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Old 15th Nov 2011, 05:21
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And who is going to trust this outfit for the future? After the past week's shenanigans I cannot see people risking their cash. For a few £££ more EK would be the better bet.
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Comtel

Reference the cancelled flights who had the problem. Was it Comtel or was it the carrier that operates the flights. Has any one any idea. There is a world of difference.


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No evidence of Comtel on todays BHX live arrivals/departures site apart from an 0915 arrival this morning which at 1450 as I write is simply marked as delayed......

ZB announce five new (ish!) routes then BE go and drop BOD and TLS and reduce frequencies most of their French flights for next summer

LH announce BER then Comtel goes tits up and VIE/ATQ disappears

Its always a step forward, two back when it comes to routes at BHX, they never seem to gain a critical mass of sustained new route development, I give up!
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Old 15th Nov 2011, 15:53
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In fairness, are any of us surprised that Comtel appear to have gone t&%s up? It amazes me how so many airlines have tried and failed at this route, even though Air India proved how successful it can be. Maybe this is just a glitch, but judging by some of the reviews I’ve read I can’t see it lasting, word of mouth is very strong in the Indian community and if I were flying to Amritsar then I'd go from Heathrow.

I also think BHX really should take some of the flack for this. I know they have no control over the running of the airline, but in one breath they want to promote the airport as a first class facility and gateway to the world, then they go and allow cowboy operations like this. Are they really that desperate for new routes? It really does them no favours. I’m just hoping that this new guy is doing all he can possibly do to get QR here and then at least ATQ would be linked with a first class carrier.
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Old 15th Nov 2011, 16:58
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Comtel

There are 2 arrivals shown for today, one delayed from this morning, no surpise there, and the other due this evening. The proof of the pudding is if these fkights operate before they are written off and consigned to a short period of history.

No one has answered my previous query - is this a Comtel or a Mint problem.


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Old 15th Nov 2011, 17:11
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Well, the Vienna arrivals/departures only shows the evening Comtel, which is delayed to 22:30.

Not sure if its a Mint problem or Comtel, but either way its the latter that is having its name dragged through the dirt, which isn't good if they intend to go on.
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Old 15th Nov 2011, 17:12
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Comtel

While the BHX home site shows an arrival at 2000 from Vienna this evening, a quick check of Vienna Airport arrivals/departures shows neither Comtel or departures for BHX........
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While the BHX home site shows an arrival at 2000 from Vienna this evening, a quick check of Vienna Airport arrivals/departures shows neither Comtel or departures for BHX........
It is on there, just use the 'destination' search funtion on the site (well, it was there 5 minutes ago anyway).

Taken off Vienna site:

19:00 COE732 Birmingham Comtel Air Verspätet 22:30 Details
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Old 15th Nov 2011, 17:25
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The problem is that BHX cannot disallow a carrier to operate through BHX. Imagine the furore if BHX decided to bar one carrier and promote another onthe same route - the legal industry would have a field day.

The problem lies with the people to choose to book with such fly by night carriers.

It was reported that a suspect travel agent who was up before the beak last week for selling bogus trips to Mecca got away with it for so long because the "community" didn't want to shop one of their own. Given that sort of mindset in the ethnic communities in Birmingham it's hardly a surprise that so many iffy operators seem to be able to so easily fleece their customers, and at the same time drag the reputation of BHX through the mire.
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The problem is that BHX cannot disallow a carrier to operate through BHX
I can see where the the frustration lies.

BHX is trying desperately to increase its route structure, but with airlines like Hellenic Imperial, Air Shylet and now Comtel, as well as dismal charter ops from those like Skywings and the axe of uncertainty hanging over bmi baby it seems like the fortunes need to change.

It seems the appointment of the new routes guy has helped, as BHX has gained the new Monarch routes, LH to Berlin and whilst not to do with the new guy, extra routes from bmi baby. Hopefully more of the same will follow for 2012. The murmours surrounding ORD seem positive and hopefully IB will be persuaded to serve Madrid.

The problem with ATQ is that it is a well used route but getting the right carrier on the route is tricky. It seems AI is not interested at all, Kingfisher in dire straits and Jet not looking to move into the UK beyond LHR. There are not really any UK carriers to do it, as hell will freeze over before BA serve it, Virgin only seem to do leisure routes outside of LHR and bmi are being sold to BA.
Could someone like Monarch be really brave and try the route? Unlikely but, you see why the route has been left to the carriers like Comtel and Air Shylet
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Comtel Air/Monarch

Tonight's Comtel Air is airborne Vienna

Monty Gordo The Vienna website is not the best

Monarch

As I suspected the second Sunday Malaga has gone to make just the
seven based! I just hope the new charter flights are not cut to get it
back to six.

The other missing gap was Friday and the inbound Bodrum is now showing
23.00 and I suspect this has been moved from a night flight although the
departure from BHX is still 20.50. I believe the IT has not caught up with
the schedule unless it is an aircraft swap in Bodrum.

That should be that, unless they add any night flights. The high-season
Tuesday Tenerife is still showing at 20.00 when there is no based aircraft
around so I assume still some slight adjustments to come.

GF - I would say three steps forward and 1/2 back , Bordeaux is disappointing but not too many rotations have been lost from the flybe schedule. I would say about six - seven June rotations a week and a few more in July. Basically they seem to have made way for Inverness which
switched back to a BHX based aircraft in September.

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Old 16th Nov 2011, 09:34
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Comtel Airhas abandoned hundreds of passengers in India

Sky Jet Ltd
46 Victoria Road,
Surbiton,
Surrey,
KT6 4JL
England U.K.
Telephone:0845 230 4565

I telephoned these 15/11/11 after being unable to contact Mr Shah who is the owner and what the guy on the other end said was quite interesting and diabolical thing to say

I asked "why are you treating passengers like cattle"
reply : "they are cattle" then he started giggling like a little girl
I then started swearing at him at which point he cut me off
Ithen telephoned back no answer
Withheld my number and called back the same guy picked up the and I said give me Mr Shah's mobile number
reply: "he does not have a mobile and there would be no point because he is proberbly in a casino spending the money right now"
Asked him for his name he refused i persisted he said "my name is Raj" bull**** i think

How is it that trading standards do not know of this company and its attitudes towards customers, not answering call when there is an absolute need to do so

Takhar Travel Ltd
2 High Street
Smethwick
Warley
West Midlands
B66 1DX
0121 565 5990
07831 648127

Is where i purchased my tickets from, Mr Takhar was no where to be found was not answering any calls but did finally call me at 7:00pm after i refused to leave his shop until he came to speak to me and explain what is going on and he planned to do about it

and then we have a Mr Sidhu 07973384811 who is also not answering his phone who he is in all this mess i don't know, but i have been informed that he is involved

Staff at Amritsar Airport have been less than helpful IE: 12 month old baby unable to make provision for milk, people left hungry, no information given to people, tricking people to leave the hotels with the promise of the flight resuming,

I personally will never fly into Amritsar Airport it is a shameful way to treat travelers who in most cases are far away from home stranded through no fault of their own, Shameful

The good news is at least now it is being reported on the Sikh channel and express and star front page today

next stage is prosecution of those involved including the head of the airline involved in this corporate greed, someone somewhere has done a runner with the ticket money that's what i think, the pilot apparently got arrested with around £30000 in cash on him
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Old 16th Nov 2011, 10:03
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Dalbir - don't waste your time with Trading Standards.

Give the CAA ATOL section a call on 0207 453 6424. They will be VERY interested to hear from you.
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Old 16th Nov 2011, 10:35
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Express & Star story

Passengers had to pay £19k to fly home « Express & Star
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Old 16th Nov 2011, 12:30
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Comtel

What an appalling story from Dalbir. The death knell for the latest in a long string of shabby outfits on this route has surely sounded, word travels fast around the Indian community using this route - I had got high hopes when they started but yet again the ATQ route has come crashing down and creates another embarrassment for BHX.......shameful. Good luck to those still stranded or who have outstanding bookings, you're going to (according to media reports at least) need it

At least there are still connections to ATQ with T5, am sure there is demand for another (proper airline) to join them, I wonder if Uzbekistan would ever consider relaunching from BHX as they offered good connections to ATQ? Didn't they once also do a TAS-BHX-JFK routing on a 767 in the dim and distant past?
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Old 16th Nov 2011, 13:20
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I contacted CAA, someone called Phil Pearse left message for him yesterday and left a message today hasn't even had the decency to call me back, and it our taxes that pay their wages, as far as i am concerned he should hand in his notice
absolute waste of time as far as i am concerns.
Lets see what these guys would do if it was their kids in this situation
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Old 16th Nov 2011, 17:06
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Chaotic scene at Luton

With security uppermost in everybody's mind at the present, the chilling scene at Luton Airport this morning should send a shudder down our spines.

A man, clearly deranged and naked, was creating a disturbance in the departures hall. What is chilling though, is that it took a full 10 minutes before the police arrived.

This man was never more than three - four feet away from his case/bag on the floor and no-one of the aiport staff considered it prudent to get that out of the way.

Clearly deranged, what could he have had in that case. It does not bear thinking about.

We must all hope that security, especially with the police in mind, is much sharper at BHX.
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Old 16th Nov 2011, 18:42
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Monty Gordo,

Not sure how a naked mentally ill man equates to your assumption of possibly being a terrorist having a bomb in his bag. Never heard of a naked terrorist yet ?

I don't see it as chilling at all.

A bit disturbing yes, but nothing more than that.

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Old 16th Nov 2011, 20:56
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Monty Gordo,

If you're chilled by that, I would suggest you turn your heating off a little more frequently.
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Old 17th Nov 2011, 10:11
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From a mate who knows these things . The whole Comtel thing is just an AOC flag of convenience ,as the guys behind them are the old lot from the defunct Air Slovakia (who used to operate the route). Worth steering clear!
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