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at this rate they will need to have a 4th base aircraft
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Belfast-Barcelona was doing very well until they changed the timings to evening flights which had a negative impact on the route. However the Summer 09 schedule is showing a change back to a morning flight and a return later that morning so although day trips are impossible the new timings seem to link with cruise departures and arrivals which is probably the thinking behind the change. It should hopefully do better now.
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as far as im aware they are thinking of keeping BFS-ACE running 2x weekly during the summer... again this hasnt been confirmed so i wudnt think much of it, however from the booking system BFS-LHR will drop to 3x weekly during summer instead of 4x weekly (which i think it was during summer 08?)
well, maybe not increasing base aircraft but maybe bringing in a 4th to BFS to carry out some routes and then it night stops somewhere else.. as the only EI planes that are in BFS are the base aircraft (from what ive noticed)
well, maybe not increasing base aircraft but maybe bringing in a 4th to BFS to carry out some routes and then it night stops somewhere else.. as the only EI planes that are in BFS are the base aircraft (from what ive noticed)
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per CH-Aviation web site on 20 December:
Aer Lingus will set up a second base in the UK in April 2008 when it will base four A320-200s at London Gatwick with plans to base another four A320-200 aircraft there until 2009:
London Gatwick-Faro: 2x daily A320-200 service starting on April 26
London Gatwick-Knock: daily A320-200 service starting on Apil 6
London Gatwick-Malaga: 3x daily A320-200 service starting on April 6
London Gatwick-Munich: 2x daily A320-200 service starting on April 20
London Gatwick-Nice: 2x daily A320-200 service starting on April 20
London Gatwick-Vienna: daily A320-200 service starting on April 20
London Gatwick-Zurich: daily A320-200 service starting on April 26
London Gatwick-Faro: 2x daily A320-200 service starting on April 26
London Gatwick-Knock: daily A320-200 service starting on Apil 6
London Gatwick-Malaga: 3x daily A320-200 service starting on April 6
London Gatwick-Munich: 2x daily A320-200 service starting on April 20
London Gatwick-Nice: 2x daily A320-200 service starting on April 20
London Gatwick-Vienna: daily A320-200 service starting on April 20
London Gatwick-Zurich: daily A320-200 service starting on April 26
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Its True.I really dont think Aer Lingus have given this much thought.Easyjet wont back down on the Shamrock and there really isnt much room for another low cost in Lgw.But i wish them well and i hope it pays off.
I don't know much about the London-Ireland market, but I think Aer Lingus might be a little cleverer than they've been given credit on the other routes.
For big city pairs, London-Munich, London-Zurich and London-Vienna are all remarkably poorly served by LCCs.
London-Munich - flights with AB and EZY from STN, but nothing south of the Thames. Only alternative is BA / LH. Munich has no real proxy-airports
London-Zurich - flights with EZY from LTN. Other alternatives are BA / LX. ZRH is very well connected to the city centre. Nearest proxy airport is BSL which takes over an extra hour to reach.
London-Vienna - daily flights with EZY from LTN mid-afternoon. Ryanair flies to Bratislava, but this takes an extra hour to reach from Vienna compared to VIE. Alternatives are BA / OS
London-Nice - plentiful flights from LGW, LTN and STN but only from EZY who are aware of their market power and charge accordingly in summer. Marseille is over 200 km away by land.
I'm sure EZY will come out fighting on these 4 routes - but I reckon there's room for another player.
For big city pairs, London-Munich, London-Zurich and London-Vienna are all remarkably poorly served by LCCs.
London-Munich - flights with AB and EZY from STN, but nothing south of the Thames. Only alternative is BA / LH. Munich has no real proxy-airports
London-Zurich - flights with EZY from LTN. Other alternatives are BA / LX. ZRH is very well connected to the city centre. Nearest proxy airport is BSL which takes over an extra hour to reach.
London-Vienna - daily flights with EZY from LTN mid-afternoon. Ryanair flies to Bratislava, but this takes an extra hour to reach from Vienna compared to VIE. Alternatives are BA / OS
London-Nice - plentiful flights from LGW, LTN and STN but only from EZY who are aware of their market power and charge accordingly in summer. Marseille is over 200 km away by land.
I'm sure EZY will come out fighting on these 4 routes - but I reckon there's room for another player.
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Will EI reduce DUB's A320s for BFS and LGW
Will EI reduce the number of A320s at DUB in order to accommodate aircraft for BFS and LGW or will we see new aircraft coming in to the fleet?
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A lot of airlines are history at LGW (Zoom, XL, BA and other major airlines move more and more to LHR). So Slots is not the problem right now. FR got also some for their new flights.
But the question about the a/c is interesting because I don't know where EI will take them. EI has 4 A320 on order. Will they be all deliver at the same time for the LGW-Base? And what about the further expansion to 8 a/c?
When will EI publish the traffic results of 2008?
But the question about the a/c is interesting because I don't know where EI will take them. EI has 4 A320 on order. Will they be all deliver at the same time for the LGW-Base? And what about the further expansion to 8 a/c?
When will EI publish the traffic results of 2008?
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EI actually has five 320s on order, one due in June and the other four, from late 2010 to early 2011.
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Depending on the performance of certain routes, it's quite possible that some acft may be transferred from other bases. That said, if a need is identified for more acft, the current state of the industry means that lessors will probably be willing to do a very good deal for EI.
As to traffic figures, the figures for December should be released in the next fortnight, so that should give us the final figures for the year (since EI has been issuing traffic statistics on a monthly basis for a good while now).
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Depending on the performance of certain routes, it's quite possible that some acft may be transferred from other bases. That said, if a need is identified for more acft, the current state of the industry means that lessors will probably be willing to do a very good deal for EI.
As to traffic figures, the figures for December should be released in the next fortnight, so that should give us the final figures for the year (since EI has been issuing traffic statistics on a monthly basis for a good while now).
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Well, the figures are out a bit sooner than I expected!
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Unfortunately, the trend is downwards, with traffic year on year down 4.6%; short haul LF is 66%, vs. 72% on long haul.
The one item is good news is that for the first time ever, EI's annual passenger numbers exceeded 10m.
Dear old MO'L is off on one again, firing off a letter to EI Chmn Colm Barrington to seek clarification on comments relating to EI's perception of its own future and whether it can remain independent:
Ryanair Letter - Does Aer Lingus really have a viable independent future?
On the fleet side, ILFC has placed EI-CRK with Vladivostok Avia for a seven year lease period, starting in April. No word yet on where 'EWR is headed.
JetPhotos.Net Photo » EI-CRK (CN: 070) Aer Lingus Airbus A330-301 by John Fitzpatrick
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Unfortunately, the trend is downwards, with traffic year on year down 4.6%; short haul LF is 66%, vs. 72% on long haul.
The one item is good news is that for the first time ever, EI's annual passenger numbers exceeded 10m.
Dear old MO'L is off on one again, firing off a letter to EI Chmn Colm Barrington to seek clarification on comments relating to EI's perception of its own future and whether it can remain independent:
Ryanair Letter - Does Aer Lingus really have a viable independent future?
On the fleet side, ILFC has placed EI-CRK with Vladivostok Avia for a seven year lease period, starting in April. No word yet on where 'EWR is headed.
JetPhotos.Net Photo » EI-CRK (CN: 070) Aer Lingus Airbus A330-301 by John Fitzpatrick
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Mannion has some neck!!!!!
To think that he would 'slip in' a golden parachute clause into his contract and get yer-man who is fecking off to sign it for him and think this is okay?? Is he for real...shuould he he allowed to operate in the business world at all??? Especially cheeky when dealing with someone else's monies i.e.shareholders.
Here is the rest of us worrying IF we will have a job next month and HE'S FEATHERING HIS NEST!! The guy should be F**KED OUT of office and if I had shares in Aer Lingus I would be be highly agrieved that he is putting himself before me and my investment.
€2.8 Million...jaysus how did he arrive at that figure?? What about the poor buggers in Dell with their capped 52 weeks redundancy even after 15 years service.
Makes me sick to see such greed.
To think that he would 'slip in' a golden parachute clause into his contract and get yer-man who is fecking off to sign it for him and think this is okay?? Is he for real...shuould he he allowed to operate in the business world at all??? Especially cheeky when dealing with someone else's monies i.e.shareholders.
Here is the rest of us worrying IF we will have a job next month and HE'S FEATHERING HIS NEST!! The guy should be F**KED OUT of office and if I had shares in Aer Lingus I would be be highly agrieved that he is putting himself before me and my investment.
€2.8 Million...jaysus how did he arrive at that figure?? What about the poor buggers in Dell with their capped 52 weeks redundancy even after 15 years service.
Makes me sick to see such greed.
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Mannion backs down in contract row
RTÉ Business: Mannion backs down in contract row
Aer Lingus chief executive Dermot Mannion and finance chief Seán Coyle have asked for a controversial condition in their contracts to be removed.
It emerged in recent days that Mr Mannion could be entitled to a payment of up to €2.8m if he chose to leave following a change of control at the airline. This would apply even if the new management were happy for him to continue in his role.
A statement from Aer Lingus said the two directors' decision was taken 'to prevent the issue becoming a needless distraction from the task of ensuring that Aer Lingus maintains independence'.
It emerged in recent days that Mr Mannion could be entitled to a payment of up to €2.8m if he chose to leave following a change of control at the airline. This would apply even if the new management were happy for him to continue in his role.
A statement from Aer Lingus said the two directors' decision was taken 'to prevent the issue becoming a needless distraction from the task of ensuring that Aer Lingus maintains independence'.
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Really doesnt say a lot for his own confidence in EI surviving as an independent if he is organising a little pay off for himself in the event of its failure....without even consulting the board. Has done himself or the airlines cause no favours and this really looks like today he was forced to withdraw this from his contract.
This was organised in October when he was trying to cut costs left right and centre and whinging about the airline loosing 22million while behind closed doors organising a payment of 3m for himself. Disgraceful
This was organised in October when he was trying to cut costs left right and centre and whinging about the airline loosing 22million while behind closed doors organising a payment of 3m for himself. Disgraceful