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Notice that DY have MAN-OSL taking a break for 2 months between mid June and mid August. More profitable places to send the aircraft during that time of summer?
LPL-CPH has been cut, MAN-OSL has a 2 month break, MAN-ARN has gone down from 5 weekly in its peak to just 2 weekly. The only route to see no cuts is Stavanger, and I wonder if that is down to the lack of competition?
The talk of a base seems to have died a death, and with the MAD/TFS bases just announced, it could have been a perfect opportunity for Norwegian to try non-Scandic routes from MAN/LPL, but it seems to have been overlooked.
Its a shame really as Norwegian is a great airline, but I just wonder if the North West is too competitive for them? I know LGW has a lot of competition, but, it has the added pull of London.
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Re Thomas Cook / Flybe, did they anticipate this hence the reason why as was said it is a tad "underwhelming".
Although highly unlikely but if say a Norwich - US via Manchester route is a service under threat presumably TC are not going to promote?
I'm surprised however that the tie up wasn't all over the Flybe home page, it seemed a golden opportunity to make some money !
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..would an investment by ETIHAD or EMIRATES assist both parties ?
Example a rebranded Flybe (Emirates UK / ETIHAD UK) would provide tremendous marketing and additional feed from the UKs 3rd tier regional airports to Manchester taking advantage of their three and double daily services respectively .
It would also be much easier to execute Manchester US service as they have pondered in the media !
Although highly unlikely but if say a Norwich - US via Manchester route is a service under threat presumably TC are not going to promote?
I'm surprised however that the tie up wasn't all over the Flybe home page, it seemed a golden opportunity to make some money !
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..would an investment by ETIHAD or EMIRATES assist both parties ?
Example a rebranded Flybe (Emirates UK / ETIHAD UK) would provide tremendous marketing and additional feed from the UKs 3rd tier regional airports to Manchester taking advantage of their three and double daily services respectively .
It would also be much easier to execute Manchester US service as they have pondered in the media !
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Well, by my reckoning MAN will get 3 'new' based aircraft for Summer 2014.
It says based fleet from 10 to 11. So, with 2(?) A300's based here this summer, that means presumably 2xA321 to replace them and then a new based aircraft to bring the total number up. I would also assume the A330 will do some high density work too?
Im sure someone mentioned an A320 based so that GIB can be done on based aircraft, so will based for S14 look like:
1xA330-200
1xB757-200 (charter work) (or is this going this winter too?)
1xA320
8xA321
Current short haul scheduled needs the following based aircraft:
Monday: 10
Tuesday: 9
Wednesday: 7
Thursday, Friday and Saturday: 9
Sunday: 8
So, with 11 based, presumably this means 1x long haul based aircraft, 9 for the scheduled work and 1 for charter work.
Happy to be corrected on any of the above.
It says based fleet from 10 to 11. So, with 2(?) A300's based here this summer, that means presumably 2xA321 to replace them and then a new based aircraft to bring the total number up. I would also assume the A330 will do some high density work too?
Im sure someone mentioned an A320 based so that GIB can be done on based aircraft, so will based for S14 look like:
1xA330-200
1xB757-200 (charter work) (or is this going this winter too?)
1xA320
8xA321
Current short haul scheduled needs the following based aircraft:
Monday: 10
Tuesday: 9
Wednesday: 7
Thursday, Friday and Saturday: 9
Sunday: 8
So, with 11 based, presumably this means 1x long haul based aircraft, 9 for the scheduled work and 1 for charter work.
Happy to be corrected on any of the above.
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Well, by my reckoning MAN will get 3 'new' based aircraft for Summer 2014.
It says based fleet from 10 to 11. So, with 2(?) A300's based here this summer, that means presumably 2xA321 to replace them and then a new based aircraft to bring the total number up. I would also assume the A330 will do some high density work too?
Im sure someone mentioned an A320 based so that GIB can be done on based aircraft, so will based for S14 look like:
1xA330-200
1xB757-200 (charter work) (or is this going this winter too?)
1xA320
8xA321
Current short haul scheduled needs the following based aircraft:
Monday: 10
Tuesday: 9
Wednesday: 7
Thursday, Friday and Saturday: 9
Sunday: 8
So, with 11 based, presumably this means 1x long haul based aircraft, 9 for the scheduled work and 1 for charter work.
Happy to be corrected on any of the above.
It says based fleet from 10 to 11. So, with 2(?) A300's based here this summer, that means presumably 2xA321 to replace them and then a new based aircraft to bring the total number up. I would also assume the A330 will do some high density work too?
Im sure someone mentioned an A320 based so that GIB can be done on based aircraft, so will based for S14 look like:
1xA330-200
1xB757-200 (charter work) (or is this going this winter too?)
1xA320
8xA321
Current short haul scheduled needs the following based aircraft:
Monday: 10
Tuesday: 9
Wednesday: 7
Thursday, Friday and Saturday: 9
Sunday: 8
So, with 11 based, presumably this means 1x long haul based aircraft, 9 for the scheduled work and 1 for charter work.
Happy to be corrected on any of the above.
Leave Winter 13/14. As for GIB MON have dropped the W pattern for this route (thank god) so there will be 100% an A320 based here next summer
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Also in terms of A300 replacement, what were the frequencies of Dalaman, Tenerife and Palma for summer 2013?
Only reason I ask is that for summer 2014, Dalaman sees 3 flights on Mondays, Tenerife has 3 flights on Tuesdays, and for Palma, it sees 3 flights on Saturdays. I was just wondering if this is the same as S13 or an increase to take into account the loss of the A300 capacity?
Only reason I ask is that for summer 2014, Dalaman sees 3 flights on Mondays, Tenerife has 3 flights on Tuesdays, and for Palma, it sees 3 flights on Saturdays. I was just wondering if this is the same as S13 or an increase to take into account the loss of the A300 capacity?
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Also in terms of A300 replacement, what were the frequencies of Dalaman, Tenerife and Palma for summer 2013?
Only reason I ask is that for Dalaman, Monday sees 3 flights, Tenerife has 3 flights on Tuesdays, and for, it Palma sees 3 flights on Saturdays. I was just wondering if this is the same as S13 or an increase to take into account the loss of the A300 capacity?
Only reason I ask is that for Dalaman, Monday sees 3 flights, Tenerife has 3 flights on Tuesdays, and for, it Palma sees 3 flights on Saturdays. I was just wondering if this is the same as S13 or an increase to take into account the loss of the A300 capacity?
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I stand to be corrected, but I think that Dalaman was 2 x A300 on a Monday (1 of these only operated for the peak season overnight) Tenerife was 2 x Tuesday services, and Palma did operate 3 x Saturday services, but again, the 3rd frequency only operated for the peak season as an overnight service (I believe that the Saturday morning service was an A330 operation)
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MAN Oct provisional stats from the CAA
Air Transport Movements 14586 +2%
MAT 160955 Level
Terminal Passengers 1873451 +6.7%
MAT 20590418 +5.7%
MAT Passengers nearly back to 2004 levels; MAT ATM's now back to 1998 levels.....
Air Transport Movements 14586 +2%
MAT 160955 Level
Terminal Passengers 1873451 +6.7%
MAT 20590418 +5.7%
MAT Passengers nearly back to 2004 levels; MAT ATM's now back to 1998 levels.....
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[quote = thebusinessdesk.com]
VIRGIN Atlantic will cut one of four daily flights between Manchester and London on its Little Red service next year.
But the airline, which launched the service earlier this year, stressed the move reflected a loss of slots to another carrier rather than poor demand.
Last month The Independent newspaper said the airline was loss-making and flying planes that were only a third full - claims rebutted by Virgin founder Sir Richard Branson.
Virgin told TheBusinessDesk.com bookings are growing monthly but would not give figures ahead of the publication of financial results in the spring.
It has previously said it launched the service to feed its long-haul flights from Heathrow rather than compete with the likes of Ryanair and easyJet. Following the acquisition of BMI by BA's parent IAG in 2012 Virgin was dependent on BA flying its customers to pick up long-haul flights from Heathrow.
In a statement a Virgin Atlantic spokesman said: “From the start of the Summer 2014 season Virgin Atlantic Little Red will operate three daily flights between Manchester and London Heathrow.
"For the first year of Little Red’s operation we were able to operate four daily return flights between Manchester and Heathrow using slots loaned from another carrier. We now have to return those slots to their owner and due to Heathrow operating at almost complete capacity, we have not been able to find other slots to serve a fourth daily service.
"We will continue to provide passengers with a strong alternative for flights between Manchester and Heathrow, with three flights timed to maximise connection opportunities onto our worldwide network. This will include an early morning departure from Manchester and evening return time from Heathrow for the convenience of the Manchester business traveller.”
Little Red also flies from Aberdeen and Edinburgh to Heathrow. These routes are unaffected because Virgin secured the slots through a European Commission ruling following the BMI deal. It said BA must give up 12 landing slots at Heathrow from Aberdeen, Edinburgh, Moscow, Cairo, Riyadh and Nice.
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Lifestyle**/**Virgin's Little Red to cut back Manchester flights THEBUSINESSDESK.COM
VIRGIN Atlantic will cut one of four daily flights between Manchester and London on its Little Red service next year.
But the airline, which launched the service earlier this year, stressed the move reflected a loss of slots to another carrier rather than poor demand.
Last month The Independent newspaper said the airline was loss-making and flying planes that were only a third full - claims rebutted by Virgin founder Sir Richard Branson.
Virgin told TheBusinessDesk.com bookings are growing monthly but would not give figures ahead of the publication of financial results in the spring.
It has previously said it launched the service to feed its long-haul flights from Heathrow rather than compete with the likes of Ryanair and easyJet. Following the acquisition of BMI by BA's parent IAG in 2012 Virgin was dependent on BA flying its customers to pick up long-haul flights from Heathrow.
In a statement a Virgin Atlantic spokesman said: “From the start of the Summer 2014 season Virgin Atlantic Little Red will operate three daily flights between Manchester and London Heathrow.
"For the first year of Little Red’s operation we were able to operate four daily return flights between Manchester and Heathrow using slots loaned from another carrier. We now have to return those slots to their owner and due to Heathrow operating at almost complete capacity, we have not been able to find other slots to serve a fourth daily service.
"We will continue to provide passengers with a strong alternative for flights between Manchester and Heathrow, with three flights timed to maximise connection opportunities onto our worldwide network. This will include an early morning departure from Manchester and evening return time from Heathrow for the convenience of the Manchester business traveller.”
Little Red also flies from Aberdeen and Edinburgh to Heathrow. These routes are unaffected because Virgin secured the slots through a European Commission ruling following the BMI deal. It said BA must give up 12 landing slots at Heathrow from Aberdeen, Edinburgh, Moscow, Cairo, Riyadh and Nice.
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Lifestyle**/**Virgin's Little Red to cut back Manchester flights THEBUSINESSDESK.COM
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Westjet looking into a MAN flight, as they want to link to destinations within reach of their B737's:
WestJet poses challenge to Rouge
Execution will be key, he said. But if WestJet's transatlantic service proves
a success, it may consider adding places like Edinburgh, Manchester, and/or
London, he said
a success, it may consider adding places like Edinburgh, Manchester, and/or
London, he said
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Cannot believe this...
Airline easyJet today pledged further investment in its Manchester Airport operations over the next two years. - Manchester Evening News
In effect no growth at Manchester for 2 years !
so much for a mega base !
...why did the journalist not challenge the complete contradiction ?
Airline easyJet today pledged further investment in its Manchester Airport operations over the next two years. - Manchester Evening News
In effect no growth at Manchester for 2 years !
so much for a mega base !
...why did the journalist not challenge the complete contradiction ?
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what do you expect them to grow with as I think all next years new aircraft are already spoken for at Gatwick etc but are saying we are next in line.
The Flybe sale of slots at LGW came as a great bonus and had to be operated on
as soon as aircraft are available or they would lose them
Chaps
The Flybe sale of slots at LGW came as a great bonus and had to be operated on
as soon as aircraft are available or they would lose them
Chaps
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er I don't EXPECT anything ....
I was commenting on the fact that its apparently fastest growing base in UK, so fast that there are no new routes for 2 years and the lack of questioning from the dumb journalist !
I can point you at a similar headline they put out in 2011 !
er I don't EXPECT anything ....
I was commenting on the fact that its apparently fastest growing base in UK, so fast that there are no new routes for 2 years and the lack of questioning from the dumb journalist !
I can point you at a similar headline they put out in 2011 !
