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Old 25th Mar 2008, 19:37
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After arriving at the resort at 3am I had an excellent time, thank you very much, only a couple of iffy weather days, and the flight back was fine, give or take the bun fight at the GVA coral.
As it happens, the day before this trip we booked next year's holiday- on the same flight! I'm sure it will be fine, even given my luck with flights(last few flights: 6 hr delay,lost luggage, 6 hr delay, 6 hr delay, VERY late aborted landing at HKT,ie seconds from touchdown when the pilot spotted a private plane on the runway, and on the 1st plane to go tech at new BKK!!!).

Anyone know what happened to Lauda Air? They were excellent flights from NCL, as long as they got all the luggage on. Quality meals with wine and seconds of wine/tea/coffee. Do they still operate at all? I seem to remember it was a Canadair plane they used.
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Old 25th Mar 2008, 20:05
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ash666 FYI the flight used to be operated by Tyrolean Airlines (now Austrian Arrows) using CRJ or Fokker 70 aircraft. By all accounts a nightmare to handle due to limited hold size and abnormal size of skis etc. Pax did used to comment on quality of the service though and 99.9% it was a very reliable service. I would presume that demand was more than capacity and also it would be cheaper for TUI group to bring as much flying in house as possible. Now that they have 2 based aircraft (back then only 1) they are able to do this.

Regarding skis, still cannot understand why LYS failed - obviously CMF market now taken by Jet2, is there not more demand for ski destinations ex NCL or does INN/GVA/SZG satisfy?
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Old 25th Mar 2008, 20:55
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I mentioned in an earlier post my disappointment at a decrease of choice of resort from NCL, but LYS and CMF are both pretty poor airports as far as charter flights are concerned. CMF wins due to convenience with shorter transfer times to places remote from GVA (and probably cheaper) but also limited with the size of a/c it can take I think (can it take a 757?). Certainly much more prone to weather delays. I still think LYS could dovetail in for the larger a/c if pax are prepared to put up with the cheap seats attitude of it.
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Old 25th Mar 2008, 22:38
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but also limited with the size of a/c it can take I think (can it take a 757?).
ASH: Indeed it can sir. You may be surprised to hear that a 757 has better take-off / landing performance (take-off / stopping distances) than a 737.

Most of the CMF flights that LS ran this winter from it's bases have been on the 757 , with the exception of NCL in most cases, as NCL fleet has what is known as B2 performance rated 737's. (They have more engine power than those of a B1).

CMF is also one mighty 'hell-whole' to get in and out of! Oweing to the fact that there is only one way in and out of the valley, terrain issues, ATC slots etc etc.
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Old 25th Mar 2008, 23:14
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Interesting. I suppose that's why LYS isn't used then.
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Old 26th Mar 2008, 11:39
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Ash,

From your post of your travel woes.
Please post all future travel details so that everyone else can avoid your flights!!!

Hope your next batch of flights go smoothly and that you suffer no delays.
GH
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Old 26th Mar 2008, 13:50
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Maybe I can be paid NOT to fly!

Now back to the NCL forum...
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Old 28th Mar 2008, 00:19
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What on earth is going on when you can use your Airport ID to get into the car park but then the system does not recognise said ID card when you try to leave.

I realise that parking up and getting a paper ticket only takes 1 to 2 minutes but the issue is parking up when you are stuck at the gate with 2 cars behind.

What is going on? Is it a security dept or the car parking dept which is at fault?

While this gripe is nothing in the big scheme of things ( BA and T5) it compounds the problems we have to put up with at this airport and I hope it will be sorted out quickly.

I revise and apologize for an earlier post implying that the NE mindset is the cause of all the problems -it must be a British problem
 
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it compounds the problems we have to put up with at this airport
Any problems in particular??
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Old 28th Mar 2008, 13:34
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1.Revolving doors that trap you in arrivals
2.No crew security channel
3.Inadequate ambulift service
4.Inadequate passenger bussing airside
5.Inadequate crew parking ( thinking ahead to summer)
6.Litter at airport
7.Security IDs that dont let you out of airport parking
 
Old 28th Mar 2008, 15:35
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What on earth is going on when you can use your Airport ID to get into the car park but then the system does not recognise said ID card when you try to leave.


Last night from leaving the office to getting out the car park it took nearly fourty minutes!!! I just hope that it sorted today
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Old 28th Mar 2008, 19:01
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6.Litter at airport
Airside or Landside?
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Old 28th Mar 2008, 19:14
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Litter is in both areas. I appreciate we've had some extreme windy conditions recently but the litter stuck in the red fencing does not create the right impression from a general housekeeping point of view - not to mention the safety aspect in terms of engine FOD ingestion. Am very surprised the airlines have not raised the issue with the relevant people.
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Old 28th Mar 2008, 21:00
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And now some good news for a change. This summers Air Transat A310 flight to Toronto will now not operate inbound via Exeter. Instead both the inbound and outbound flights will be nonstop.

Oh, and a new airline starting at NCL on sunday called Thomas Cook Airlines
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Old 28th Mar 2008, 22:45
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Lets just Hope TCX remeber who is handling them this time next week! Seems they forgot last week!
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Old 28th Mar 2008, 22:50
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How come? What happened?
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Old 29th Mar 2008, 13:41
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And now some good news for a change. This summers Air Transat A310 flight to Toronto will now not operate inbound via Exeter. Instead both the inbound and outbound flights will be nonstop.
Struggling with this one, good news for the punters, clearly bad news for EXT (unless alternate provision) but for NCL?, I would assume that the LF's / demand was extremely high in any event given that the GSM competition this year is no more. Whatever presumably the oceanic sectors would be full &
Pax have no practical alternate. So is this simply the basic case of greater revenue for originating vs transit pax ? else how do NCL revenues benefit ?
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Old 29th Mar 2008, 15:08
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Presumably routing via EXT to pick up/drop of pax, so seems to indicate loads are such that NCL can justify a dedicated flight - more pax are arriving and departing from NCL than TSC originally planned for?
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Old 29th Mar 2008, 18:48
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It's not a dedicated flight if it's routing via Exeter, still a split load just non-stop outward bound.
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Old 29th Mar 2008, 23:14
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Exeter now routing via somewhere else, MAN or BHX IIRC.

TS now YYZ-NCL-YYZ using 310s, with possibly some 330s popping in on subs, not much club class available until september at least.
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