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Old 9th Jun 2009, 09:24
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I wanted to send a parcel to a friend in Spain but it is actually cheaper for me to fly out with Ryanair and deliver it myself so I will be doing and a day or so in the sun!

Thanks Ryanair - cheaper than Royal Mail inc. yourself!
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Old 9th Jun 2009, 10:07
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So what is the latest rumours on new bases.
here are my thoughts :-

1) Oporto
2) Santander
3) Malta
4) Malaga
5) Valencia
6) Treviso
I see. You seem to consider just Southern airports (as you live in Southern Europe). However, remember Scandinavia (CPH), Germany (SXF? LBC?), Poland (KRK or WRO), other Central-Eastern Europe (BTS?), somewhat unlikely an airport in the Netherlands or France (EIN, BVA).

Once very strong candidate for the FR base, Riga seems to be out of question right now.
Riga Airport President Krisjanis Peters hopes that the Irish low-cost airline will not file suit for the cancelled discounts that it benefited from in Riga.

Riga Airport is currently significantly changing its policy – as of November 2009, airBaltic and Ryanair will lose their 80% discount at the airport and thus also a key competitive advantage over other airlines.

As Peters points out in an interview to the business information Web site "Nozare.lv", the two main questions that will arise for the airlines will be about how to survive competition and retain profitability, writes LETA.

"Profitability does not always go hand in hand with the development budget, however, the previous tariffs allowed to expect certain profit. airBaltic and Ryanair understand very well that in order to escape reproaches about competition distortion, change has to take place. Reiterated criticism in the media does not benefit neither the airport nor the image of the airline. In this case we have reached a compromise solution," the head of the airport underlines.

However, he does not exclude either the possibility that Ryanair could protest against the airport's ruling to no longer offer discounts. No confirmation about such information has been received yet, and it is possible that the airline will not take any action in this matter before November when the new fees will come into force.
(from The Baltic Course)
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Old 9th Jun 2009, 12:32
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If you think about a base in Germany (and FR said that there will be a new base next year) then you have to take into account FMM.

BRI, BDS and SVQ are also favourites.
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Old 9th Jun 2009, 12:39
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If you think about a base in Germany (and FR said that there will be a new base next year) then you have to take into account FMM.
Donīt forget FKB...

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Old 9th Jun 2009, 15:20
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Old 9th Jun 2009, 20:57
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Scanning of boarding passes at security and gate
Sorry if this is ever so slightly off topic...
At the end of the month I will fly with Ryanair:
Charleroi - Dublin
Dublin - Cork
Web check-in, no hold luggage.

In Dublin when I arrive can I go straight to the gate for the Dublin to Cork flight. Or am I forced to exit Dublin arrivals and do the security queue for departures? Because they usually scan one's boarding pass at security. If I stay airside and go straight to board my flight to Cork, my boarding pass will never have been scanned before my arrival at the boarding gate...
See what I mean?

About bases....
Well Brindisi and Bari and hot contenders for the next bases.
Ryanair are also negotiating with the Sicilian airports of Catania and Comiso. The rumoured routes suggest a Sicilian base. A bold move to immediately launch a destination and a base at the same time, but considering there Italian ambitions, not at all surprising. In fact, any Italian base wouldn't surprise me. We've also been promised an announcement soon of a base in Germany, so all existing non-base German destinations are potential candidates. My money being on Memmingen or Karlsruhe.
Indeed, aspirations of a Malta base is public knowledge, and Ryanair want to get it up and running quicksmart if negotiations go in their favour. I'm not holding my breath though. Word of negotiations between Ryanair and Copenhagen have quietened down again. Maybe it'll become a destination before becoming a base anyway.
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Old 9th Jun 2009, 21:24
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The boarding pass scan is to check it is genuine and to prevent non fliers getting airside. So long as you are at the right part of the terminal airside, you can go straight to the next flight.
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Old 9th Jun 2009, 21:42
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In Dublin when I arrive can I go straight to the gate for the Dublin to Cork flight. Or am I forced to exit Dublin arrivals and do the security queue for departures? Because they usually scan one's boarding pass at security. If I stay airside and go straight to board my flight to Cork, my boarding pass will never have been scanned before my arrival at the boarding gate...
See what I mean?
In Dublin arriving and departing passengers in the newer terminal are kept apart, I don't think this is the case with the portakabin.
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Old 9th Jun 2009, 21:54
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Boarding pass scanning procedures

Thanks for the info lads.
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Old 9th Jun 2009, 22:24
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There is a problem at FMM, it is day Ops only and Skippers landing. This is due to runway width of 30 meters (a throw back to its Military past). So I guess a base there would be difficult, especially in winter!

I hear KRH is doing major runway work and BVA is closed at the moment for runway work and Cat3 ILS installation. Maybe these where Ryanair demands in advance of becoming a base. I guess important with BVA, don't want based aircraft and crews diverting overnight! chaos
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Old 10th Jun 2009, 13:04
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Charleroi-Dublin-Cork : I just don't see how you could go straight to the gate for the Cork flight, you have to change piers.
Besides, arriving from a Schengen- to a non-Schengen country, you have to go through a passport control. There is none at ORK when arriving from DUB.
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Old 10th Jun 2009, 15:13
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ASFKAP

Its Mr O'Leary to you - if you dont mind !

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Old 10th Jun 2009, 15:31
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Originally Posted by Coquelet
Charleroi-Dublin-Cork : I just don't see how you could go straight to the gate for the Cork flight, you have to change piers.
Besides, arriving from a Schengen- to a non-Schengen country, you have to go through a passport control. There is none at ORK when arriving from DUB.
As has been pointed out, if you arrive in the "prefab" (D80+?) or indeed in the A pier, there is no separation of arriving and departing passengers so if your onward flight is going from the same area there's nothing to physically prevent you from going to your gate.

(and yes, this does mean that if there is no passport control at ORK when arriving from DUB, and if your CRL-DUB flight arrived in the A pier and your DUB-ORK flight left from the same pier, you would have successfully entered Ireland from the Schengen area without any passport check. I guess the only reason this isn't an even huger immigration loophole than it already is is that you can't be sure in advance that the flights will use the same pier.)
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Old 10th Jun 2009, 15:36
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crl - dub - ork

Charleroi-Dublin-Cork : I just don't see how you could go straight to the gate for the Cork flight, you have to change piers.
Besides, arriving from a Schengen- to a non-Schengen country, you have to go through a passport control. There is none at ORK when arriving from DUB.
I was wondering about that too... But I was thinking that if I follow the signs for "Tranfers" I could pass between piers without passport control.
Or, I pass through passport control, then I'm in the baggage reclaim, and from there I go to the pier I need to be at for the Cork flight by following the sign for "Transfers"... Anyway, I'll see whether or not it's possible and let ye know.

As O'Leary once said, "we're a point to point airline, we don't do transfers, don't come whinging to us if you miss your connection....."
Ya, if my miss my flight to Cork then I'll loose my 7 euros and I'll just rent a car; which I normally do anyway if I'm flying on a Friday evening (instead of a Thursday evening) when the Charleroi flight arrives into Dublin too late for the last flight to Cork.
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Hertz don't do one way drop off fees in Ireland, not sure about any of the rest though.
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Old 10th Jun 2009, 17:36
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Why aren't arriving and departing passengers kept seperate. I assume this allows anyone to wander onwards into the UK?
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Old 10th Jun 2009, 20:07
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Why aren't arriving and departing passengers kept seperate. I assume this allows anyone to wander onwards into the UK?
Maybe someone with a more intimate knowledge of DUB airport operations can answer this one better, but I think it's simply that the core of the A pier (as the name implies) is one of the older bits of terminal infrastructure in Dublin and never provided for segregation. And meanwhile the D prefab, though newer, is just a large shed - segregation costs space and therefore money. Even if arriving passengers were bussed directly to immigration in the name of segregation, the bus often deposits the passengers at an entrance near the newish immigration facility, in front of the old terminal at the base of the A pier...from which they can happily wander back down to the A gates with no obstacles.

I remember once chatting to a successful and iconoclastic airline founder/CEO who said "when I'm not sure how to do something, I look at how the industry does things and then I do the opposite." In the same way, I believe that DUB can serve a vital anti-role-model for the airport industry - any well-meaning airport CEO can look at how things are done in Dublin Airport and then do the opposite, with a high probability of success.
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Old 10th Jun 2009, 20:30
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Hertz don't do one way drop off fees in Ireland, not sure about any of the rest though.
Thanks.
The plan is to rent a car anyway. Cork (Thursday) to Shannon (Sunday). If I miss my flight to Cork, then I'll just rent Dublin (Thursday) to Shannon (Sunday). No fear of no more cars being available, not with the recession and all that. They nearly beg you to rent a car, and then you get all sorts of free upgrades when you mention "I'll just try out the competition before committing".
I've tried all the rental companies down through the years, and all the websites, and all the brokers. At the end of the day, they've all effed me over at one stage or another, and now I only use AVIS and am a very happy AVIS customer

Anyway, if CRL - DUB is not too much delayed I'll make the DUB - ORK flight. (Sorry for distracting this forum from the regular discussions)...
CRL - DUB: 1900 - 1935
DUB - ORK: 2050 - 2140
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Old 10th Jun 2009, 23:43
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It'd be great to have a drive off a big beast of a car all right for a laugh.

Does Avis, Hertz etc rent out cars like Porsche's etc?
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Old 11th Jun 2009, 00:01
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As a polite request, could I suggest someone starts a 'Rental cars at airports' thread somewhere in the 'Passengers and SLF' section ?

I'm sure there's plenty that can be discussed and would be very interesting to a number of people who look at PPRuNe, but I think it would attract interested readers in a much better way than using the Ryanair thread for this purpose.
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