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October pax down 3.7%
Source: CAA
October 2011 763246 -3.7% rolling year 8586782 -0.6%
ATM's 7345 -4.6% rolling year 83809 -2.6%
Disappointing but the finger is being pointed at charter pax
and I have never known so many IT flights end early with
only Rhodes bucking the trend.
In fact most scheduled business routes were up and leisure
was okay in general.
Turkish Airlines is the big plus at +41% 5649 average 123 nearly 80%.
Hamburg was down 29%, Dubai 6% and Paris 10% due to the
reduced rotations. Newark was down as well but less rotations
with load factor a stunning 91%. Islamabad was down but again
less rotations (due Hajj) and actually averaged over 300 per flight.
Pete
October 2011 763246 -3.7% rolling year 8586782 -0.6%
ATM's 7345 -4.6% rolling year 83809 -2.6%
Disappointing but the finger is being pointed at charter pax
and I have never known so many IT flights end early with
only Rhodes bucking the trend.
In fact most scheduled business routes were up and leisure
was okay in general.
Turkish Airlines is the big plus at +41% 5649 average 123 nearly 80%.
Hamburg was down 29%, Dubai 6% and Paris 10% due to the
reduced rotations. Newark was down as well but less rotations
with load factor a stunning 91%. Islamabad was down but again
less rotations (due Hajj) and actually averaged over 300 per flight.
Pete
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Comtel Fiasco
As far as i can work out Takhar Travel is a ticket selling agent for Skyjet, Takhar signed a contract with skyjet on 2 june 2011 to sell comtel tickets
and in the contract it states that Takahr would be operation under Astonbury Ltd ATOL registration
I also now have proof ie: bank statements showing that Takhar made around £100,000 pounds payments in cash to skyjet since 28 Oct 2011 to 11 Nov 2011 and also Takhar has also told me that he has been making regular payments to Skyjet
As for Skyjet i think they are the ones that need to be contacted urgently to find out if they have then passed those payments on to Comtel as another post say the guys behind Comtel and Skyjet have been behind other airlines in the past that the same thing happened
The directors of both these companies need to be investigated as a whole heap of money seems to have just disapeared when that happens nobody knows at the moment
Because Takhar sold the majority of the tickets he has become the fall guy, stinks of setup to me
and in the contract it states that Takahr would be operation under Astonbury Ltd ATOL registration
I also now have proof ie: bank statements showing that Takhar made around £100,000 pounds payments in cash to skyjet since 28 Oct 2011 to 11 Nov 2011 and also Takhar has also told me that he has been making regular payments to Skyjet
As for Skyjet i think they are the ones that need to be contacted urgently to find out if they have then passed those payments on to Comtel as another post say the guys behind Comtel and Skyjet have been behind other airlines in the past that the same thing happened
The directors of both these companies need to be investigated as a whole heap of money seems to have just disapeared when that happens nobody knows at the moment
Because Takhar sold the majority of the tickets he has become the fall guy, stinks of setup to me
As for Skyjet i think they are the ones that need to be contacted urgently to find out if they have then passed those payments on to Comtel as another post say the guys behind Comtel and Skyjet have been behind other airlines in the past that the same thing happened
From a mate who knows these things . The whole Comtel thing is just an AOC flag of convenience
It's the old saying coming back to bite you. If it sounds too good to be true, chances are, it is. What did these people think they were getting for their money? A brand new executive equipped jet with 5 star luxury food included? They knew the normal cost of a fare to the destination but were suckered by a rogue operator who offered them a 'great' deal.
What amazes me is that they can collect nearly 20,000 in cash from the passengers on board. I'm lucky if I've got a tenner on me on the return flight.
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Evan - if you had bothered to read my whole post you would hopefully have understood the point i was trying to make. It is the same lot of characters masquerading as Comtel (and local sikh's) that ran Air Slovakia until they too , went bust last year - i think these are the real villains here , but this "nugget"is being overlooked by the lot of you!
Monde, I also think you missed the irony in my post.
A bunch of tight arses who could afford to stump up for the fare with a reputable airline but chose not to and could then collectively find loadsa dosh when the hot and smelly hit the fan.
I've got no sympathy for any of them, they got what they deserved.
A bunch of tight arses who could afford to stump up for the fare with a reputable airline but chose not to and could then collectively find loadsa dosh when the hot and smelly hit the fan.
I've got no sympathy for any of them, they got what they deserved.
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Evaneplus,
The vast majority of UK consumers will shop around and take the least expensive option, be it clothes, holidays or food. How do you think Easyjet and Ryanair have become succesful, me thinks you need to venture into the real world a little.
The vast majority of UK consumers will shop around and take the least expensive option, be it clothes, holidays or food. How do you think Easyjet and Ryanair have become succesful, me thinks you need to venture into the real world a little.
And you are correct re the tight arses , should've gone Air India!
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Disappointing but the finger is being pointed at charter pax
and I have never known so many IT flights end early with
only Rhodes bucking the trend.
and I have never known so many IT flights end early with
only Rhodes bucking the trend.
The vast majority of UK consumers will shop around and take the least expensive option, be it clothes, holidays or food. How do you think Easyjet and Ryanair have become succesful, me thinks you need to venture into the real world a little.
What is so difficult that you can't grasp this?
It must be so wonderful in your world, promise me you'll stay there and never venture into mine.
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Evaneplus - educate me, what was the deal that was good to be true? How much were they charging for the flights? What was the avegare fare being asked for?
The equation works perfectly by the way, once upon a time Easyjet and Ryanair were unknown airlines, to the average UK consumer no different in perception and reputation that Comtel were 2 months ago.
The equation works perfectly by the way, once upon a time Easyjet and Ryanair were unknown airlines, to the average UK consumer no different in perception and reputation that Comtel were 2 months ago.
The difference is that although EZY and RYR may have been unknown to the average UK punter in their very early days, they had the backing of the son a very wealthy Greek shipping magnate in the case of EZY and in the case of RYR the backing of Tony Ryan, who made a fortune in aircraft leasing (GPA) and allegedly set up the airline as a "hobby", at least initially.
Evaneplus - educate me, what was the deal that was good to be true? How much were they charging for the flights? What was the avegare fare being asked for?
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Comtel.
The in's and out's of the result of the Comtel situation is that the flights were booked by the passengers in good faith in what is a highly regulated industry and they have been let down no matter what the fare was and I bet it was not that cheep either.
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Pity, when you said the deal was too good to be true I assumed you knew what you were talking about, clearly not. Maybe you can now educate me on why the Midlands is no longer the real world and why it is that folk from the midlands are attracted to such flights? Or are you making this up as well?
when you said the deal was too good to be true I assumed you knew what you were talking about, clearly not.
You obviously have some hidden agenda here and you are becoming boring so be a good fellow and get matron to give you your medication.
Numpty!
The drift of some posts here would seem to suggest that it's OK for (ethnic) Brits to look for a bargain fare, but if the the bargain hunting punters are destined for the Indian subcontinent they are worthy of abuse and no sympathy whatsoever.
This smacks of thinly disguised racism, for which I think there is no place on Pprune.
Mods. can we close this discussion?
This smacks of thinly disguised racism, for which I think there is no place on Pprune.
Mods. can we close this discussion?
This smacks of thinly disguised racism, for which I think there is no place on Pprune.
The moral of this is if it isn't ATOL protected then you take a gamble. Same as buying goods off ebay, you take your chance!
As suggested elsewhere
One bent Asian business screwing another bent Asian business over a bunch of Asians wanting a cheap deal. Why is anyone either surprised or bothered ?
Regarding the whip round by the Spanish Airline it seems they were only paid for the ATQ-VIE sector. What was the alternative, off load and position the aircraft back to MAD? Which is what it did after dropping the passengers off at BHX. Then a new can of worms would be opened.
Last edited by crewmeal; 18th Nov 2011 at 17:51. Reason: grammar error