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I think you have a point, but i would be very surprised if Ryanair went down the Airbus path, if you are rated on the bus then a move to rest of the Airbus range is little more than a differences course and the staff turnover would rise with the attendent training costs and reduction in skill levels
Inklet I Agree but as delivery is from 2013 onwards and they would still be flying Boeings until 2018/9 then I would reckon that would work its way through the system pretty quickly.
I also think that Airbus would provide a lot of support to ensure training was available but even if not are there many pilots now with FR who would seriously be there in 6 years time when the bulk will have arrived. Listening to some people the answer is clearly NO.
Never rule anything out as some of the Govts involved in Airbus may want to make big concessions in other ways to FR to gain that level of business.
Interesting whether is a 800 or 900 series they would look at if they went Boeing given 215 seats on a 900 series.
I also think that Airbus would provide a lot of support to ensure training was available but even if not are there many pilots now with FR who would seriously be there in 6 years time when the bulk will have arrived. Listening to some people the answer is clearly NO.
Never rule anything out as some of the Govts involved in Airbus may want to make big concessions in other ways to FR to gain that level of business.
Interesting whether is a 800 or 900 series they would look at if they went Boeing given 215 seats on a 900 series.
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Can you not check-in online up to 14 days prior to the date of your flight? Surely most people won't leave check in till the last minute? I know I always try and do it in plenty of time just in case there is a glitch in the system or my own PC? I'm sure there will be some who don't know and will get hit with a fee to check-in at the airport. It is to be hoped however that as well as the notice on the website the airline has sent an e-mail notification to anyone intending to travel on the 24th advising them of the system down time.
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I can't believe they are actually closing the whole site for an upgrade. This is crap project management and penny pinching on fundamental infrastructure. Even US Airways had the beta site up and running before the changeover.
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, so what's coming next?
This is crap project management and penny pinching on fundamental infrastructure. Even US Airways had the beta site up and running before the changeover.
In my opinion, FR could even attempt to run two systems side by side for a longer time. Or maybe two different interfaces providing the alternative approach to searching and booking.
Much criticized "zero" price + supplementary fees way of selling flights could be complemented by the coexistent "flyryanair.com" (or alike) site showing the total price (all inclusive) first. Needless to say, with the possibility of getting "discounts" during the booking process. No luggage? It's 10 €/£ less. No priority boarding? Look, the price drops again! No credit card, Visa Electron instead? Even less. I wonder how many customers having this option would prefer to do business that way.
The alternative site could also try out the hidden potential of selling some connecting flights. And more!
Unfortunately, I doubt it would even be considered. The ingeniousness doesn't seem to be a strong side of FR sells.
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Dublin and Shannon cuts
Source: RTÉ Business: Ryanair cuts Dublin, Shannon services
Talking about the winter schedules:
I wonder does this impact the schedules loaded to the booking system, or was the talked about reduction already accounted for in loaded schedules... ?
Talking about the winter schedules:
Ryanair is reducing the amount of planes it flies from Dublin by one to 16, while the Shannon fleet will be cut from four to three. This will result in Dublin losing 44 flights a week while Shannon will lose 36.
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After all the provoking FR sloagans -
Arrividerci Alitalia,
Auf Wiedersehen Lufthansa, and
Arrividerci Alitalia,
maybe slán Ryanair may be more appropriate in the Republic of Ireland at the minute!!
Arrividerci Alitalia,
Auf Wiedersehen Lufthansa, and
Arrividerci Alitalia,
maybe slán Ryanair may be more appropriate in the Republic of Ireland at the minute!!
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More grief for O'Leary from the German courts. The 4 euro per person per flight credit card fee has been declared illegal. Gericht verbietet Ryanair-Gebühren für Kreditkartennutzung
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And about time to, not just Ryanair but the other airlines as well. In my view an unjustified charge.
And yes I know about the electron card.
Centre cities
And yes I know about the electron card.
Centre cities
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MOL at Paris Airshow
Conversation between John Lehay & MOL at the Paris Airshow this week.
Mick how’d you doing?
John, not happy wi you boys at Airbus, and its Michael to you
What the problem Mick?
Well the whole world knows am bout to order 300 -900 aircraft and you haven’t replied to my RFP (request for proposals)
Well Mick, there the thing or the ting, I did get it but you didn’t include a cheque for $5million.
What the f**k you mean a cheque for $5 f*****g million,!!?
Well Mick, sorry Michael, you know there a lot of admin in one these RFP ting’s, so we need to cover our Admin cost in order to sell our aircraft cheaper
About we sit down now and do you now a fag packet price job, gimi something to go back at Boeing wiv
Sure, where do wanna start Mick
Well how much gonna charge mi for one of those 320 jobs, a basic one nothing flash, say if I take a 100 now?
Well I think we could do a deal for around $1million bucks a copy
John, that’s a f*****g fantastic deal, were do I sign?
Mick just sign here, is cash or visa electron?
John, you taking the piss or what, you just told me you could do a 320 for $1 million each, so that should be $100 not $10billion………
Mick you need to read the small print and deselect the options
So you want to charge a $1million bucks+ the extra’s??
What’s the extra’s that add up to 100 time the $1 million
Well Mick, you gonna need some engine’s and $4 millions not a bad price is it?
That seems a fair price, but you want to charge me $8 million
Well Mick I thought you might want two
And whats this $9million for?
Seat’s Mick, you know to sit on
What about this $7millon on here for dials?
That ur flight instruments Mick
How’d you get to $6million for paper work
Well Mick you know how expensive paper is and ink and staple’s so we charge $40 a sheet to print it out
Ok Ok I get your drift, but I am paying you cash and you want to charge me an extra $1 million per aircraft, for cash for f**ks sake
Well Mick it cost us a lot more to handle cash, some one has to count it (twice if its coming from a robin **** like you) then someone has to take it to the bank and all the security cost money u know
Ok John I’ve heard enough of this crap from your crappy little manfacturin plant, you can stuff it, I’d much rather deal with some who gives me a price and stick’s to it, not all these bloody extra’s
Mick I know were your coming from, f**k off to boeing
Mick how’d you doing?
John, not happy wi you boys at Airbus, and its Michael to you
What the problem Mick?
Well the whole world knows am bout to order 300 -900 aircraft and you haven’t replied to my RFP (request for proposals)
Well Mick, there the thing or the ting, I did get it but you didn’t include a cheque for $5million.
What the f**k you mean a cheque for $5 f*****g million,!!?
Well Mick, sorry Michael, you know there a lot of admin in one these RFP ting’s, so we need to cover our Admin cost in order to sell our aircraft cheaper
About we sit down now and do you now a fag packet price job, gimi something to go back at Boeing wiv
Sure, where do wanna start Mick
Well how much gonna charge mi for one of those 320 jobs, a basic one nothing flash, say if I take a 100 now?
Well I think we could do a deal for around $1million bucks a copy
John, that’s a f*****g fantastic deal, were do I sign?
Mick just sign here, is cash or visa electron?
John, you taking the piss or what, you just told me you could do a 320 for $1 million each, so that should be $100 not $10billion………
Mick you need to read the small print and deselect the options
So you want to charge a $1million bucks+ the extra’s??
What’s the extra’s that add up to 100 time the $1 million
Well Mick, you gonna need some engine’s and $4 millions not a bad price is it?
That seems a fair price, but you want to charge me $8 million
Well Mick I thought you might want two
And whats this $9million for?
Seat’s Mick, you know to sit on
What about this $7millon on here for dials?
That ur flight instruments Mick
How’d you get to $6million for paper work
Well Mick you know how expensive paper is and ink and staple’s so we charge $40 a sheet to print it out
Ok Ok I get your drift, but I am paying you cash and you want to charge me an extra $1 million per aircraft, for cash for f**ks sake
Well Mick it cost us a lot more to handle cash, some one has to count it (twice if its coming from a robin **** like you) then someone has to take it to the bank and all the security cost money u know
Ok John I’ve heard enough of this crap from your crappy little manfacturin plant, you can stuff it, I’d much rather deal with some who gives me a price and stick’s to it, not all these bloody extra’s
Mick I know were your coming from, f**k off to boeing
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Even KLM is charging 7.50 euros for credit card charges, so let's wait and see about what happens there as well. Scandalous, but the culture has been created by RYR. However, beware. It has been calculated that RYR made
650m euros in charges in 2008. Much of this was CC charges. If they must reduce these then they will increase other charges to compensate. There is no way RYR can reduce it charges as they make up a large part of their profit.
They must maintain the claim they have the lowest fares, which is not the same as the cheapest flight cost.
650m euros in charges in 2008. Much of this was CC charges. If they must reduce these then they will increase other charges to compensate. There is no way RYR can reduce it charges as they make up a large part of their profit.
They must maintain the claim they have the lowest fares, which is not the same as the cheapest flight cost.
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Ryanair - News : Ryanair.com 10 hour closure for upgrade
I would guess, out of all Ryanair's routes, it would have to be DUB-STN
Anyway, just booked Liverpool to Dublin for September - 2 people £30! EI at MAN was £100 as was FR - not bad, thanks FR-LPL!
“Ryanair’s guaranteed lowest fares will see 67 million passengers travel on one of our 800 routes this year."
Anyway, just booked Liverpool to Dublin for September - 2 people £30!
EI at MAN was £100 as was FR - not bad, thanks FR-LPL!
3 possible questions arise over the court's decision in Berlin:
1) Does Ryanair have the right to appeal the decision to a higher court, and would this be feasible ?
2) What is the scope of the decision of the court ? Does it cover consumers with a credit card registered to a German address ? Consumers resident in Germany ? Flights from Germany ? Flights to and from Germany ? If a German resident with a German credit card booked a flight from Italy to Spain, does the court's decision apply ?
3) Is Ryanair able to come up with another fee for German consumers that makes it sufficiently awkward that people end up paying the higher fee anyway ?
Perhaps an option to pay cash at airport offices from 6 am to 6:30 am every 2nd Tuesday in the month, staffed by just one person completing transactions very slowly ?
Hahn for example has the advantage of being sufficiently far from where most residents of Rheinland-Pfalz live, that having an office open weekdays from 10 am to 5 pm when a lot of potential customers are otherwise occupied in a quiet and unvisited (but technically public) area of the airport is sufficiently costly in time and money to reach that many people would just moan and then buy online at higher cost anyway.
Would such a scheme be deemed contempt of court, or would it just be a case of raking in the money for 2 years while German consumer groups go through the lower courts all over again ?
1) Does Ryanair have the right to appeal the decision to a higher court, and would this be feasible ?
2) What is the scope of the decision of the court ? Does it cover consumers with a credit card registered to a German address ? Consumers resident in Germany ? Flights from Germany ? Flights to and from Germany ? If a German resident with a German credit card booked a flight from Italy to Spain, does the court's decision apply ?
3) Is Ryanair able to come up with another fee for German consumers that makes it sufficiently awkward that people end up paying the higher fee anyway ?
Perhaps an option to pay cash at airport offices from 6 am to 6:30 am every 2nd Tuesday in the month, staffed by just one person completing transactions very slowly ?
Hahn for example has the advantage of being sufficiently far from where most residents of Rheinland-Pfalz live, that having an office open weekdays from 10 am to 5 pm when a lot of potential customers are otherwise occupied in a quiet and unvisited (but technically public) area of the airport is sufficiently costly in time and money to reach that many people would just moan and then buy online at higher cost anyway.
Would such a scheme be deemed contempt of court, or would it just be a case of raking in the money for 2 years while German consumer groups go through the lower courts all over again ?
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Talking about the reduction of aircraft in Dublin and Shannon:
Ryanair will switch these aircraft and continue to grow in lower cost/no tourist tax countries such as Belgium, Holland, Greece and Spain where governments have recently scrapped tourist taxes and airport charges to promote tourism.