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Many years ago BHX had a thriving overnight parcel operation with many aircraft and airlines and could have been the hub for the TNT operation (their HQ being atherstone ) but all overnight freight ops were shood away to Coventry or east midlands , with just FedEx remaining to this day and are the great survivor , so BHX could just concentrate on the bread and butter scheduled or charter passenger flights , indeed BHX's expansion had to be offset with restrictions on night time movements pro-rata. It has never been the same since apart from one remaining handler who does very well in the ad-hoc priority cargo business.
If this Asian cargo flight did operate it would not necessarily have to be night time (FRA has a total night curfew ) but it just doesn't fit into BHX's agenda.
If this Asian cargo flight did operate it would not necessarily have to be night time (FRA has a total night curfew ) but it just doesn't fit into BHX's agenda.
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I couldn't see BHX actually having room for a B77F, it just doesn't seem right for us to get one over EMA who actually have a decent freight network and not many restrictions over slots and noise.
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The proposed freighter flight was said to be linked to MG, flying in parts made on all those machines they shipped to China when Longbridge shut.
MG doesn't seem to be doing as well as planned so maybe the freighter is on hold until demand picks up, if ever.
MG doesn't seem to be doing as well as planned so maybe the freighter is on hold until demand picks up, if ever.
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MG doesn't seem to be doing as well as planned....
I don't think that is an accurate assessment of MG performance at the present time. The latest news article i saw referred to them as having opened a record number of dealerships throughout the UK with vehicle sales also hitting a record high.
I suppose it is a question of which assessment is right, if it is the view i have expressed then perhaps incoming cargo freight is still a possibility.
I suppose it is a question of which assessment is right, if it is the view i have expressed then perhaps incoming cargo freight is still a possibility.
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All in the eye of the beholder with MG, October new car registrations were 188 which is obviously a miniscule proportion of the market. Year on Year sales are at a record high but obviously from such a low base its almost meaningless. A little over 2,000 cars this year.
No way would it sustain any substantive freight ops other than occasional deliveries. The majority of the car is pre-assembled in China with just final assembly taking place in the UK.
No way would it sustain any substantive freight ops other than occasional deliveries. The majority of the car is pre-assembled in China with just final assembly taking place in the UK.
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Transfer Facility
After all the PR puff (and cost!!!) of the transfer facility, has anyone actually seen it in operation? Every time I arrive on the new pier the "facility" is well and truly closed.
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I think the transfer facility should be seen as a longer term investment, just like the runway. In essence the airport can now go to potential airlines and use the transfer facility as additional selling point.
Other than that I cannot imagine much connecting traffic outside maybe the mid-morning BE arrivals (e.g. from MXP, STR, HAJ) on to Scotland and N.I. on BE, and the same return for the early evening depatures to the same continental destinations.
Having said that - is there any provision for a border control in the transfer facility?
Other than that I cannot imagine much connecting traffic outside maybe the mid-morning BE arrivals (e.g. from MXP, STR, HAJ) on to Scotland and N.I. on BE, and the same return for the early evening depatures to the same continental destinations.
Having said that - is there any provision for a border control in the transfer facility?
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Transfer Facility
After all the PR puff (and cost!!!) of the transfer facility, has anyone actually seen it in operation? Every time I arrive on the new pier the "facility" is well and truly closed.
After all the PR puff (and cost!!!) of the transfer facility, has anyone actually seen it in operation? Every time I arrive on the new pier the "facility" is well and truly closed.
I think the transfer facility should be seen as a longer term investment, just like the runway. In essence the airport can now go to potential airlines and use the transfer facility as additional selling point.
Other than that I cannot imagine much connecting traffic outside maybe the mid-morning BE arrivals (e.g. from MXP, STR, HAJ) on to Scotland and N.I. on BE, and the same return for the early evening depatures to the same continental destinations.
Having said that - is there any provision for a border control in the transfer facility?
Other than that I cannot imagine much connecting traffic outside maybe the mid-morning BE arrivals (e.g. from MXP, STR, HAJ) on to Scotland and N.I. on BE, and the same return for the early evening depatures to the same continental destinations.
Having said that - is there any provision for a border control in the transfer facility?
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I agree that a transfer facility would make some sense for BE connections. However, the new facility is at the top end of the new international pier in T1, so absolutely useless for BE in T2.
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Not quite right bob. I arrived at the old T2 from TLS last night on a delayed arrival and during the flight a number of pax that had onward transfers were made known to the Flybe staff so they could be rushed through when we landed. The transfer facility was clearly signed after baggage reclaim and before the exit to the arrivals hall.
One more point :
In my opinion the BHX-TLS should go back to daily from S15 and be operated by an E-jet , 2 hours is just too long on one of those dash 8 things . There was at least 50-60 pax on each flight , and this for the end of November, means it is an important year round route . Maybe airbus links with rolls Royce at derby helping.
One more point :
In my opinion the BHX-TLS should go back to daily from S15 and be operated by an E-jet , 2 hours is just too long on one of those dash 8 things . There was at least 50-60 pax on each flight , and this for the end of November, means it is an important year round route . Maybe airbus links with rolls Royce at derby helping.
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Is there any info of a new tennant for the ex Eurojet hangar? There was a rumour that Flairjet/Marshalls were due to move in but that doesn't seem to have happened. It's been empty for a while now.
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Eurowings
Eurowings will start switching from Canadair 900 to Airbus 320 mid-February.
Lufthansa spokesman says that some regional routes will disappear as a result (HAM-FMM and TXL-FMM making the start).
As it happens I am booked on 4U BHX-HAM on 15Feb, which currently shows as a Germanwings A319 rather than the expected Eurowings CRJ900. However, currently a one-off in the schedule as far as I can tell. I cannot yet see 4U doing a six-weekly A319/320 run on HAM-BHX during summer... but maybe I lack imagination.
On DUS-BHX they could arguably cut down from 3 CRJ900 flights to 2 A319/320 ones, but that would be against a 4 daily BE service...
Lufthansa spokesman says that some regional routes will disappear as a result (HAM-FMM and TXL-FMM making the start).
As it happens I am booked on 4U BHX-HAM on 15Feb, which currently shows as a Germanwings A319 rather than the expected Eurowings CRJ900. However, currently a one-off in the schedule as far as I can tell. I cannot yet see 4U doing a six-weekly A319/320 run on HAM-BHX during summer... but maybe I lack imagination.
On DUS-BHX they could arguably cut down from 3 CRJ900 flights to 2 A319/320 ones, but that would be against a 4 daily BE service...
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Bob :
It may not be a separate transfer facility in T2 but just a corridor connection to the new transfer facility that has been created near the central area.
Insuindi :
The BHX-HAM has been upgraded to an A319 on sundays only between 07/12/14 - 15/2/15 , you may have noticed that as a result the times have changed to mid afternoon.
It may not be a separate transfer facility in T2 but just a corridor connection to the new transfer facility that has been created near the central area.
Insuindi :
The BHX-HAM has been upgraded to an A319 on sundays only between 07/12/14 - 15/2/15 , you may have noticed that as a result the times have changed to mid afternoon.
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I am a regular on the DUS-BHX route. I have generally favoured the CRJ-900 operation because of the timings. I too am fearful that, at an average of 50-60 pax per flight at present, the change to Airbus will result in a frequency reduction. Guess I will have to switch to Flybe!
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The transfer facility I am talking about (two x ray machines and a walk through metal detector) is at the terminal end of the "new" international pier just before the steps down to immigration. I do not believe it is possible to get there from T2 as the entire first floor between T1 and T2 is taken up by the security area, the Servisair lounge and the corridor for pax to get to T2 after security.
If they opened up a post security entrance to T2 at the left side of the security area then you could have a secure corridor between T1 and T2 but to do that would (a) be far too sensible and convenient and (b) anger the great gods of retail who demand that all passengers have to pass through the temple.
The transfer facility I am talking about (two x ray machines and a walk through metal detector) is at the terminal end of the "new" international pier just before the steps down to immigration. I do not believe it is possible to get there from T2 as the entire first floor between T1 and T2 is taken up by the security area, the Servisair lounge and the corridor for pax to get to T2 after security.
If they opened up a post security entrance to T2 at the left side of the security area then you could have a secure corridor between T1 and T2 but to do that would (a) be far too sensible and convenient and (b) anger the great gods of retail who demand that all passengers have to pass through the temple.
Looks like a third EK service may be on its way to BHX. There seems to be a lot of chatter on certain forums reflecting this. As to what aircraft operates what lets wait and see what happens.
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Thomson Long-haul 2015/6
flight only showing an increase with Cancun staying twice a week.
Monday & Thursday Cancun
Tuesday & Wednesday Montego Bay (Tue just from Christmas)
Sunday Sanford then Bridgetown as this year
I assume Friday and Saturday Cruise flights as this year.
This winter has seen short-haul fairly late consolidations with Funchel and the Thursday Las Palmas reduced and today both 738's operating at times with the 757's parked or re-timed.
Yet Wednesday usually one of the quietest day of the week usually saw six flights using six aircraft including the 788 and an away based 738 from Enfidha.
However I am convinced the original schedule was arranged that one of the based flights aircraft was to operate RVN then FUE with the latter due back at 00.50 and the night closure delayed I assume in advance with BHX's agreement.
However they used four different aircraft with a spare 738 sitting on the ground until its schedule departure of early afternoon on the 757 flight to FUE, arriving back at 00.10 The week before the FUE arrived back early evening and I wonder how far in advance the airport new of the seemingly changed Thomson aircraft schedule?
Crewmeal
Rumours abound re EK but nothing substantial as yet.
Pete
Monday & Thursday Cancun
Tuesday & Wednesday Montego Bay (Tue just from Christmas)
Sunday Sanford then Bridgetown as this year
I assume Friday and Saturday Cruise flights as this year.
This winter has seen short-haul fairly late consolidations with Funchel and the Thursday Las Palmas reduced and today both 738's operating at times with the 757's parked or re-timed.
Yet Wednesday usually one of the quietest day of the week usually saw six flights using six aircraft including the 788 and an away based 738 from Enfidha.
However I am convinced the original schedule was arranged that one of the based flights aircraft was to operate RVN then FUE with the latter due back at 00.50 and the night closure delayed I assume in advance with BHX's agreement.
However they used four different aircraft with a spare 738 sitting on the ground until its schedule departure of early afternoon on the 757 flight to FUE, arriving back at 00.10 The week before the FUE arrived back early evening and I wonder how far in advance the airport new of the seemingly changed Thomson aircraft schedule?
Crewmeal
Rumours abound re EK but nothing substantial as yet.
Pete
