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[Daza]

Thomson Winter 2012/13

Thomson show a small increase in long haul flying from BHX in Winter 2012/13. Punta Cana in DR is returns along with Bridgetown from December and Cancun all through the Winter. Montego Bay and Orlando have a short season beginning in March. No EMA long-haul winter flights
A small positive!

[PPRuNe Pop]

I believe that there are connotations hereabouts that smack of racism and it will not be abided on PPRuNe.

There will not be any further references or angst shown or the thread will be closed. It is very easy to change the subject and that is what you must do - now please.

PPP

[GayFriendly]

Mahan

Have just been on their website, BHX still in drop down menu but no flight times listed (as were previously), it has also been removed from their route map. I also see that they don't fly to ATQ anymore either, although do serve DEL. Based on this I can't see that they will be back in December as rumoured? Does anyone know any different?

Daza - small positives are about as good as it gets with routes at BHX!

[OltonPete]

Thomson 2012

Daza

Yes MBJ has taken a hit as that operates into December this winter. Strange
to have PUJ & BGI on the same day requiring two long-haul aircraft.

Bad news for summer 2012 as Catania has gone before it starting making this Thomson's forth new route not to start in just over a year although Djerba and others were never actually announced but were bookable. At least with the other three the Arab Spring could be blamed but not this one. The aircraft reverts to Palma and I assume flybe stood-down.

Pete

[OltonPete]

October route figures

Sources: CAA the monthly passenger figure
BHX blog and libhomeradar for number of rotations

Taking the schedule flights in isolation it is difficult to think that the
figures were down but it is virtually down to charter. Schedule losses include the Mahan Air although Comtel did a good job for a few weeks, Hamburg, Newark (Wednesday flight did not operate) and Dublin was shocking (2010
in brackets). Also some load factors are higher as some seats will not be
available for sale if the middle seat is kept free in business.

Vienna 3406 (nil) - 122 per flight

Brussels 11206 (10117) - 52 pax - 61% load factor

Larnaca 5252 (7495) - 202 pax - 95%

Paphos 3148 (nil) - 175 pax - 82%

Copenhagen 7370 (6889) - 80 - 73%

Bergerac 420 (nil) - 30 pax - 38%

Biarittz nil (1874)

Lyon 3072 (2902) - 35 pax - 70%

Montpellier 2636 (nil) - 110 pax - 70%

Nice 3275 (2927) - 102 pax - 69%

Paris CDG 27490 (29073) - 80 pax -75%

Dusseldorf 15122 (14858) - 44 pax - 53%

Frankfurt 24127 (23314) - 97 pax - 64%

Hamburg 2094 (2942) - 37 pax 48%

Hanover 5428 (4804) - 54 pax - 70%

Munich 12280 (10179) - 74 pax - 68%

Niederheim nil (3885)

Stuttgart 3817 (3357) - 41 pax - 52%

Cork 6574 (6235) - 53 pax - 74%

Dublin 44637 (51294) - 127 pax - 70%

Knock 4077 (4126) - 107 pax - 72%

Shannon 2926 (2498) - 47 pax - 66%

Waterford 998 (1504) - 28 pax - 58%

Milan 4247 (2996) - 69 pax - 59%

Trieste 1942 (1971) - 120 pax - 64%

Malta 3009 (2076) - 167 pax - 88%

Amsterdam 41795 (37831) - 99 pax 73%

Faro 19601 (18894) - 158 pax - 83%

Alicante 24297 (26326) - 162 pax - 86%

Almeria 2814 (1374) - 176 pax - 82%

Girona 4100 (5475) - 158 pax - 83%

Ibiza 4159 (4110) - 160 pax - 85%

Mahon 5845 (5710) - 183 pax - 85%

Malaga 28309 (28184) - 167 pax - 87%

Murcia 7988 (9570) - 138 pax - 80%

Palma 12710 (13020) - 163 pax - 87%

Reus 3394 (3957) - 141 pax - 75%

Arrecife 10245 (8441) pax - 183 pax - 90%

Fuerteventura 6382 (3474) - 177 pax - 88%

LasPalmas 6854 (6477) - 180 pax - 89%

Tenerife 16132 (14838) - 188 pax - 92%

Gothenberg 1272 (2140) - 25 pax 55% (was two daily briefly last year)

Zurich 12166 (11676) - 65 pax - 65%

Dalaman 5028 (4495) - 193 pax - 90%

Istanbul 5649 (4019) - 123 pax - 78&

Prague 1214 (3777) - 87 pax - 58%

Kaunas 2658 (2664) - 148 pax - 78%

Bydogszcz 4183 (4175) - 161 pax - 75%

Gdansk 2913 (2914) - 162 pax - 86%

Katowice 2640 (2892) - 132 pax - 70%

Krakow /nil (4110)

Rzesnow 3054 (2982) - 170 pax - 90%

Bratislava 4260 (4290) - 164 pax - 87%

Ashkhbad 4821 (5292) - 142 pax - 75%

Tehran / nil (4081)

Dubai 39938 (42685) - 322 pax - 75%

Islamabad 7804 (8512) - 300 pax 76%

Newark 8574 (9689) - 159 pax - 91%

Pete

[Dalbir]

Evaneplus, sorry mate you have not got a clue what you are talking about

Facts 1, tickets with comtel £510 saving £40 against the next lowest priced carrier at the time.

fact 2, most people had not even heard of comtel as they only started flights on October 1st 2011 apart from the fact that Takhar Travel, Skyjet & Skyjet Travel was persuading people to try it, and if everyone had your way of thinking any new start-up would not even leave the ground because you would not give them a chance.

as far as I can make out the same names involved in Air Slovakia are behind Astonbury Ltd, if this is found out to be true trading standards needs to get on the case and carry out a proper investigation so these people and stop them doing the same again in a couple of years time

and just out of interest I will post a link to a BBC article

BBC NEWS | South Asia | Fly Air Slovakia for Punjabi experience

what really beggars belief is how none of the owners of Astonbury Ltd / Skyjet / Skyjet Ltd have been named and shamed, are they paying someone to keep their name out of the press, Takhar Travel was only a ticketing agent and has been in all the press, maybe its true one rule for the rich and another rule for the poor

2008 Sunday Times Richlist Ranking: 1736= Worth: £42m Source of wealth: Petrol and aviation. Harjinder Singh Sidhu, 58, a Sikh businessman, amassed a fortune in London’s East End. He arrived as a teenager from the Punjab, and began as a cashier in a petrol station in Ilford. Within nine months, he had started to buy out his bosses, selling stations on to Burmah and Shell. In 2006 he bought Air Slovakia, a company with a turnover of $30m

Air Slovakia [Archive] - PPRuNe Forums

Some People are still not being allowed to travel back as I have just had a text from a stranded passenger who tells me Amritsar Airport authorities are stopping them

[jabird]

Vienna? Who's doing that?

[ssflyer]

"Vienna? Who's doing that? "
The#346 lot(refuel/change aircraft)

[jabird]

ss, ok, I think I missed some earlier posts, will read up later.

[GayFriendly]

Vienna? Who's doing that?

No one any more! There's a few posts to catch up on, happy reading!

[chinapattern]

CO/UA Newark

You can't help but laugh! Over on Skyscrapercity Hassan13 is launching a petition to re-instate flights between BHX and ORD and then the next post states CO/UA are dropping EWR to x5 weekly in April.

While most are suggesting it's the beginning of the end for BHX-EWR, I am remaining slighly hopeful that they might be opting for a similar strategy that they've just done at MAN - dropping the 2nd MAN-EWR and launching a new MAN-IAD in it's place. Could CO/UA be planning on dropping a few BHX-EWR frequencies but launching say a x5 weekly BHX-ORD to compliment it? Yes I know, clutching at straws!

[OltonPete]

Newark

Is this fact or just somebody checking GDS or the Continental website finding
the service cancelled on Easter Sunday and making assumptions.

I seem to be able to find six a week bookable the following week and daily from May.

Just four flights this week - panic, oh no just Thanksgiving.

Hopefully not true but it is tough times and when the 757's retire what then?

Seen a couple posts elsewhere stating no BHX-ORD by United in 2012?

Pete

[Copenhagen]

Amadeus has UA daily to BHX next summer

UA/CO 26 EWR 19:05 BHX 07:10 +1 752 0 1234567 01 May 22 Sep


And six weekly this winter

UA/CO 26 EWR 19:03 BHX 07:10 +1 752 0 1-34567 25 Dec 09 Mar

except for a part of April

UA/CO 26 EWR 19:05 BHX 07:10 +1 752 0 1---567 08 Apr 14 Apr

[ssflyer]

FR BHX/GRO?

OP and others.
Still no flights loaded post April to GRO (and to/from GRO to other UK airports)
Presume this is due to backlog/delay due to Ryanair/Reus/Girona contract.
Any news/confirmation of when they will be on the system (good old Jamie on the FR forum says there is a real logjam)

[ssflyer]

FR.GRO-sorted.

Flights to Girona are now loaded for Summer 2012 (W,F,Su as advised by OP) but a few samples I ran through their awful new booking system show they are really pricey compared to 2011.
Hobsons choice for the route but I will wait for the offers.

[Sal73x]

Hi, can anyone tell me what's the situation for the BHX-CTA?
Any flights planned for the summer 12?
Thanks

[GayFriendly]

CTA

AFAIK it has been cancelled along with RAK - there also seem to be a few reductions on other Med and Canaries routes from BHX by TOM for summer 2012, perhaps they are expecting everyone to stay at home to watch the Olympics? Doh, I have just given the PR team a new excuse to explain away falling pax numbers

[OltonPete]

Girona/Catania

ssflyer

Cheers I had noticed it Monday night but forgot to post it. Lovely Sunday evening arrival time in GRO! This leaves just Alicante to be released out of last years destinations and still some gaps to fill, which should see increases in frequencies or the more likely at least one new route.

I really can't see them leaving an aircraft on the ground again for five hours on a Tuesday and Thursday as they did this summer but I suppose with FR you never know. I thought extra Girona's might have gone into the Tue/Thu gap to put pressure on baby's Barcelona.

However at present it has been Monarch adding frequencies on routes they compete with Ryanair (PMI/ALC/LPA/IBZ/ACE).

Sal73x

Yes I posted this last week but I am unsure how long it has been pulled. I was interested in using it until I saw the imaginative prices . The schedule at present appears to be five aircraft still next summer with the 763 for a few days but worrying signs.

I noticed today that the extra Las Palmas in place of Luxor never started, the extra Friday Tenerife in place Hurghada never started either plus as GF mentioned RAK never saw the light of day either. They no longer use their own aircraft on FUE with the March and April flights not showing at all in the timetable and summer 2012 is on Thomas Cook.

Strangely enough the Thomas Cook schedule is fairly well in tact - at present

Pete

[Sal73x]

Thanks Pete!
Thomson's prices for flights to Sicily have always been futuristic
and I immagine that the 5 763 are all for the TOs?

I am actually surprised that they planned for 763. On the MAN-CTA
it is few years that I haven't seen one and for the last 3 years they use a 737.

[ssflyer]

Monarch-AGP

What are the chances of an extra Sunday flight, as available in 2011.
Is there a market/time slot? I used their early pm flight twice (in May and September) and it was pretty full.