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I thought that it was more to do with "the unmentionable" not wanting their employment T&C'S and contract/lifestyle info being talked about on the pilot Middle East forum, but what do I know??
Getting on my soapbox, but last time I looked we still had free speech in this country!! If the unmentionable or any other foreign airline/company/tourist doesn't like that then tough, but that's how this country roles!!
When I travel to the ME or any other country I abide by the rules they set as its their country, they run it how they want and I deal with it.
Here in the UK it's free speech deal with it!
Getting off soap box.
Getting on my soapbox, but last time I looked we still had free speech in this country!! If the unmentionable or any other foreign airline/company/tourist doesn't like that then tough, but that's how this country roles!!
When I travel to the ME or any other country I abide by the rules they set as its their country, they run it how they want and I deal with it.
Here in the UK it's free speech deal with it!
Getting off soap box.
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Brian Fantana, you are on the Internet now and using the expression "this country" isn't the best to use. This website is American, and the owner is Internet Brands Inc. in California, USA. Hence American laws is applied to this site, and with that you bear personal responsibility for what you say and you can be sued of private companies according to US law.
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Curious attitude by the er unmentionable, that normally likes to court publicity though. Perhaps the best way to deal with this issue is to make sure you use one of their many competitors when flying out of Manchester 
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The Iad Airways should learn that money can't always buy silence, even with all the lawyers in the world. If they are offering poor terms and conditions (and that could be cultural as well as financial) or anything else that causes employees to gripe on the Internet then perhaps their best bet would be to improve their offering. I'm lucky enough to not have to work for them and reading about their attitudes and culture makes me glad that's so.
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big queues reported this morning. out of the terminal and into the car parks
Forward planning
Anyone know if it's just a T1 thing or does T2 suffer with the added security for westbounds (DAL/VIR/TOM/UAL)?
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Yes, BBC North West Today reported the queues as well.
In the M.E.N. comments by the airport spokesperson included:
“This morning in Terminal One we saw a build-up of passengers at security but kept the queue moving at all times by opening more security lanes and adding more resources".
It's not surprising if the question is asked: why weren't all security lanes open earlier? The impression is given that only when the queue gets very long is action taken, rather than anticipating the problem to try and prevent queues becoming too long in the first place. And as betablockeruk implies, it's a bit late in the season to start thinking about extra security staff. The airport were aware of the pax increase in MAY, airline schedules and must surely have information about booking levels and terminal throughput.
To be fair, there was no comment that I saw as to how long it was taking passengers to get through security, and given the limited space for queues inside the terminal (I assume the queue goes straight outside from the security channel entry point rather than snaking round inside the terminal causing more mayhem), the length of the queue may be slightly deceptive.
In the M.E.N. comments by the airport spokesperson included:
“This morning in Terminal One we saw a build-up of passengers at security but kept the queue moving at all times by opening more security lanes and adding more resources".
It's not surprising if the question is asked: why weren't all security lanes open earlier? The impression is given that only when the queue gets very long is action taken, rather than anticipating the problem to try and prevent queues becoming too long in the first place. And as betablockeruk implies, it's a bit late in the season to start thinking about extra security staff. The airport were aware of the pax increase in MAY, airline schedules and must surely have information about booking levels and terminal throughput.
To be fair, there was no comment that I saw as to how long it was taking passengers to get through security, and given the limited space for queues inside the terminal (I assume the queue goes straight outside from the security channel entry point rather than snaking round inside the terminal causing more mayhem), the length of the queue may be slightly deceptive.
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Never known so many new starters at MAN. By my reckoning there have been 150 new security already, 20 more just finishing training and 20 more in the next couple of weeks. It's never ending...
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eggc, thanks for that information. Are you able to say whether they are all additional security staff, or are some replacing leavers?
As regards additional checks on electronic devices for certain destinations, are these being done at the gate? Otherwise, it would mean segregating those pax in some way at, or before, the main security area which I would have thought could create more delays.
As regards additional checks on electronic devices for certain destinations, are these being done at the gate? Otherwise, it would mean segregating those pax in some way at, or before, the main security area which I would have thought could create more delays.
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Not sure on how many are to replace leavers, but safe to say the huge majority are additional. Other departments are taking on just as many too, valet parking and bussing also seeing many additional staff. All good for the local economy The other point to note is that new starters are usually at the start of the summer season, and only for the summer season, but noticing that we're still seeing numerous batches of new starters throughout the year and beyond the end of the summer season, and they all seem to be permanent rather than short term seasonal posts.
The other point to note is that new starters are usually at the start of the summer season, and only for the summer season, but noticing that we're still seeing numerous batches of new starters throughout the year and beyond the end of the summer season, and they all seem to be permanent rather than short term seasonal posts.
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T1 Queues
I was on an Ezy at 0700 and passengers were rushing to the gate saying that it had taken over an hour to get through security.
The queues were zigzagged after security entry and also out of the terminal at one stage.
The queues were zigzagged after security entry and also out of the terminal at one stage.
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According to their online schedule, PIA seem to be operating a new triangle route as LHE-MAN-ISB from August. This makes flights from LHE 5 weekly and to ISB 3 weekly. Going the other way, to LHE is 2 weekly, to ISB is 4 weekly:
PK709 LHE 1405 MAN 1830
PK702 MAN 2110 LHE 0845
B777-300
Flight days for PIA:
LHE-MAN-LHE: Wed, Fri,
LHE-MAN-ISB: Sun
LHE-MAN-JFK: Tue, Sat
ISB-MAN-ISB: Mon, Tue, Thu
PK709 LHE 1405 MAN 1830
PK702 MAN 2110 LHE 0845
B777-300
Flight days for PIA:
LHE-MAN-LHE: Wed, Fri,
LHE-MAN-ISB: Sun
LHE-MAN-JFK: Tue, Sat
ISB-MAN-ISB: Mon, Tue, Thu
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New long haul
Note recent comment on the Belfast thread that VS are expected to start services to MCO from Belfast, LAS from Glasgow together with some changes at MAN with formal announcement by October...........
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Note recent comment on the Belfast thread that VS are expected to start services to MCO from Belfast, LAS from Glasgow together with some changes at MAN with formal announcement by October...........
But, on the flipside, the new JV with Delta, and TCX starting to push forward, could we about to see a new focus and direction on MAN, with DL? JFK perhaps? Although MAN is strictly leisure based for VS, we know for a fact they have looked at operating HKG, they have said as much themselves. Therefore, one could assume they have also looked into other non leisure routes from MAN?
Interesting times ahead, if the comments in the BFS thread are true.
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"Note recent comment on the Belfast thread that VS are expected to start services to MCO from Belfast, LAS from Glasgow together with some changes at MAN with formal announcement by October..........."
Excuse my pessimism, or is it just being realistic, but unless VS can find a spare a/c from LGW or LHR, is not the most likely scenario that MAN will lose its second a/c in s2015, at least on some days. I think it's 2 x LAS, 1 x BGI and presumably 11 x MCO this summer, so simply dropping MCO to daily would provide 2 flights from both BFS & GLA even allowing for the long LAS sectors and positional flights I would have thought. Out of interest, was there one year when we had 3 x VS flights on certain days or is my memory playing tricks again?
On the other hand, it would be nice to think there's something more positive to come from the VS/DL jv for MAN; another case of wait and see I suppose.
Excuse my pessimism, or is it just being realistic, but unless VS can find a spare a/c from LGW or LHR, is not the most likely scenario that MAN will lose its second a/c in s2015, at least on some days. I think it's 2 x LAS, 1 x BGI and presumably 11 x MCO this summer, so simply dropping MCO to daily would provide 2 flights from both BFS & GLA even allowing for the long LAS sectors and positional flights I would have thought. Out of interest, was there one year when we had 3 x VS flights on certain days or is my memory playing tricks again?
On the other hand, it would be nice to think there's something more positive to come from the VS/DL jv for MAN; another case of wait and see I suppose.
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was there one year when we had 3 x VS flights on certain days or is my memory playing tricks again
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In terms of aircraft availability don't forget that the 787s start arriving in the autumn, so they may be looking at things to use the displaced 340s for instead of retiring them?
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There is no way we will see an A340-600 from VS on a flight from MAN (apart from the one to Kansas City later this month), and the A340-300's may be too premium heavy and inefficient from MAN. It would be more likely that the B787's could appear at MAN, but even them I have doubts about as they seem to be earmarked for LHR services.
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I agree 346 won't come to MAN, much more likely to see 330's back or 787's...that is if we're even to get an extra a/c !
I am booked on VS MAN-MCO in Jan and to gain a couple of extra hours with Mickey we selected the later of the two flights, but I have had a mail from VS saying that we've been moved to the earlier flight as the later one is cancelled.
Hardly peak season though I know, and well before S15, but I do wonder if VS is still filling 11 p/w to MCO any longer...it's so bloody expensive to go these days pax numbers must be effected.
I am booked on VS MAN-MCO in Jan and to gain a couple of extra hours with Mickey we selected the later of the two flights, but I have had a mail from VS saying that we've been moved to the earlier flight as the later one is cancelled.
Hardly peak season though I know, and well before S15, but I do wonder if VS is still filling 11 p/w to MCO any longer...it's so bloody expensive to go these days pax numbers must be effected.
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Ive seen on other sites that Egyptair over the winter is not bookable.
It will still run, this happens every season, in that the flights are not bookable until fairly later on.
This is because MS have to re-apply for the licence every season, as their current CAI-UK agreement only covers LHR, and MAN is always granted per season on a temporary licence. I have no idea why this is the case, and MS are working to get it made permanent, as they are aware that they are loosing bookings in the 'down time', but, they are unwilling to take bookings for flights until the licence is granted, just incase its ever denied for ay reason.
It will still run, this happens every season, in that the flights are not bookable until fairly later on.
This is because MS have to re-apply for the licence every season, as their current CAI-UK agreement only covers LHR, and MAN is always granted per season on a temporary licence. I have no idea why this is the case, and MS are working to get it made permanent, as they are aware that they are loosing bookings in the 'down time', but, they are unwilling to take bookings for flights until the licence is granted, just incase its ever denied for ay reason.