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Kiss and make up with AENA too?
I do hope that FR kiss and make up with the Generalitat, AENA and Gerona aiport too (in no particular order)...
And when on a winning streak (correct phrase?) open a route between Skavsta (NYO) and Reus too...
And when on a winning streak (correct phrase?) open a route between Skavsta (NYO) and Reus too...
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bp - good point, Belfast must be the only city within the EU Open Skies zone that has two or more airports but no FR. (Apart from Bucharest, but that's a much lower income market - don't think Turkey is in Open Skies?)
Usually, MOL can play one airport off against the other - and sometimes he seems to get a good deal at both (Venice?) / all (BCN & its 'alternatives').
So why not at Belfast - even with its restricted runway, FR still went into BHD before, if only for UK routes. Is there some politics here? I know MOL thinks Derry is in the ROI, but surely FR's first consideration is always to go after the revenue above all else?
Usually, MOL can play one airport off against the other - and sometimes he seems to get a good deal at both (Venice?) / all (BCN & its 'alternatives').
So why not at Belfast - even with its restricted runway, FR still went into BHD before, if only for UK routes. Is there some politics here? I know MOL thinks Derry is in the ROI, but surely FR's first consideration is always to go after the revenue above all else?
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Manchester Raddison isn't too expensive 
but I wonder if MOL would ever fly his own routes. I remember how Stelios used to prefer using BA biz class out of London than going on EZY routes. Should be an interesting announcement none the less.
but I wonder if MOL would ever fly his own routes. I remember how Stelios used to prefer using BA biz class out of London than going on EZY routes. Should be an interesting announcement none the less.
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Grow up, Why dont you go and play on the British Airways thread and make childish remarks about their BIG announcement regarding a new base 
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"O" Im sorry you cant because there is'nt one is there,
So you may as well stay here and enjoy Ryanairs news,
Why not get a season ticket to this thread because the rate Ryanair Announce new routes and bases is a little bit more interesting to what is going on in many other threads on here.
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."O" Im sorry you cant because there is'nt one is there,
So you may as well stay here and enjoy Ryanairs news, Why not get a season ticket to this thread because the rate Ryanair Announce new routes and bases is a little bit more interesting to what is going on in many other threads on here..
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^^
What a lot of these FR bashers fail to realise is that this airline has actually changed peoples lives. Many people, like me, who could never afford to visit their families on a regular basis now can. I can also afford to hop to BCN, MAD or other cities to see concerts from artists that would never consider performing here and I can go on more affordable holidays.
Yes MOL is in the business to make money (he is a successful businessman and deserves to enjoy his success by staying in the Radisson if that suits him) but apart from all that his dynamic approach does a hell of a lot of good to a hell of a lot of people.
What a lot of these FR bashers fail to realise is that this airline has actually changed peoples lives. Many people, like me, who could never afford to visit their families on a regular basis now can. I can also afford to hop to BCN, MAD or other cities to see concerts from artists that would never consider performing here and I can go on more affordable holidays.
Yes MOL is in the business to make money (he is a successful businessman and deserves to enjoy his success by staying in the Radisson if that suits him) but apart from all that his dynamic approach does a hell of a lot of good to a hell of a lot of people.
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What a lot of these FR bashers fail to realise is that this airline has actually changed peoples lives. Many people, like me, who could never afford to visit their families on a regular basis now can. I can also afford to hop to BCN, MAD or other cities to see concerts from artists that would never consider performing here and I can go on more affordable holidays.
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Totally agree but that also goes for EZY, LS and ZB.
Totally agree but that also goes for EZY, LS and ZB.
In addition FR has opened up routes to places where nobody interested in going before.
Remember a lady in 2001 who I knew told me that FR opening up flights to Lamezia was wonderful for her parents as they from 30 minutes from there. Their 1 trip every 2 years spending £700 minimum via Rome or Milan taking all day and frequent delays meant every second trip getting put up in a hotel overnight. FR made it 3-4 flights a year always and even driving from Birmingham to Stansted was ok given what they were paying.
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Well I am sure it has been said before, but it is for two reasons in my opinion.
The root is that people who book with FR for the first time (and sometimes second and third time
) assume that it operates like the other airlines and don't read all the Ts&Cs, so then they get caught out with loads of extra charges or flying to the wrong airport (Booked PIK thinking it was GLA for example) and complain. FR has done nothing wrong, the PAX has, but they still complain anyway.
Then there is the double whammy. Loads of other people who have never even flown FR jump on the bandwagon and start slagging them off with second hand stories and repeating rubbish they have read in the press. BTW - the press are some of the worst culprits for mis-information about FR.
My message to these idiots is simple. If you can't travel within the "system" created by FR then choose another carrier. But please "shut up" and stop spoiling it for the rest of us.
The root is that people who book with FR for the first time (and sometimes second and third time
) assume that it operates like the other airlines and don't read all the Ts&Cs, so then they get caught out with loads of extra charges or flying to the wrong airport (Booked PIK thinking it was GLA for example) and complain. FR has done nothing wrong, the PAX has, but they still complain anyway.Then there is the double whammy. Loads of other people who have never even flown FR jump on the bandwagon and start slagging them off with second hand stories and repeating rubbish they have read in the press. BTW - the press are some of the worst culprits for mis-information about FR.
My message to these idiots is simple. If you can't travel within the "system" created by FR then choose another carrier. But please "shut up" and stop spoiling it for the rest of us.
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I agree 100% with everything you say,
I see your location is LPA, as im sure you know, due to Ryanair flying to/from LPA from the UK, YOU/ME and OTHERS no longer have to pay stupid amounts of money to fly this route, I for one remember paying over £300 for a return flight from LON-LPA, Since Ryanair started, I have payed as little as £26 all in, For this route and the most I payed is £110, I now go to LPA/ACE (3-4) times a year.
Yes the same does go for LS, ZB and EZY, But FR still offer the best price and FR has better times and the best on-time record than all of the above.
We must not forget thit it was Ryanair who started LowFares through out Europe and the other LowCost carriers jumped on the band waggen, So yes dont forget the others but also dont forget they only came about due the success of Ryanair.
I see your location is LPA, as im sure you know, due to Ryanair flying to/from LPA from the UK, YOU/ME and OTHERS no longer have to pay stupid amounts of money to fly this route, I for one remember paying over £300 for a return flight from LON-LPA, Since Ryanair started, I have payed as little as £26 all in, For this route and the most I payed is £110, I now go to LPA/ACE (3-4) times a year.
Yes the same does go for LS, ZB and EZY, But FR still offer the best price and FR has better times and the best on-time record than all of the above.
We must not forget thit it was Ryanair who started LowFares through out Europe and the other LowCost carriers jumped on the band waggen, So yes dont forget the others but also dont forget they only came about due the success of Ryanair.
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The perseption of Ryanair is very selective and many will have their own personal opinions on whether to avoid totally, fly with reluctance or believe FR is the best thing to have happened in recent aviation history. As these are personal opinions they could be argued until the cows come home.
However on the comment about bashing FR compared to the other low cost carriers, personally I feel FR have brought this on themselves. Michael O'Leary (and thus FR) often act in a controversial, arrogant and obnoxious manner, whether justified or not, so this stirs tensions and emotions. If Ryanair's public relations were a little more sophisticated and professional, I think people would not have the opinion of an arrogant company putting itself on a pedestal, and thus want to knock it down.
Easyjet et al mostly just seem to bubble away, doing what they do fairly quietly and contently and so not drawing much attention. But with FR constantly in the media, controversial advertising, out spoken about this and that, etc, only gives the wider public (and those with aviation knowledge) more of a reason to speak back and I suppose bash. Over the past number of years it has now got so commonplace, that the militant FR now have an equally militant public bashlash going on. Some of this may be purely unfounded as blueplatinum mentioned, however this culture I feel has grown out of FR own actions and public relations.
However on the comment about bashing FR compared to the other low cost carriers, personally I feel FR have brought this on themselves. Michael O'Leary (and thus FR) often act in a controversial, arrogant and obnoxious manner, whether justified or not, so this stirs tensions and emotions. If Ryanair's public relations were a little more sophisticated and professional, I think people would not have the opinion of an arrogant company putting itself on a pedestal, and thus want to knock it down.
Easyjet et al mostly just seem to bubble away, doing what they do fairly quietly and contently and so not drawing much attention. But with FR constantly in the media, controversial advertising, out spoken about this and that, etc, only gives the wider public (and those with aviation knowledge) more of a reason to speak back and I suppose bash. Over the past number of years it has now got so commonplace, that the militant FR now have an equally militant public bashlash going on. Some of this may be purely unfounded as blueplatinum mentioned, however this culture I feel has grown out of FR own actions and public relations.
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^^
Some good points. I have only really been taking an interest in FR since they added LPA. It would be interesting to see a detailed history of what has passed to see whether MOL's outrageous behavior (in the way he PRs the airline) has come about as a reaction to the bad press or vice-versa.
I notice you are at BFS. We desperately need FR to link us to there. We are getting lousy and expensive service from EI at the moment.
Some good points. I have only really been taking an interest in FR since they added LPA. It would be interesting to see a detailed history of what has passed to see whether MOL's outrageous behavior (in the way he PRs the airline) has come about as a reaction to the bad press or vice-versa.
I notice you are at BFS. We desperately need FR to link us to there. We are getting lousy and expensive service from EI at the moment.