competitive.
Suspect DUB is booming due preclearance , low fares with RYR etc and EI offering good prices for connections to US.
BHX like MAN s/b campaigning to get this option it would benefit airports where US carriers operate from one terminal so there would be a competitive advantage over dominance of LHR without being seen to be anti competitive.
Whilst it is excellent news on the short haul side especially with DY re establishing itself in the Midlands, and I'm sure there will be other routes to follow given time, my comments were addressed at the expense of extending the runway when no long haul carriers use it to its full potential. That's all!
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Whilst it is excellent news on the short haul side especially with DY re establishing itself in the Midlands, and I'm sure there will be other routes to follow given time, my comments were addressed at the expense of extending the runway when no long haul carriers use it to its full potential. That's all!
I'm thinking here not only of BHX, but EMA and also MAN - then there's Stansted that finds little use for it's 3000m runway - in terms of flights that actually require the length to operate from the airport.
The extended runway gives the airport the flexibility to attract longer haul flights, but as 747s get superceded by the shorter field twins, then the requirement for 3000m runways will diminish, but this no way belittles BHX's extending of 15/33.
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Daza Centrecities.
Daza overall an excellent year for BHX and next year looks even better.
However not sure all the Fly Be cuts are all to do with aircraft changes.
Agree with Centrcities ,this is a discussion Forum and we shouldn't be looking at trying to wag fingers at people who report both good and some bad.
Censorship on a forum like this would be regrettable !
Looking forward to BHX having a great year in 2015 and this being reported on here as it develops. Also looking forward to discussing if BHX gets any bad news and peoples views on that too.
Nigel
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Daza overall an excellent year for BHX and next year looks even better.
However not sure all the Fly Be cuts are all to do with aircraft changes.
Agree with Centrcities ,this is a discussion Forum and we shouldn't be looking at trying to wag fingers at people who report both good and some bad.
Censorship on a forum like this would be regrettable !
Looking forward to BHX having a great year in 2015 and this being reported on here as it develops. Also looking forward to discussing if BHX gets any bad news and peoples views on that too.
Nigel
Nigel
No aircraft will use a full runway to take off (not safely anyway), but at MAN the VS B744's and now the CX B777's get plenty of tarmac usage, not to mention the A380.
What I was inferring was that none of the airports really (yet) gets it's monies worth from the expensive tarmac that they've put down, rather than looking for aircraft to scrape off the end after a 3000m take-off run; to do so would be a miscalculation.
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BHX like MAN s/b campaigning to get this option it would benefit airports where US carriers operate from one terminal so there would be a competitive advantage over dominance of LHR without being seen to be anti competitive.
It would be very difficult if not impossible to do at LHR.
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I understood there has been a suggestion that the US would like further pre clearance points, the stumbling block may be the UK government allowing it rather than the Americans.