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I'm sure that there were only 2 trips last winter in December.
So 2 extra this year
American tristar did they come to ncl? If so what year and what were the loads like has anyone got any Data for these type of flights we used to have ?
I agree the hubs like LHR,AMS etc make it easier for people but I'm sure people are put off flying to places due to changes. I know my parents aren't keen on going to New York as you can't fly direct and don't like the idea of change and hassle if you miss flight etc. I'm sure they would not be the only ones too?
So 2 extra this year
American tristar did they come to ncl? If so what year and what were the loads like has anyone got any Data for these type of flights we used to have ?
I agree the hubs like LHR,AMS etc make it easier for people but I'm sure people are put off flying to places due to changes. I know my parents aren't keen on going to New York as you can't fly direct and don't like the idea of change and hassle if you miss flight etc. I'm sure they would not be the only ones too?
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Globespan used to offer Worldways to Canada and AmTran to the US from a number of regional airports. That sort of operation is a thing of the past to the US. Continental offered GLA/EDI/BHX/BRS/BFS/LGW->LHR, BRS and LGW were dropped. If anyone could make NCL-NYC it would have been CO.
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American Airlines scraps Newcastle-NYC route - Business Traveller
NCL was on the cusp of a regular sched New York service in 2006.
BRS had its CO service to EWR for five and a half years from 2005 to 2010. It began when CO had no access to LHR. As soon as it did I always thought the BRS route was on borrowed time.
The CO LGW-EWR route was quickly switched to LHR and it seemed to me to make little sense to operate 4 x daily from LHR with a fifth flight out of a small airport one hundred miles away, so I was not surprised when LHR became 5 x daily and BRS zero. Had CO enjoyed access to LHR in 2005 it's extremely unlikely they would ever have started their BRS service.
I'm not sure how much of this would be relevant to NCL.
NCL was on the cusp of a regular sched New York service in 2006.
BRS had its CO service to EWR for five and a half years from 2005 to 2010. It began when CO had no access to LHR. As soon as it did I always thought the BRS route was on borrowed time.
The CO LGW-EWR route was quickly switched to LHR and it seemed to me to make little sense to operate 4 x daily from LHR with a fifth flight out of a small airport one hundred miles away, so I was not surprised when LHR became 5 x daily and BRS zero. Had CO enjoyed access to LHR in 2005 it's extremely unlikely they would ever have started their BRS service.
I'm not sure how much of this would be relevant to NCL.
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Transatlantic from NCL
The whole transatlantic thing is really of no interest unless eventually we get a scheduled multi weekly flight from NCL. For those that wish to delve into the past I think you will finds that the first transatlantic flights ex NCL were affinity charters in the early 70's organised by the late great Alice Joyce under the guise of the 'Hebburn Catholic Women's League' flying with Aer Lingus and TWA 707 s to JFK and Air Canada DC8's to YYZ. Reg Pycrofts Jetsave followed with ABC charters and interestingly Fred Ward 's Wardair flew to Toronto. he hailed originally from Stakeford and flew in on the first flight to take his mother on the inaugural back to YYZ
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Please stop the NYC chatter
For a new route to be introduced a market must be present or at least able to be forged and maintained. Both options are examined by both the airlines and airports. Jet2 have a market and are doing well with it by all accounts.
If New York was viable then we'd have it. The fact is there is a wide choice available and their manageable flights (quick transfers etc).
I fear that the people discussing the potential for New York here are simply bored plane spotters looking for a new aircraft to see at NCL. Let me tell you. You've got plenty of 757s to gaze at, you don't need another one.
I accept that some people would benefit from a direct route but tell me this. Do you want to pitch in to pay for all the empty seats aboard your aircraft? If so then get in touch with an airline to let them know. If not, get yourself on sky scanner and enjoy your cheaper and most probably more comfortable flight to the US like so many other people in the NE are doing.
If New York was viable then we'd have it. The fact is there is a wide choice available and their manageable flights (quick transfers etc).
I fear that the people discussing the potential for New York here are simply bored plane spotters looking for a new aircraft to see at NCL. Let me tell you. You've got plenty of 757s to gaze at, you don't need another one.
I accept that some people would benefit from a direct route but tell me this. Do you want to pitch in to pay for all the empty seats aboard your aircraft? If so then get in touch with an airline to let them know. If not, get yourself on sky scanner and enjoy your cheaper and most probably more comfortable flight to the US like so many other people in the NE are doing.
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What he says ^
All we need now is the spotters to come on with their day by day breakdown of EK aircraft types to remind me of why I avoid this thread these days!
All we need now is the spotters to come on with their day by day breakdown of EK aircraft types to remind me of why I avoid this thread these days!
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GeorgEGNT Well said 
As a foot note then it really does annoy me that Jet2's holiday shopping trips are even thought of in any other context. Anything else is pure "day dreaming" fantasy, as is, as I've said so many times over the years, not a chance of a NCL - NY service.
As a foot note then it really does annoy me that Jet2's holiday shopping trips are even thought of in any other context. Anything else is pure "day dreaming" fantasy, as is, as I've said so many times over the years, not a chance of a NCL - NY service.
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A point very well made GeorgEGNT.
Seems to be a regular case. Whenever the charters like NYC are announced, the spotters come out in force. Its always been the case. There simply isn't demand for a direct service from NCL. Pax prefer to connect through the likes of AMS, LHR etc, may not be the most practical for a few, but the majority of the time, it will be cheaper than a direct service (just look on skyscanner) and thats more important to folk nowadays, and the airlines will fill their planes that way!
Seems to be a regular case. Whenever the charters like NYC are announced, the spotters come out in force. Its always been the case. There simply isn't demand for a direct service from NCL. Pax prefer to connect through the likes of AMS, LHR etc, may not be the most practical for a few, but the majority of the time, it will be cheaper than a direct service (just look on skyscanner) and thats more important to folk nowadays, and the airlines will fill their planes that way!
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Well first of all I am not a 'spotter' but I do think the next major step for NCL is a US link. I do agree its nothing to do with what J2 are doing, but any US link would need some point to point to help fill out what will be another hub operation. I am sorry Boris but people do not prefer to go via the likes of AMS or LHR, Its only what's available at the moment!
Prices will be similar to MAN, GLA or EDI operation all of which if you look at CAA statistic's draw a considerable number of passengers from this region!! Don't be fooled into thinking the whole of the NE want cheap cheap cheap, EK are very impressed with the number of business class pax's on the DXB so there must be a demand for this West bound as well! Give people a one stop Americas service instead of a two stop and people will give it ago!
This site does have a considerable number of 'enthusiast's but it also have a good number of people who cannot lift there head's out of the sand and look forward!!
Prices will be similar to MAN, GLA or EDI operation all of which if you look at CAA statistic's draw a considerable number of passengers from this region!! Don't be fooled into thinking the whole of the NE want cheap cheap cheap, EK are very impressed with the number of business class pax's on the DXB so there must be a demand for this West bound as well! Give people a one stop Americas service instead of a two stop and people will give it ago!
This site does have a considerable number of 'enthusiast's but it also have a good number of people who cannot lift there head's out of the sand and look forward!!
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I would pay a premium to fly non-stop rather than change at AMS (anyone actually have their luggage transferred properly through there???) or DBX, LHR, CDG etc.
Maybe someone should do a poll to see where people go to after DBX etc. If there is a high % going to one particular place eg Sydney or Bangkok then maybe a direct flight would be economical.
I hate changing planes and would never fly with Emirates where you split the flight right in the middle.
I also heard the Transport Minister mention USA flights when he was at NCL today (lunchtime Look North).
Maybe someone should do a poll to see where people go to after DBX etc. If there is a high % going to one particular place eg Sydney or Bangkok then maybe a direct flight would be economical.
I hate changing planes and would never fly with Emirates where you split the flight right in the middle.
I also heard the Transport Minister mention USA flights when he was at NCL today (lunchtime Look North).
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ASH666: A direct flight from NCL to SYD or BKK? Are you trippin'? Or have I misread?
People need to remember that a lot of people use NYC as a hub to move on to somewhere else. So they either will have to use a European hub and go direct to the destination from there. Or they could go direct to NYC and connect from there. Either way they going to have to change. For those who's final destination is NYC there must be 20 combinations of flight every day they can chose from. One single direct flight isn't going to change that.
I think people need to take a reality check. Jet2 are dead in the winter. If there was demand there's little to stop them doing year round flights. But they just know it's not viable.
10 DME ARC. How can you know how happy EK are with their premium loads?
People need to remember that a lot of people use NYC as a hub to move on to somewhere else. So they either will have to use a European hub and go direct to the destination from there. Or they could go direct to NYC and connect from there. Either way they going to have to change. For those who's final destination is NYC there must be 20 combinations of flight every day they can chose from. One single direct flight isn't going to change that.
I think people need to take a reality check. Jet2 are dead in the winter. If there was demand there's little to stop them doing year round flights. But they just know it's not viable.
10 DME ARC. How can you know how happy EK are with their premium loads?
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I don't know how the figures would add up but weekly to BKK?? A 777 could manage it.
I see US Airways is starting a daily service from EDI to Philadelphia in May. Is EDI really so different to NCL?
I see US Airways is starting a daily service from EDI to Philadelphia in May. Is EDI really so different to NCL?
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What use is a weekly BKK? Switching planes in DXB may be a hassle to some, but people need to be flexible with the days they travel. If people get little choice of when they have days off and vacation (like me for instance) then on day one of my holiday I'm off. I'm not waiting around for days for a direct flight.
Yes. EDI is very different. It has a lot more inward tourism and has a much bigger population within an hours drive of the airport and is more affluent, has more political ties and business HQs too.
Yes. EDI is very different. It has a lot more inward tourism and has a much bigger population within an hours drive of the airport and is more affluent, has more political ties and business HQs too.
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Connection flights via DXB have been really useful for me in the past year, last year having to connect to DXB and 3 weeks ago connection at DXB onwards to PVG then TPE.
I really like the Emirates service
I really like the Emirates service