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Here here ncleflights, I for one will definitely not be flying with them again. We had 6 hours delay on way out and 9 hours delay on way back. Both delays were GSM own fault. Its a pity because the plane was really good and the cabin crew were great, but people are going to get so put off with all the delays and no reps available from GSM when you need them.
It was funny on our return flight before we were about to take off they went through the safety matters and they said if anyone was caught smoking in the toilets they would not be allowed to fly with GS again, the whole plane applauded!!!!!
It was funny on our return flight before we were about to take off they went through the safety matters and they said if anyone was caught smoking in the toilets they would not be allowed to fly with GS again, the whole plane applauded!!!!!
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Maybe they may have problems with long haul, but short haul, especialy from MME certianly don't seem to have any problems. I have flown with them twice in a year and have not had any problems, crew good, and full aircraft and am flying again with them this summer.
I find it very distasteful that people like ncleflights, who have no interest in GSM, to post things about how he/she wishes airlines to go under.
It is people's livelihoods you are taking about, Unless maybe you are worried that GSM flights from MME are having an impact on flights from NCL and it is having an impact on you?
I find it very distasteful that people like ncleflights, who have no interest in GSM, to post things about how he/she wishes airlines to go under.
It is people's livelihoods you are taking about, Unless maybe you are worried that GSM flights from MME are having an impact on flights from NCL and it is having an impact on you?
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ETOPS has only been returned to their 767-300's. The 757 is still non-ETOPS.
Why didn't anyone transfer the crew of the delayed 767 to a non-delayed flight to London (anywhere in London), surely they were not all delayed 2 hours?
Is there a buck to pass for the delayed (tech) BCN flights today? 8 hours late from GLA / 6 hours late from EDI.
Why didn't anyone transfer the crew of the delayed 767 to a non-delayed flight to London (anywhere in London), surely they were not all delayed 2 hours?
Is there a buck to pass for the delayed (tech) BCN flights today? 8 hours late from GLA / 6 hours late from EDI.
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mmeman - I find it equally distastful that posters seem to forget that GSM brought all their current problems on themselves. Leasing out aircraft to other carriers leaving them short for their own program for the short term gain showed a lack of judgement and demonstrates the poor level of customer service. They seemed only to willing to heap delay after delay on their own customers for a quick buckmade from leasing.
Also mmeman I don't generally wish any airline to go under but this one needs to be put out of its misery. As for your comment about peoples livelihoods,given the current economic conditions I suspect a lot of good companies and indeed some good airlines will go to the wall and its these we should feel sorry for not ones that constantly let passengers down.
As for your last statement about GSM flights having an impact of on NCL I take it you have been on the pop today, if not I suggest you look at both airports aircraft movements today!!
Also mmeman I don't generally wish any airline to go under but this one needs to be put out of its misery. As for your comment about peoples livelihoods,given the current economic conditions I suspect a lot of good companies and indeed some good airlines will go to the wall and its these we should feel sorry for not ones that constantly let passengers down.
As for your last statement about GSM flights having an impact of on NCL I take it you have been on the pop today, if not I suggest you look at both airports aircraft movements today!!
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ncleflights,
As we are all aware, FGS have their problems, however, for you to wish the staff of FGS to be "put out of their misery" as you so eloquently put it, seems a tad on the harsh side! The staff at FGS, I am sure are not all to blame for the mishaps that occur with their airline and I wish to echo a previous comment from mmeman that he has had only positive experiences of FGS, an airline who have brought a great deal of opportunity to the MME area with relation to destinations served and jobs created.
Your comments about effectively wishing people to be put on the dole queue and the misery that this inflicts upon individuals and families alike only go to confirm how much of a T*SSER you really are! I can only hope that despite your comments, you nor your family have to suffer the misery and uncertainty of being made redundant!
I would expect more from a professional in the aviation industry which only leads me to suspect that you are probably a pissed off spotter who thinks he knows about the industry!
As we are all aware, FGS have their problems, however, for you to wish the staff of FGS to be "put out of their misery" as you so eloquently put it, seems a tad on the harsh side! The staff at FGS, I am sure are not all to blame for the mishaps that occur with their airline and I wish to echo a previous comment from mmeman that he has had only positive experiences of FGS, an airline who have brought a great deal of opportunity to the MME area with relation to destinations served and jobs created.
Your comments about effectively wishing people to be put on the dole queue and the misery that this inflicts upon individuals and families alike only go to confirm how much of a T*SSER you really are! I can only hope that despite your comments, you nor your family have to suffer the misery and uncertainty of being made redundant!
I would expect more from a professional in the aviation industry which only leads me to suspect that you are probably a pissed off spotter who thinks he knows about the industry!
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GSM Scott
Its all well and good put this down to a delayed bmi flight, but that happens, indeed most companies will not allow crew to use staff travel (to position after days off) on a duty day because this is what can and does happen, the cost of positioning them down the day before including hotac is small compared to the knock on effect if it goes wrong, as for bmi they are less likely to cancel a domestic than BA.
No one wants to see GSM go down (apart from a few bitter ex employees) but some of these things are down to them and they can avoid them.
No one wants to see GSM go down (apart from a few bitter ex employees) but some of these things are down to them and they can avoid them.
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I have only flown with Flyglobespan once and that was from Glasgow to Malaga a couple of years ago before they embarked on their expansion across the Atlantic. So I'm not really in much of a position to comment on their quality of service. However, if customers are badly treated on a regular basis then they will use another airline and Flyglobespan will go under. But let's hope they can manage to get their act together instead and that nobody will lose their jobs.
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AEUENG- Wel ill ignore the rude comment re T*SSER to quote as youve obviously fallen victim of the GSM spin. For the record ive been in the Airline business since 1986 and the business been what it is fully understand that it is one of the most vunerable to be in ive had my share of working from different basis and airlines and have had the uncertainty of loosing my job many times. To be quite honest this is the wrong industry to be in if your after longterm job security.
However lets put the emotion and insults aside and perhaps read what I have posted. I don't casually go around wishing jobs losses on folks but common sense must dictate that an airline or indeed any business that lets its customers down as often as this lot do should not be in business. I suspect that when they eventually disappear many of those folks working for them will find gainfull employment with a more customer focussed organisation. I suspect many have already jumped ship given the rumours that seem to be doing the rounds of crew shortages.
With regard to the MME comment reducing the number of based aircraft by 50% in less than 2 years can hardly be classed as successful, can it?
See you can write a post AEUNG without resorting to personal insults, but then that will come with maturity I suppose.
However lets put the emotion and insults aside and perhaps read what I have posted. I don't casually go around wishing jobs losses on folks but common sense must dictate that an airline or indeed any business that lets its customers down as often as this lot do should not be in business. I suspect that when they eventually disappear many of those folks working for them will find gainfull employment with a more customer focussed organisation. I suspect many have already jumped ship given the rumours that seem to be doing the rounds of crew shortages.
With regard to the MME comment reducing the number of based aircraft by 50% in less than 2 years can hardly be classed as successful, can it?
See you can write a post AEUNG without resorting to personal insults, but then that will come with maturity I suppose.
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Goodness knows whats happened with todays sanford flight from Glasgow. There is a lot of unhappy customers at Glasgow airport just now who were due to leave at 9.30am this morning to go to Orlando but are still there and some even more unhappy customers at Sanford airport just now due to return but are now being taken to a nearby hotel!!!!! A person I have spoken to parents are at Sanford just now well pi***ed off
Oh dear same old story for GS
Oh dear same old story for GS
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I wish a week could go by without some sort of problem with the SFB flight. God forbid whats going to happen when it goes daily. Thankfully im only flying GLA-PMI this year which they run great along with the rest of the European services
The constantly annoying thing about GSM is they chose leasing off over flying for themselves anytime, im guessing this year the Corfu,Prague,Pula flights were canceled from GLA & EDI because they decided to lease off G-CDEG. This decision then leaves them short of a/c like for example the now G-CEJO is having to cover BCN the now because of G-CDKT being in chartoroux and its getting close to G-CEJO starting the YHM flights. Also the time when they were to start Las Vegas, Barbados from GLA but cancelled sayin lack of sales but we all know it was the Air India contract.
The constantly annoying thing about GSM is they chose leasing off over flying for themselves anytime, im guessing this year the Corfu,Prague,Pula flights were canceled from GLA & EDI because they decided to lease off G-CDEG. This decision then leaves them short of a/c like for example the now G-CEJO is having to cover BCN the now because of G-CDKT being in chartoroux and its getting close to G-CEJO starting the YHM flights. Also the time when they were to start Las Vegas, Barbados from GLA but cancelled sayin lack of sales but we all know it was the Air India contract.
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GSM SCOT.....Please stop the spin
Let me put the record straight.......I don't want flyglobespan to go down,who would that serve.........Mr O'Leary.....Mr easy or who?
All i'd like is that this 'airline' would start treating our passengers and crew (all crew not just flight deck)as decent people,people who want to make life work and work where they want to live....what's so wrong with that?
If you want to spin,please consider those you work with too.
All i'd like is that this 'airline' would start treating our passengers and crew (all crew not just flight deck)as decent people,people who want to make life work and work where they want to live....what's so wrong with that?
If you want to spin,please consider those you work with too.
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A while back, I proposed an airline acronym for GSM. How true it is;
FlyGlobespan = Flights Leave You Going Late, Organisation Bad, Ever-Suffering Passengers Annoyed Now
And the thing with GSM is that they hide behind the "small print" whenever they want to change your booking. e.g.
and
So basically, they can cancel your flight or change it in any way they like and at any time and their maximum liability is to refund your fare. If you've already booked your time off work, your accomodation, your hire car and your theme park passes and they change or cancel your flight, it could cost far more than your refund to book an alternative flight at short notice. Personally, I wouldn't touch any supplier that treats their clients in this way, especially one with a track record like GSM. Last year was really bad. This year looks like being the same.
I wouldn't even call them low cost. I looked at booking a flight from GLA to SFB with them in October and it was almost 50% more than the price of CO from EDI to MCO via EWR. EDI is my local airport, SFB is the wrong end of Orlando and GLA is at the wrong side of a traffic jam for me so it's swings and roundabouts which route I fly. With GSM costing 50% more it's a no brainer.
I really wish that GSM could sort themselves out. I'd like to support my local airline, but until they get their organisation sotrted out, their terms and conditions and fares competitive, and until they start flying long haul from EDI I won't be using them any time soon. They're a real disappointment.
FlyGlobespan = Flights Leave You Going Late, Organisation Bad, Ever-Suffering Passengers Annoyed Now
And the thing with GSM is that they hide behind the "small print" whenever they want to change your booking. e.g.
We reserve the right to amend, introduce stops, cancel or consolidate flights as necessary to achieve the high load factors required to maintain profitability whilst offering low fares. Whilst we will try to avoid making changes, we will of course notify you of any material change where it is practical to do so. In this instance we will contact you via your registered email address if the booking was made on the website.
If we have to cancel a flight for any reason, and no suitable alternative flight is available, then we will upon application refund all monies paid in respect of the cancelled flight.
I wouldn't even call them low cost. I looked at booking a flight from GLA to SFB with them in October and it was almost 50% more than the price of CO from EDI to MCO via EWR. EDI is my local airport, SFB is the wrong end of Orlando and GLA is at the wrong side of a traffic jam for me so it's swings and roundabouts which route I fly. With GSM costing 50% more it's a no brainer.
I really wish that GSM could sort themselves out. I'd like to support my local airline, but until they get their organisation sotrted out, their terms and conditions and fares competitive, and until they start flying long haul from EDI I won't be using them any time soon. They're a real disappointment.
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Sorry got the letters mixed up.
Have flyglobespan approached anybody about a merger or aquisition?
Rick Green released that statement in an interview a while ago now.
Have flyglobespan approached anybody about a merger or aquisition?
Rick Green released that statement in an interview a while ago now.
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Jimmy Riddle!
I’ve just looked through your recent posts regarding Globespan and you really do have an axe to grind.
Why do you feel the need to voice your disappointment on a public forum? Not a very professional attitude for a “professional pilot”!
What do you aim to achieve?
Would your efforts not be better placed discussing the issues you have with your fleet manager and your colleagues to try and resolve them?
You chose to work for this airline and if you really are that disillusioned with the company then why don’t you just leave?
Most of the employees are working hard to improve and turn this company in to the great place it can be. Why don’t you join in?
How about being more constructive with your comments? What would you like to see change and how do you propose we go about it? A list would be nice to see!
Kind Regards
I’ve just looked through your recent posts regarding Globespan and you really do have an axe to grind.
Why do you feel the need to voice your disappointment on a public forum? Not a very professional attitude for a “professional pilot”!
What do you aim to achieve?
Would your efforts not be better placed discussing the issues you have with your fleet manager and your colleagues to try and resolve them?
You chose to work for this airline and if you really are that disillusioned with the company then why don’t you just leave?
Most of the employees are working hard to improve and turn this company in to the great place it can be. Why don’t you join in?
How about being more constructive with your comments? What would you like to see change and how do you propose we go about it? A list would be nice to see!
Kind Regards
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Globespan has been intending to sell the 4 600's for a while. The 2 classic were earmarked for sale last year and will now take place in March next year.
Yes Globespan owns the 600's and took an opportunity to sell them back to SAS, why? well the current issues with SAS fleet (dash 8 landing gear stess problems) plus if you think about it. 737 is a better aircraft to operate than the dash 8 anyway (feel free to correct me on that if I an wrong).
One of the other issues is with crew. buy buying new aircraft next year Globespan would look at New Gen's therefore creating a little needed commonality at last.
1 type of crew, engineers, manuals, etc etc etc will be the same.
Now to dispel those rumours about Globespan selling aircraft because they are skint , CRAP, Globespan made a profit last year and considering they still have a lot of assets eg: aircraft, property, etc. Another thing people forget about is the holiday side of the business!.
ETOPS issues are being resolved now with the 3 767's getting granted permission.
Globespan is working closely with the CAA to improve practices and procedures and welcome the input from them and their continued support.
It makes me laugh hard when I read posts bitching about Globespan.
Half the time the people doing the bitching work for the company and they should just find somewhere else to work, The other half have absolutely no idea what they are talking about most of the time and are just troublemakers.
Let's face it TD is making money, has more money in the bank than you ever will so he must be doing something right. As far as the airline is concerned thing can only get better and better.
Nuff said , now discuss and watch!!!
Yes Globespan owns the 600's and took an opportunity to sell them back to SAS, why? well the current issues with SAS fleet (dash 8 landing gear stess problems) plus if you think about it. 737 is a better aircraft to operate than the dash 8 anyway (feel free to correct me on that if I an wrong).
One of the other issues is with crew. buy buying new aircraft next year Globespan would look at New Gen's therefore creating a little needed commonality at last.
1 type of crew, engineers, manuals, etc etc etc will be the same.
Now to dispel those rumours about Globespan selling aircraft because they are skint , CRAP, Globespan made a profit last year and considering they still have a lot of assets eg: aircraft, property, etc. Another thing people forget about is the holiday side of the business!.
ETOPS issues are being resolved now with the 3 767's getting granted permission.
Globespan is working closely with the CAA to improve practices and procedures and welcome the input from them and their continued support.
It makes me laugh hard when I read posts bitching about Globespan.
Half the time the people doing the bitching work for the company and they should just find somewhere else to work, The other half have absolutely no idea what they are talking about most of the time and are just troublemakers.
Let's face it TD is making money, has more money in the bank than you ever will so he must be doing something right. As far as the airline is concerned thing can only get better and better.
Nuff said , now discuss and watch!!!
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Yes Globespan owns the 600's and took an opportunity to sell them back to SAS, why? well the current issues with SAS fleet (dash 8 landing gear stess problems) plus if you think about it. 737 is a better aircraft to operate than the dash 8 anyway (feel free to correct me on that if I an wrong).
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Thanks for the response MUFC fan
Ok, granted but from Globespan's point of view the 600's are not great anyway. They use the Classics on the ski-ing routes for PAX loading and Cargo bay size I suppose. Not familiar with SAS routes but they wouldn't have bought them if they were not viable. Rumour is also that Globespan got paid more for them than what they bought them for??
Ok, granted but from Globespan's point of view the 600's are not great anyway. They use the Classics on the ski-ing routes for PAX loading and Cargo bay size I suppose. Not familiar with SAS routes but they wouldn't have bought them if they were not viable. Rumour is also that Globespan got paid more for them than what they bought them for??
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Are GSM planning to order new 73G'S to replace the 736's? An order would have to be placed soon to the ILFC if so, would it not?
Does anybody know what 767's GSM are using G-CEFG & G-CDPT or G-CEOD?
Does anybody know what 767's GSM are using G-CEFG & G-CDPT or G-CEOD?