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Old 6th Jun 2009, 08:02
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as far as im aware the Dubrovnik airline aircraft will only be in BFS today and the 13th June
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The aircraft that had the near miss was C-GTDH, though i dont see why the passengers are angry, frankly id be happy to know the pilots are alert and noticing the small things

As for Manx2, they do have a winning formula, and ive been told that the Let 410s, whilst not being the fastest machines are extremely fuel efficent, a flight from BHD to IOM using as little as 150kg of fuel!! They have been removing the tip tanks on the Lets to make them even more efficient.

As for Jet2, loads on flights are very good, more and more people just having domestic holidays it seems. In some cases the lowest loads are on the Leeds service.

Lastly regarding security at BFS, most of the staff there are helpful and very approachable, but there is a small minority of b******* working there, that make people's lives awkward for the sake of being awkward
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150KG of fuel for the trip? very nice lol... 150KG is what the 319/320 has reserved for taxi ...

yep, Leeds is probably the quietest of the Jet2 services... awful lot of people i know who travelled on it got delayed for a couple of hours quite regulary... can remember one of the A/C sat on stand 17 for 4.5hrs before leaving (PAX on board) refueled due to it using the APU and the steps put in 3 times lol..
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BFS Terminal Expansion

Anybody know when the new security central search is due to open?
Is it going to be ready before the summer rush (ie. end of June / beginning of July) or are we going to see alot more posts on this page singing the praises of airport security...not!

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Has anybody heard what shops and eating houses are coming when the new airside departures area is complete.
Heard Subway is one of them...don't mind paying a bit more for their sandwiches (within reason) than some of the other outlets.
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Old 8th Jun 2009, 16:22
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EWR doing well

Just looking at the provisional caa statistics for April 09. Newark from Belfast up 23% (at 9869) compared with 2008. For some comparison:
EDI 9468,
BHX 9087
GLA 9075
BRS 8031.

Now I know some of these other airports have competition on trans-atlantic services, unlike BFS, but still pretty good going. Only behind LHR and MAN on Continental UK services.

Other figures of note:
EMA BHD +42% BFS -22%
LHR BHD +9% BFS +29%
STN BHD +1% BFS +19%
CWL BHD -11% BFS +44%

Also of interest Munich with EI carrying more passengers (2848) April 09, than EZY carried to Berlin (2391) April 08.
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Old 8th Jun 2009, 23:57
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should be june/july for central search, as for the shops... only thing ive heard is waterstones will probably move in...



rumor has it that EZY will be basing an A320 at BFS arriving in December 09 to run a BFS-TFS service and BFS should also be all airbus by May 2010... lets see if it actually happens
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Old 9th Jun 2009, 00:32
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all bus base - yes.. rollover starts in dec. A320 - very, very unlikely but never let rumour get in the way of a good story.
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i agree as unbelieveable as it sounds for BFS to get an A320 it would be great.... as the rumored date co-incides with the start of the airbus conversion.. and there is the market for the BFS-TFS route (now that they dont have BFS-PRG this winter, theres also room in rotation for a new route even with the reduction of 1 base aircraft that usually happens in winter)
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Old 9th Jun 2009, 13:08
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To be honest, TFS already have EI and LS scheduled and TCX for the package market. Already pretty well covered with 6 weekly flights. Typical Northern Ireland, max the capacity to the typical bucket and spade destinations, but limited choice of destinations overall.

EZY A320 would be great but can we not be a bit more imaginative than TFS. Is there really demand for an A320 at BFS over the winter??
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Old 9th Jun 2009, 13:34
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Typical Northern Ireland, max the capacity to the typical bucket and spade destinations, but limited choice of destinations overall.
agreed, sounds silly.. for another carrier to pick up the route

i would say the demand is there, as the BFS-ACE route proved during winter 08/09.. as there was 3 flights (TCX, EI and was it thomson or LS?) all of which went out full or close to it

im keeping my hopes reasonably high with this rumor... will probably have to wait until august/september before anything more is said
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Old 9th Jun 2009, 14:26
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CWL BHD -11% BFS +44%
From memory didn't WW put on 3/4 extra returns, for the rugby.

I think the most interesting results from April are the IOM. 1000 approx (BFS) and 1400 approx (BHD). BHD has always been the gateway to IOM from NI, IOM/BFS is doing really well. Less flights being the difference.
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correct, WW did put on extra flights for the rugby match
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Flybe/Loganair IOM - BHD and BLK to finish on 12 July. Can't help thinking a direct BHD - BLK could have worked with good timings and, despite Jet2 doing BFS - BLK, would be much easier to fill a Saab 340 than a 737.
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Old 9th Jun 2009, 20:20
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Easyjet A320 for BFS

This would not surprise me one bit, especially since we see the response from Easyjet at LGW to Aer Lingus. Easyjet will be fit to take Aer Lingus on in there most profitable markets from BFS ie TFS and ACE given that the A320 can fly nonstop over this distance.

It will get interesting, Question, will Easyjet start flying to Eindhoven and the new destination that Aer Lingus is about to launch from LGW?
Probably....

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Old 9th Jun 2009, 23:45
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The only mystery is when will the loss making edifice of Aer lingus pull out of their loss making experiment of BFS.


At some point JetII will lose the mail contract and go puff in the blink of an eye.


History is littered with small airlines with big ideas. BMI included.
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Old 9th Jun 2009, 23:58
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The only mystery is when will the loss making edifice of Aer lingus pull out of their loss making experiment of BFS.
theres an awful lot of people posting that dont have a clue on how successful the routes (and BFS in general) are at the minute, and how successful the winter routes will be this year...

due to EI's current cash problems.. isnt every station/base not loss making? are there any in profit? id say BFS is probably one of the better bases since its small and runs the "sun" routes... which are almost full year round

i suppose selling 250,000 more seats than they estimated in the first year is a failure

as for Jet2... im quite sure they can survive without their mail flight

must be another PPRuNe doom n gloom fanatic
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Old 10th Jun 2009, 00:51
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i suppose selling 250,000 more seats than they estimated in the first year is a failure
It is if you have to give them away at silly prices.
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Old 10th Jun 2009, 10:29
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BLE786 Madrid/barajas15:05 LS 0352 Newquay/cornwall15:10 BLE442 Madrid/barajas15:35

Is there some spanish sport team arriving
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The only mystery is when will the loss making edifice of Aer lingus pull out of their loss making experiment of BFS.
Now I'm not naive enough to believe all the EI and BFS spin, especially in these recessionary times when the airlines are having to convince their public they're not going to pull routes or go under, however...

All the press releases I've come across re EI at Belfast are fairly positive. That the base is carrying more passengers than anticipated, LHR is getting better load factors than bmi from BHD, so EI happy with the numbers.

EI then also stated that the base should break even this year. To me that means no longer making a loss, and can start to repay some of the initial investment that was required at start up.

So... If numbers are doing better than expected (albeit weak on certain routes), and the base is to break even, I'm not really sure where the doom and gloom originating.

Like I said, I'm not naive enough to take EI press releases as factual gospel, but where is the evidence or the accurate sources to prove to the contrary. Lets see the facts to have a balanced view of the base. Or are these sources just personal opinions and educated guesses by people not really in the know???

At some point JetII will lose the mail contract and go puff in the blink of an eye.
Again, apparently loads holding up well, attracting passengers from the Republic of Ireland also. Sale fares appeared far and few between when recently looking to book flights.

Is this quote referring specifically to BFS or once they loose the mail contracts, the whole airline will fold??
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