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All this talk about Southend is nonsense! The simple reason that Ryanair aren't flying there is because the 737-800 can't with any meaningful load. The Landing distance available according to the SEN website is: RWY 06 1285m & RWY 24 1399m. After public transport landing factors are applied you would be left with zero payload and in the wet or snow fuggedaboutit! I am not familiar with the Airbus but it obviously has far superior stopping abilities. Comparing the 733 and 738 is comparing chalk and cheese.
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Ok, So now its out there, MAN, How many A/C and What destinations ?
I would think ACE, FUE, LPA, AGP, CFU, RAK, MLA and LDY as these are
a mix of holiday destinations and Easyjet routes.
A London route would nice,
I would think ACE, FUE, LPA, AGP, CFU, RAK, MLA and LDY as these are
a mix of holiday destinations and Easyjet routes.
A London route would nice,
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Actually, MAN-NOC would not be a surprising choice in any way as this is a mature, long-established route which is about to be vacated by BMI Baby when they close their MAN base at the end of Summer 2011. MAN and LPL do have overlapping catchment areas, but they are far from identical. For some people, only one of the two is convenient for their journey. This is why it makes sense for Ryanair to serve LPL, MAN, LBA and EMA as separate markets and not rely on customers to travel to the least convenient of these airports as they see it. If they don't do this, the punters have a nasty tendency to select the journey which best suits their own needs ... not the route preferred by a particular airline's planning department.
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Shed,
I hope your absolutely right, i'd love to see more RYR routes at LDY. Maybe we'll get MAN with everyone now assuming that BHX has been axed from Winter schedule. Although RYR would blow BE out of the water which would be sad to see. Can't have it every way suppose.
I hope your absolutely right, i'd love to see more RYR routes at LDY. Maybe we'll get MAN with everyone now assuming that BHX has been axed from Winter schedule. Although RYR would blow BE out of the water which would be sad to see. Can't have it every way suppose.
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Crewmeal, there was a small shop / catering outlet in the departures cabin at CVT. My point was that if an airport is going to charge next to zero PSC, they need to make it back somehow - this will mainly come from parking, but some form of retail needed too - more flexibilty on the ground.
Likewise, BE might face competition on some routes but they only have to fill half the seats to make them work. Also, many places BE go, FR don't. Jet2 might be more worried but they seem to have held up at LBA, EDI etc.
A London route would nice,
Can't see that happening, not FR's game - if they can't make money on STN-PIK - a much longer surface route with virtually no PSC at the northern end, how could they make a route work from MAN? Easy make domestic routes work because they don't need as many bums on each rotation and they offer frequency to generate business yields.Likewise, BE might face competition on some routes but they only have to fill half the seats to make them work. Also, many places BE go, FR don't. Jet2 might be more worried but they seem to have held up at LBA, EDI etc.
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Well now you all know it MAN. It won't be announced on Monday. It will be announced any day except Mon and Fri.
NOC is due to be one of the routes. Also possible a few routes which operated before will return.
NOC is due to be one of the routes. Also possible a few routes which operated before will return.
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New article regarding Welsh tourism at Aviation Wales (May be of use)
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... Ryanair is coming with tail between legs...
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Ryanair & Manchester: On Kissing and Making Up ...
A bit of background on the stormy relationship between Manchester Airport and Ryanair. As you know, back in the days of the acrimonious split when Ryanair suddenly reduced from ten routes to just one at MAN, the airport famously stated that it refused to "prostitute" itself for Ryanair. MAG claimed at the time that they had offered terms which worked out at around GBP3 per passenger (seemed pretty reasonable to me). It certainly costs alot more than GBP6 to make an overland return journey from Manchester to an alternative Ryanair departure point.
Fast forward to January 2011 when Ryanair announced new routes to Spain from MAN and hinted at further cooperation with the airport in the future. At that time, Michael O'Leary gave a hilarious interview to "Manchester Confidential" discussing his change of heart. The interview is absolutely brilliant, well worth looking up. MOL on top form. I am not having much luck posting the link, but if you do a google advanced search on the following items: "Manchester Confidential ... Go to the loo before boarding ... Simon Binns meets Michael O' Leary ... January 26th" the piece should come up for you. It is well worth the effort. Perhaps someone else on here could try posting the link?
Anyway, keeping in mind the "prostitute" comment from the bad old days, MOL is quoted as follows: "The management at Manchester Airport has changed ... We're all involved in prostitution, but the old management didn't know much about the sex industry. We're Irish, we're not proud. We know you have to pay for sex and you have to pay to be at Manchester Airport too."
"The deal with Manchester is actually worse than the one we discussed 18 months ago but the level of growth is different. It's higher cost on lower traffic figures. I think its a fair arrangement."
Do look up and read the original article if you can. It is sure to put a smile on your face.
Speaking for myself, if the latest rumours are borne out I could be booking alot of Ryanair sectors over the next few months ... there are some interesting destinations in that list. I hope the new services are not all head-to-head with other carriers on existing sunshine routes. As I posted on this thread many moons ago, I used to be a frequent flier with Ryanair but that ground to an abrupt halt when MAN was reduced to a DUB route only. They simply didn't have any routes which were remotely useful to me after that, so I couldn't use them. Lots of folks in the Greater Manchester area found themselves in the same predicament. But if the latest rumours are true, I welcome the news of their return. In Ryanair's previous brief expansion I got to NRN, HHN, BRE, MRS, SNN (and DUB) ... just missed out on my CRL travel dates ... before they pulled out again. I look forward to adding to that list in the future. Customers such as myself don't hate Ryanair as a company ... we just hate inconvenient overland journeys to more distant departure points. And at MAN, we are fortunate to have many other flight options which circumvent that inconvenience.
Anyway, I'm keeping my fingers crossed for afew more exotic destinations ex-MAN if the latest reports are confirmed. I guess we will all know one way or the other within the next few days. SHED.
Fast forward to January 2011 when Ryanair announced new routes to Spain from MAN and hinted at further cooperation with the airport in the future. At that time, Michael O'Leary gave a hilarious interview to "Manchester Confidential" discussing his change of heart. The interview is absolutely brilliant, well worth looking up. MOL on top form. I am not having much luck posting the link, but if you do a google advanced search on the following items: "Manchester Confidential ... Go to the loo before boarding ... Simon Binns meets Michael O' Leary ... January 26th" the piece should come up for you. It is well worth the effort. Perhaps someone else on here could try posting the link?
Anyway, keeping in mind the "prostitute" comment from the bad old days, MOL is quoted as follows: "The management at Manchester Airport has changed ... We're all involved in prostitution, but the old management didn't know much about the sex industry. We're Irish, we're not proud. We know you have to pay for sex and you have to pay to be at Manchester Airport too."
"The deal with Manchester is actually worse than the one we discussed 18 months ago but the level of growth is different. It's higher cost on lower traffic figures. I think its a fair arrangement."
Do look up and read the original article if you can. It is sure to put a smile on your face.
Speaking for myself, if the latest rumours are borne out I could be booking alot of Ryanair sectors over the next few months ... there are some interesting destinations in that list. I hope the new services are not all head-to-head with other carriers on existing sunshine routes. As I posted on this thread many moons ago, I used to be a frequent flier with Ryanair but that ground to an abrupt halt when MAN was reduced to a DUB route only. They simply didn't have any routes which were remotely useful to me after that, so I couldn't use them. Lots of folks in the Greater Manchester area found themselves in the same predicament. But if the latest rumours are true, I welcome the news of their return. In Ryanair's previous brief expansion I got to NRN, HHN, BRE, MRS, SNN (and DUB) ... just missed out on my CRL travel dates ... before they pulled out again. I look forward to adding to that list in the future. Customers such as myself don't hate Ryanair as a company ... we just hate inconvenient overland journeys to more distant departure points. And at MAN, we are fortunate to have many other flight options which circumvent that inconvenience.
Anyway, I'm keeping my fingers crossed for afew more exotic destinations ex-MAN if the latest reports are confirmed. I guess we will all know one way or the other within the next few days. SHED.
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How very exciting FR will make a base at MAN, well I would be most surprised if they join a Flybe route, ie LDY. They dont seem to have many examples of doing this in the past.
So I expect that the base launch at MAN will be a wash with ByeBye bmiBABY... And as WW move on and get ready to launch a BHD european operation, ie starting next spring, the question is if the runway gets extended at BHD will FR be in to create havoc for WW?
Can anyone who is in the know give details as to how LBA base is going, I have heard some talk that it is at best marginal, and if I am not mistaken the expansion of LBA was as a direct result of falling out with MAN airport before, so for me the question is Will a MAN base effect LBA or LPL, my guess would be that MAN will give v cheap deal for the routes that come from either of those airports to MAN.
EI-BUD
So I expect that the base launch at MAN will be a wash with ByeBye bmiBABY... And as WW move on and get ready to launch a BHD european operation, ie starting next spring, the question is if the runway gets extended at BHD will FR be in to create havoc for WW?
Can anyone who is in the know give details as to how LBA base is going, I have heard some talk that it is at best marginal, and if I am not mistaken the expansion of LBA was as a direct result of falling out with MAN airport before, so for me the question is Will a MAN base effect LBA or LPL, my guess would be that MAN will give v cheap deal for the routes that come from either of those airports to MAN.
EI-BUD