Ryanair - 6

[Bengt]

The annual (or quarterly) "joke"...

The toilet charge is mentioned again....
Just ignore it, it is just a cheap (as anything related to Ryanair) trick to get free publicity. Same with the possibility of FR buying LH...
It would be more interesting to learn about the difference in second hand value for the 737 FR has sold lately compared to those sold a year ago...

[kingston_toon]

Interesting someone mentions the sandwiches... on my flight back on Sunday, the crew were advertising a special offer - half price sandwiches! Well, as Ryanair's sandwiches generally aren't that bad (just overpriced) I went for one. Hmmmm... seems they have a new supplier, and their new sandwiches are... wait for it... FROZEN! On May 31st, my sandwich had a "use by" date of June the 18th, and a warning to store below -18 degrees and to use within 36 hours of defrosting. It was soggy, mushy, and the chicken just tasted wrong.

Has anyone else ever tried frozen sandwiches?! Even at half price (and probably half the cost to FR) I won't be trying them again...

[chrism20]

Have never tried an FR sandwich, although I have wondered on a few occasions how the packaging of a sandwich from an aircraft based in say BHX carries the same brand of 'fresh' sandwiches as an aircraft based in HHN.

Now I know.

Frozen bread tastes bad enough, never mind frozed filled bread.

[leeds 65]

In defence of FR - there on board Coffee , is really good.Saile and sagba is the name,something like that anyway.

I get it when i forget mine !

[OliWW]

Instead of having to equipt aircraft with coin holders etc... why dont they just charge everyone £1 when booking the flight, which will enable them to use the toilet, or passengers can choose to book the toilet online for £1, and then pay £2 to use it without booking in advance by giving money to cabin crew

[uklad007]

i thought i read somewhere - probably untrue - they were working with Boeing to have a credit card swipe rather than coin operated........although if you dont use Visa Electron will they charge the mandatory bank card charge in addition to the £1

[OliWW]

£1, I doubt that, £15 seems more reasonable for MOL!

[captplaystation]

ASFKAP, for the avoidance of doubt/conflict of interest, could you tell us all your previous employment/connection with Ryanair, in which case we could perhaps establish your "viewpoint" as a bona.fida customer, or perhaps a slightly more "tainted" category. By all means be bitter and twisted towards them ( and Hell, lots of people have good reason to be) but are you really such a Saddo as to spend the rest of your life pushing your opinion on the rest of us ? You know the phrase " the record is stuck" ?


BTW the aircraft type B737-800 is certified for 189 plebs. When the plebs realise that Dear Michael just loves you to give him free publicity and desist from doing so, at that moment he may desist from spouting newsworthy (to the mindless ) bullsh1t. But certainly, not before

[lonkmu]

FROM "THEDAILYMASH"

As the Irish-based carrier unveiled plans to penalise customers £40 for choosing to fly with them, mental health experts said it was now vital that friends of the company stage an immediate intervention.

In a statement released yesterday Ryanair chief executive Michael O'Leary said: "Cock-a-doodle-do! Everyone pay attention. These are my new rules.

"You will print out your own boarding pass and pay me for the privilege of doing so. If you do not have a printer you will pay me £40 for not having one and you will then wear a paper hat that I will make for you. The hat will cost £40.

"You will complete a quest. Probably involving a rare gemstone. You will bring me the gemstone wrapped inside a cheque for £40.

"Luggage is a sin and you will be punished for it. Therefore your holiday will last no longer than 14 minutes. If it does I will kidnap your goldfish and charge you £40 a leg to get it back."

A spokesman for the British Psychiatric Institute said: "Ryanair is no longer something to be hated, it is something to be pitied. It's as if Mr O'Leary has suffered some kind of severe mental trauma. Perhaps he has finally flown on one of his own planes.

"He needs to be sedated, isolated and subjected to a twice-daily programme of powerful electric shocks. If that doesn't work we will have to carve out a hefty chunk of his frontal lobe.

"In the meantime we would urge other airlines to step in and start flying to Ryanair's destinations as soon as possible. For the love of God, please."

[pee]

I travel quite a lot and have used Ryanair in the past, but I now avoid them, not because of any particular incident but rather an accumulation of the whole experience.

There are many pax FR could possibly regain (get them flying again), but under some conditions (many ifs and whens to consider). As mentioned:

a relaxing and stress free flight is more important than a 99c ticket

Something MOL just doesn't want to acknowledge.

Myself - I could use their services even more than maybe once a year. But how many times can I fly to Frankfurt Hahn, Riga or Bremen again and again (not much else to pick from Finland)? Without any connecting flights and other destinations on offer - it's boring.

[mickyman]

Pee

50 odd million people would seem to disagree with your
sentiments.......just a thought based on logic.

MM

[Sober Lark]

"50 odd million people would seem to disagree "

Surely an individual who takes 20 flights a year isn't 20 passengers but still 1 passenger??

[mickyman]

Soberlark

That person still has 20 chances of flying with another
operator perhaps ?

MM

[eu01]

"50 odd million people".

I bet FR need them no matter if they are unique or not. The problem lies elsewhere. Ryanair need them also next year. Are they being cherished enough to stay loyal and come again? In addition to that, FR need also a few million more pax every year to fly with them... not every potential customer will react to the "no taxes" campaign. And yet again. The airline needs also a few million people willing to pay clearly more than the "special offer" price. What has been done to woo them? The ridiculous discussion about WC fee will rather scare many away, not because they were too poor to find a coin or two. It shapes the opinions... and prejudices too.

[mickyman]

eu01

A decent post .

ASFKAP

Sad to say your post tailed off to the usual Ryanair bashing -
even though you would never fly with them.Why do you insist
on mentioning costs (optional extras)of Ryanair when you are
a businessman who travels at your companies expense?

MM

[davidjohnson6]

and cost never comes into it whether I'm travelling business or pleasure....

ASFKAP - you appear to be in a rather more fortunate position than many other people !

[racedo]

As I mentioned earlier I travel a lot on business and I hold three loyalty cards with major airlines, two of which are big competitiors of Ryanair

And how are the airlines relying on business customers doing ?

BA down massively and realising its going to stay that way for least another year.

Problem with someone else paying is the person using the service doesn't value it and makes buying decisions which are more designed to up his or her Frequent Flier benefits than the financial good of the company.

[racedo]

I'm not saying they should rely on business travellers but they should at least acknowledge them....

Like what ? Loyalty schemes ? ....No chance as too expensive to run.

The consumer market at the moment is focused on price and forgetting everything else.

One only has to look at the retail food market where price is the key determinant, this however will change when the economy starts to recover but you have to get there in good shape for to be able to benefit.

Grabbing market share at the moment is the key as those who do will be in the position to benefit from the upturn.

I have said it before that when Ryanair get to a certain level and market becomes more mature then they will operate with a different model where price will be important but not the key determinant, I think the market is minimum of 5 years away from that and will probably be post MOL.

[Skipness One Echo]

Grabbing market share at the moment is the key as those who do will be in the position to benefit from the upturn.

That's conventional thinking but Ryanair have been unconventional in that they create new markets and allow people to fly to places they would never have gone to before at unheard of prices. The market from Stansted to QWERTYUIOP International tends to be a Ryanair monopoly (!) The main city that QWERTYUIOP serves may be across an international border and hence the merket is ill defined. Is it city to city or airport to airport?

London - Dublin is easy. Some of the others are from clear cut.

Not disagreeing with you ( for once, I know.... ) just never really been here before I think. This is the first major post loco, economically driven, slump. ( as opposed to post 9-11 )

[racedo]

Skip

True but was only thinking in that regard of city to city as in an upturn thats where competition will want to fly to. It is not economical to do a Stansted to Bari because they don't have economies of scale to do it, where as FR have numbers of flights in and out of there which pay for itself.

Post 9/11 FR tackled the fear of flying by doing mega sales for free and overcome people's fear because they were going for nothing.
This probably saved many companies skin because doing this the sentiment was the US was a one off and confidence returned.

It was betting the farm on this and it worked.