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Is Manchester finally about to get the much coveted West Coast USA link?
Los Angeles has appeared as a direct MAN destination on the Thomas Cook website, in exactly the same way Miami and JFK appeared before they were announced.
Would be amazing if this comes to fruition, and TCX 2 weekly is probably as much as MAN could manage realistically.
Lets keep our eyes peeled.
Los Angeles has appeared as a direct MAN destination on the Thomas Cook website, in exactly the same way Miami and JFK appeared before they were announced.
Would be amazing if this comes to fruition, and TCX 2 weekly is probably as much as MAN could manage realistically.
Lets keep our eyes peeled.
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Rumours that tomorrow Norwegian will announce a MAN-Canary isle route.
Norwegian have gone as far as confirming 4 new routes for W14 will be announced tomorrow from the UK. They will be 2 sun routes, 2 ski routes. I would imagine the ski routes are firmly LGW territory, but, the 2 sun routes could be up for anyone to grab.
Norwegian have gone as far as confirming 4 new routes for W14 will be announced tomorrow from the UK. They will be 2 sun routes, 2 ski routes. I would imagine the ski routes are firmly LGW territory, but, the 2 sun routes could be up for anyone to grab.
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Then it will be MAN-TFS and MAN-LPA. Both these Canary Islands airports have Norwegian Air Shuttle bases, mainly with Spanish crew
Air Canada Rouge
When I left the UK 2 weeks ago on AC Rouge, not one single Rouge departure had been dispatched on time- despite the aircraft arriving at MAN on time.
I was told that Swissport had problems with the Air Canada "system" that affects check in. Does anyone know if this is resolved yet or are they still leaving late?
I was on one of the "better" days & made my connection at YYZ by less than one minute.
I would not have expected such severe disruption to check in a flight. I'd be interested to know what the problem is.
I was told that Swissport had problems with the Air Canada "system" that affects check in. Does anyone know if this is resolved yet or are they still leaving late?
I was on one of the "better" days & made my connection at YYZ by less than one minute.
I would not have expected such severe disruption to check in a flight. I'd be interested to know what the problem is.
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It seems the Norwegian rumour was a duff one, yet again! It seems the Norwegian stagnation/retraction in the North West continues for the time being.
(The new routes were Grenoble, La Palma, Funchal and Salzburg, not from MAN obviously)
(The new routes were Grenoble, La Palma, Funchal and Salzburg, not from MAN obviously)
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Can't understand why this Norwegian rumour keeps cropping up. There were stories of based crew and 2 a/c at one stage. Is it possible something was a foot but they then changed their mind? As you say, the hard evidence is that all they've done is reduced frequencies at MAN and pulled LPL-CP.
Do I take it the the 4 new routes are all LGW? (Edit: I see from the Gatwick thread they are).
On the topic of rumours LAX LHR, is there any more indication Vueling might be considering MAN and other UK airports?
Do I take it the the 4 new routes are all LGW? (Edit: I see from the Gatwick thread they are).
On the topic of rumours LAX LHR, is there any more indication Vueling might be considering MAN and other UK airports?
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Can't understand why this Norwegian rumour keeps cropping up.
I genuinely do not know what the future holds for Norwegian at MAN. ARN has come down from a peak of 5 weekly to 2 weekly, OSL down from 4 to 3 and SVG staying at 2 weekly (although that's probably as much as it needs). CPH was pulled from LPL and never seen again, but, at a low frequency against 2 other strong carriers, Im guessing DY wouldn't touch with a barge pole.
If they cant even expand what they have got, let alone start new routes, then to me, a base is a definite 'unlikely' in my eyes.
is there any more indication Vueling might be considering MAN and other UK airports?
Before it was taken down, no start date was loaded, but fares from £29.99 were loaded. January seemed to be when it was accepting and loading fare buckets.
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Maybe the scandinavian market isn't holding up for MAN? London is the big destination for most scandinavians, Edinburgh probably gets high up as well but most people have probably never considered to go to Manchester. Instead you go for a weekend in london, go to dublin for the beer, or go to Edinburgh to be "cultured".
Manchester does have a lot to offer, and I'm sure it could be a very popular destination for scandinavians. It offers a big city (no the size of london, but still big compared to most scandinavian cities) and most of the things all the 3 mentioned above offer. I think it's also cheaper to visit than the 3 above mentioned cities. However at the moment, I think few have considered Manchester in that way.
Maybe this is emphasised by two routes that I think (anyone with more info?) are doing very well, the BA sunair operated routes to Billund and Gothenburg. They're small aircraft but from what I've understood they have a good load factor, and I assume they attract a lot of business travel.
I'm sure there is a potential in the scandinavian routes, but at the moment they don't seem to be doing great.
And as with all my posts, I know very little about this, the above is just my own speculation mainly based on personal experiences rather than facts and numbers. Any other thoughts always appreciated
Manchester does have a lot to offer, and I'm sure it could be a very popular destination for scandinavians. It offers a big city (no the size of london, but still big compared to most scandinavian cities) and most of the things all the 3 mentioned above offer. I think it's also cheaper to visit than the 3 above mentioned cities. However at the moment, I think few have considered Manchester in that way.
Maybe this is emphasised by two routes that I think (anyone with more info?) are doing very well, the BA sunair operated routes to Billund and Gothenburg. They're small aircraft but from what I've understood they have a good load factor, and I assume they attract a lot of business travel.
I'm sure there is a potential in the scandinavian routes, but at the moment they don't seem to be doing great.
And as with all my posts, I know very little about this, the above is just my own speculation mainly based on personal experiences rather than facts and numbers. Any other thoughts always appreciated
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I'm sure there is a potential in the scandinavian routes, but at the moment
they don't seem to be doing great.
they don't seem to be doing great.
There are bases at LPA/TFS/MAD and BCN?. They also offer Malaga to MUC/CGN so, the scope widens. Also a potential site for a base. Yes, some routes already have a lot of traffic, but many routes do not (MAD/LPA/TFS/VIE/IBZ), and lets face it, with their OTP and things like wifi, it would offer a competitive edge to some carriers.
It also offers seats for TUI, so, another potential source of passengers on any MAN-Sun route.
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Quote: "I wonder if the new Easyjet base at Porto, to be announced tomorrow, will yield a route to Manchester?"
It did cross my mind too. Ryanair fly to Oporto from LPL (but not EZY). I've no idea how that route does but might check the CAA figures. EZY seem a little cautious about MAN expansion just at the moment after the 2 extra based a/c we got last year, although the recently announced Madeira route is very welcome.
It did cross my mind too. Ryanair fly to Oporto from LPL (but not EZY). I've no idea how that route does but might check the CAA figures. EZY seem a little cautious about MAN expansion just at the moment after the 2 extra based a/c we got last year, although the recently announced Madeira route is very welcome.
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Awful lot of bunkum that LHR is purely a business airport, let's be clear, it isn't !
By providing a service Ex Manchester Thomas Cook could conceivably cream off a lot of tourist traffic to LAX that routinely uses Heathrow......
By providing a service Ex Manchester Thomas Cook could conceivably cream off a lot of tourist traffic to LAX that routinely uses Heathrow......
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What's with all the angst that Norwegian AREN'T starting flights from the Canary Islands to MAN?
Those routes are more than adequately served with countless departures a day.
Furthermore they are on British based aircraft, providing local British jobs and flown by British crew.
The only people who might think that Norwegian jumping in is a good thing are probably plane spotters so they can get their fleet books up to date.
Those routes are more than adequately served with countless departures a day.
Furthermore they are on British based aircraft, providing local British jobs and flown by British crew.
The only people who might think that Norwegian jumping in is a good thing are probably plane spotters so they can get their fleet books up to date.
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The only people who might think that Norwegian jumping in is a good thing are probably plane spotters so they can get their fleet books up to date
As for British jobs. More flights = increased chance of a base = more jobs. Lets not forget the ground jobs ANY extra flights create.
Lets not pretend this is just a plane spotting thing.
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Maybe this is emphasised by two routes that I think (anyone with more info?) are doing very well, the BA sunair operated routes to Billund and Gothenburg. They're small aircraft but from what I've understood they have a good load factor, and I assume they attract a lot of business travel.
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EasyJet starts base on Schiphol - more flights on MAN?
EasyJet is expanding @ AMS by creating a base of 3 planes wanting to increase from 3,5 to 7 million passengers annually. Wonder if they might want to compete with KLM on MAN (and other airports) by expanding their double daily flights?
source (in dutch): 'EasyJet-basis met minstens drie toestellen op Schiphol' | Luchtvaartnieuws
source (in dutch): 'EasyJet-basis met minstens drie toestellen op Schiphol' | Luchtvaartnieuws
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Quoting LAX LHR
"Or perhaps passengers who may prefer the Norwegian brand perhaps?"
An interesting point about brand preference. Linking that to Bagso's point about a potential TCX service to LAX creaming off some of the leisure traffic that currently flies via LHR, (or possibly via US hubs) from MAN, I wonder if all leisure pax would necessarily choose that type of direct, non-stop flight to the US West Coast. I guess many folk are not too concerned about which airline, but for some brand preference is important.
3 years ago, my good lady and I booked a fly-drive holiday to California through a travel agent with BA, going into SFO but returning from LAX. It worked out fine. If we were to repeat that holiday, I just don't know whether we would automatically use a TCX direct flight if it existed. Price is evidently important, but so is comfort, service, reliability and frequency. Such a service could of course attract new passengers who may not previously have considered California and from a wider region, but could there be be greater potential with say 2 x weekly flights to both LAX and SFO to attract the more adventurous traveller and not just those focused on Disneyland, Hollywood etc?
"Or perhaps passengers who may prefer the Norwegian brand perhaps?"
An interesting point about brand preference. Linking that to Bagso's point about a potential TCX service to LAX creaming off some of the leisure traffic that currently flies via LHR, (or possibly via US hubs) from MAN, I wonder if all leisure pax would necessarily choose that type of direct, non-stop flight to the US West Coast. I guess many folk are not too concerned about which airline, but for some brand preference is important.
3 years ago, my good lady and I booked a fly-drive holiday to California through a travel agent with BA, going into SFO but returning from LAX. It worked out fine. If we were to repeat that holiday, I just don't know whether we would automatically use a TCX direct flight if it existed. Price is evidently important, but so is comfort, service, reliability and frequency. Such a service could of course attract new passengers who may not previously have considered California and from a wider region, but could there be be greater potential with say 2 x weekly flights to both LAX and SFO to attract the more adventurous traveller and not just those focused on Disneyland, Hollywood etc?
I think it is clear that the new TCX routes, welcome as they are, will be quasi-charters. I.e full of people who perhaps haven't the confidence or the will to organise holidays for themselves. That said, a lot of people still value direct flights.
I also agree with the sentiments about Norwegian. It is no good simply flooding already saturated routes. It helps no one. Not the new entrants, the incumbents or the airport.
I also agree with the sentiments about Norwegian. It is no good simply flooding already saturated routes. It helps no one. Not the new entrants, the incumbents or the airport.