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Old 8th Aug 2012, 08:09
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I am having trouble finding info about these exactly when these flights operate. I want to book to go to ATQ, the Armavia website allows for bookings until Dec at a bargain price of $200 each way but I want to go in Jan and it will not allow bookings after 31st Dec. It also says that there are 3 weekly flights but when you try to book they only seem to go on Wednesdays until the end of Dec, BHX or ATQ do not feature in their online timetable.
Given previous attempts to use these types of routes to get to the Indian sub continent, I predict Armavia won't even make it to December.
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Old 8th Aug 2012, 11:54
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If I'm not mistaken these flights are normally sold by specialist travel agents, largely marketing to the ex-pat Punjabi community - and not sold directly by the airline, or through any of the online booking agencies.

I guess if you really want to use the routing via Yerevan then a wander down the Stratford Road in Sparkhill my prove fruitful - me, I think I'd go for a less adventurous route!
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Old 8th Aug 2012, 23:44
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Seems to be most/all flights end in December, dunno what they're playing at! Probably a more solid itinerary than previous carriers on this route.
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Old 11th Aug 2012, 16:56
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BHX long haul leisure routes

Correct me if i'm wrong here but Thomson seem to do quite well on the long haul leisure routes out of bhx why don't ThomasCcook start doing long haul leisure routes or even Monarch?
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Old 11th Aug 2012, 17:12
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Monarch and TCX are getting rid of some of their long haul planes so no chance of new flts out of BHX unless they drop routes from LGW/MAN which isn't going to happen.

TOM have a crazy policy of splitting their long hauls half to BHX and half to EMA. So close together can't be cost effective.

Hopefully when BHX gets its runway extension,they will stop messing about and base a B787 all week at BHX.

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Old 11th Aug 2012, 17:16
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Does the 787 really need the extra runway? I thought the performance wasn't an issue with this type of aircraft.

I'm sure I read somewhere that BRS will come before BHX for Thomson's fleet of 787's.
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Old 11th Aug 2012, 17:55
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I thought the first TOM 787 was being based at EMA and was going to be used on some BHX long haul leisure routes?
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Old 11th Aug 2012, 18:12
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East Midlands has just two weekly long-haul flights bookable thus far for summer 2013, which is good in one sense as it will be the 787 operating and I suppose that it is based for two consecutive days. BHX doesn't do much better with the 763, which operates three flights in summer 2013.

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As I understood it BHX, BRS and NCL will come on-line at a later date in respect of the 787. They have actually gone for the regional airports with the longer runways for summer 2013. I am not sure what the plan is in winter 2013 for the cruise flights but maybe BHX will pick one up then.

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Old 11th Aug 2012, 18:20
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What progress...

As the last couple of entries re Bhx have been about long-haul flights, does anyone have any info on what progress is being made re runway extension. It has been, thus far, a difficult and often wet summer. Has that delayed matters or is the construction company on track for the scheduled finish date.
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Old 11th Aug 2012, 22:03
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Crewmeal,

It needs 9,200ft to destinations such as Cuba, Dominican Republic and BHX only has 8,560ft ish at present.

Expect TOM would only base one at BHX if it could do the longest routes as well as the ones currently flying from BHX.

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Old 11th Aug 2012, 22:13
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Monty Gordo;

Had a peak at the runway work Fri.

Utility companies finishing off the last of the sewer,fuel pipe work. Lot of archaeological work going on middle of the siterequired before its buried under concrete.

They have just put up 20 porta cabins rear of the closed Clock pub,and built a hardcore road from them along the edge of the field linking up with theColas site cabins in Clock Lane.

A large area of a field off Clock Lane has had hardcore put down, where all the large earth moving equipment will be parked for the new A45 to be built.

They were supposed to start the new road, end of July,so Id say they have lost a couple of weeks to the weather, which isn't bad.


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Old 12th Aug 2012, 13:18
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Runway extension update

Nigel Osborne - Thanks for the update, a couple of weeks behind schedule is not too bad considering the awful weather and it is a delay that can be caught up, I am sure.

However, what is the plan for the crucial bit ie extending the runway itself. Will that be undertaken at night and/or will flights be curtailed during this stage of the operation?
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Old 12th Aug 2012, 22:26
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Monty Gordo;

The plan is..road extension to be complete end of May 2013, runway extension to start same month and be complete end of 2013.Seems impossible to me but thats what BHX are now saying?

I would say some night closures and loss of Cat 3 whilst they move the ILS back and join the old ,and new runway extension.

Am trying to figure out how they can knock down the hilly bit to the side of the petrol station ,and keep the runway light posts plonked on top, at present going at the same time.Answers on a post card ?

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Old 12th Aug 2012, 23:52
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Runway extension

Maybe they will try and use 15 as much as possible? Except in strong winds from W etc when there would be too much of a tailwind for 15?

Only a suggestion?

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Nigel Osbourne.

OK its been about 15 years since I passed through that spot on the A45 where the 33 approach lights cross the road - But from memory the ground actually dips away quite steeply from the approach lighting to the right, going towards (Cov) - I have seen pictures of the extension at the 15 end that required very substantial earthworks - The evidence of this can still be seen today with a drop off of the embankment as you look towards the Radleys and what seems to be a displaced threshold. You get a fleeting glimpse from the Train to Euston/NEC.

[Edit: How did EGNX manage in similar circumstances -]

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Old 13th Aug 2012, 00:15
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A reduction in the 33 landing lights length has already been notamed. Leads to an increased RVR for Cat1, but no effect on Cat II or Cat II as the decision on those approaches is much closer to the threshold an over the approach lights that are still in use.

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Old 13th Aug 2012, 08:25
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Thanks both,

What worries me looking at the latest plans is the green shaded areas set back either side of the runway extension,looks like some sort of long noise bund.

If true there will be no view of the runway extension or 200metres before .

Hope my TD is rubbish and Im reading it wrong.

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Old 13th Aug 2012, 14:43
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easyJet

Birmingham airport is 82 miles from Luton, 90 miles from Manchester, Yet the distance between Edinburgh and Glasgow airports is just 48 miles.

Does Birmingham qualify to be a contender to become a next possible easyjet base.

What are your thoughts on this........?????
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Old 13th Aug 2012, 16:22
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Easy Jet,

Well apparently Easy Jet have been saying the same thing about BHX for years and repeated it recently..yield would not be high enough out of BHX to warrant a base..so LTN/STN yield is higher then ??:

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Old 13th Aug 2012, 17:36
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The demise (well slow death) of BMI Baby would have given EZY the chance to develope at BHX but Monarch got in first, and now I can't see that given the likely route network of the usual bucket and spade destinations, EZY would find easy to get a foothold in BHX - the local economy is afterall not that great at the moment either.

That said, EZY obviously feel there is money to be made at BHX, with the new BFS service on the horizon, a more likely scenario than a base would be selected inbound services from existing bases.
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