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A very valid point Seat62K..
last year I flew BHX-OLB for £34 one way all in with RYR, This year they want £89 all in one way. Therefore EZY has just got my money at £29 one way from LGW..I'm easy at which airport I fly from as I work all over the UK and Italy...So what is going on...are EZY panicking to get the cashflow in or are RYR pushing up the price to then make an artificial 75% off sale later on ?
last year I flew BHX-OLB for £34 one way all in with RYR, This year they want £89 all in one way. Therefore EZY has just got my money at £29 one way from LGW..I'm easy at which airport I fly from as I work all over the UK and Italy...So what is going on...are EZY panicking to get the cashflow in or are RYR pushing up the price to then make an artificial 75% off sale later on ?
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Although I prefer Ryanair to easyJet, the ridiculously high fares for summer flights on the routes I use (compared with the fares for easyJet flights released recently) mean that Ryanair has lost my business.
No doubt, these Ryanair fares will decline in future but I couldn't take the risk of waiting as I needed to be certain of travelling on certain days.
Ryanair's loss, easyJet's gain...
No doubt, these Ryanair fares will decline in future but I couldn't take the risk of waiting as I needed to be certain of travelling on certain days.
Ryanair's loss, easyJet's gain...
? Or he just gives his old customers a chance to wait, use their experience and get the best fares?But indeed, FR is somewhat unpredictable in many respects. Some people like gambling, other prefer more certainty instead.
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Seat62K, I think it's just that their yield management department is a lot more active than other airlines. Most of the others choose to have a fairly static pricing mechanism starting at a reasonably low price (but not without taxes & charges) and gradually rising as seats fill & the date approaches, obviously there are exceptions with various offers but as a general rule that's how they operate.
On the other hand Ryanair choose to offer very low 1c/€1/€10 fares. Even with a lower cost base than competitors clearly they need to supplement these with 1. ancillary revenues and 2. a wider variation of ticket price paid across all the passengers so that the average fare is still a profitable one!
They essentially have a U type fare structure, starting fairly high and ending back up at high levels as seats sell/the date approaches. Their logic seems to be that early planners will want to get their flights sorted and booked so therefore will be less price sensitive. They catch the bargain hunters in the middle and then balance it out again by hitting last-minute business & unplanned passengers with high fares which at times can be higher than competitors. A more risky approach overall I suppose but it seems to work and it definitely works for me!
On the other hand Ryanair choose to offer very low 1c/€1/€10 fares. Even with a lower cost base than competitors clearly they need to supplement these with 1. ancillary revenues and 2. a wider variation of ticket price paid across all the passengers so that the average fare is still a profitable one!
They essentially have a U type fare structure, starting fairly high and ending back up at high levels as seats sell/the date approaches. Their logic seems to be that early planners will want to get their flights sorted and booked so therefore will be less price sensitive. They catch the bargain hunters in the middle and then balance it out again by hitting last-minute business & unplanned passengers with high fares which at times can be higher than competitors. A more risky approach overall I suppose but it seems to work and it definitely works for me!
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Fighting again
Ryanair lodged today appeals against eight separate EU decisions to block its access to documents in the Commission’s ongoing State Aid investigations against tiny regional airports - Hamburg (Lübeck), Berlin-Schönefeld, Tampere, Alghero, Pau, Aarhus, Bratislava and Frankfurt (Hahn).
Ryanair's Jim Callaghan said:
“The Commission’s unlawful refusal to allow Ryanair to access documents in their investigation contravenes the principle of openness and transparency enshrined in the EU Treaty, and flies in the face of EU transparency legislation, which gives the public the right to access Commission documents. These unjustified refusals are damaging the travelling public, and deny Ryanair the ability to defend these ongoing State aid cases.
“The Commission fails to provide any justified reason for refusing access to these documents and is simply afraid to grant access to evidence of the Commission’s biased and flawed application of the EU State aid rules.
“It is no coincidence that nine of the ten State aid investigations at European airports launched by the Commission since July 2007 concern Ryanair and easyJet. It is part of the Commission’s policy aimed at undermining the competitors of ailing national airlines and there is no basis whatsoever for any of these bogus investigations which simply give Alitalia and other failing airlines some breathing space before the next ‘rescue’ plan can be rubber-stamped.
“Ryanair will continue to expose the Commission’s biased and flawed application of the State aid rules in favour of failed national carriers”.
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Ryanair's Jim Callaghan said:
“The Commission’s unlawful refusal to allow Ryanair to access documents in their investigation contravenes the principle of openness and transparency enshrined in the EU Treaty, and flies in the face of EU transparency legislation, which gives the public the right to access Commission documents. These unjustified refusals are damaging the travelling public, and deny Ryanair the ability to defend these ongoing State aid cases.
“The Commission fails to provide any justified reason for refusing access to these documents and is simply afraid to grant access to evidence of the Commission’s biased and flawed application of the EU State aid rules.
“It is no coincidence that nine of the ten State aid investigations at European airports launched by the Commission since July 2007 concern Ryanair and easyJet. It is part of the Commission’s policy aimed at undermining the competitors of ailing national airlines and there is no basis whatsoever for any of these bogus investigations which simply give Alitalia and other failing airlines some breathing space before the next ‘rescue’ plan can be rubber-stamped.
“Ryanair will continue to expose the Commission’s biased and flawed application of the State aid rules in favour of failed national carriers”.
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Seat62K, I think it's just that their yield management department is a lot more active than other airlines
Ryanair yield management is the worst of the industry
Every clever airline knows at what price it should start according to previous years
But Ryanair doesn't have any clue of that because its systems are rubbish
NEVER book a Ryanair ticket 6 months before the date of the flight: NEVER!
If you want to travel during week days, the cheapest option is 1 month before the date of the flight (probably the only airline in the world in that case), and if you want to travel a week-end, it's usually 3 months before.
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h&s, Ryanair's flight prices are very very tactical. Yield analysts at Ryanair are VERY good at their jobs as is the marketing department. The constant fluctuation in Ryanair fares €1 one day €40 three days later and back to €5 the next week according to demand is brilliantly tactical.
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Its all too easy for some people on here thinking he/she can run an airline better but the fact is that, Ryanair is one of the worlds biggest airlines, within a short space of time. h&s maybe you should write into Dublin head office. And yes the mid week tickets take longer to sell, unless your flying to somewhere like TFS.
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Wouldn't happen with RyanAir!
RyanAir did not take on all of the Southwest model!!!
Taken from:
AIRLINE BIZ Blog | The Dallas Morning News
Southwest employees picket at Love Field
3:30 PM Thu, Nov 13, 2008 | Permalink | Yahoo! Buzz
Terry Maxon E-mail News tips
Southwest Airlines ground workers picketed Thursday afternoon at the entrance of Dallas Love Field, where Cedar Springs meets Mockingbird Lane, in support of a better contract.
The employees, represented by Transport Workers Union Local 555, and the airline are hung up on compensation, primarily the size of pay raises. They've asked the National Mediation Board to assist in the talks, which began in January.
The employees, who are seeking pay increases that roughly match the increases in the cost of living, carried signs with messages that repeated that demand, including:
WE KEEP LUV IN THE AIR
COST OF LIVING IS ONLY FAIR
IS THIS REALLY SOUTHWEST AIRLINES?"
WHAT HAPPENED TO PUTTING EMPLOYEES FIRST?
DOING MY PART EVERY DAY - COST OF LIVING WITHOUT DELAY
Southwest Airlines has said it is confident that the two sides will be able to come to an agreement soon.
The NMB has picked mediator Gerry McGuckin to assist the talks.
Taken from:
AIRLINE BIZ Blog | The Dallas Morning News
Southwest employees picket at Love Field
3:30 PM Thu, Nov 13, 2008 | Permalink | Yahoo! Buzz
Terry Maxon E-mail News tips
Southwest Airlines ground workers picketed Thursday afternoon at the entrance of Dallas Love Field, where Cedar Springs meets Mockingbird Lane, in support of a better contract.
The employees, represented by Transport Workers Union Local 555, and the airline are hung up on compensation, primarily the size of pay raises. They've asked the National Mediation Board to assist in the talks, which began in January.
The employees, who are seeking pay increases that roughly match the increases in the cost of living, carried signs with messages that repeated that demand, including:
WE KEEP LUV IN THE AIR
COST OF LIVING IS ONLY FAIR
IS THIS REALLY SOUTHWEST AIRLINES?"
WHAT HAPPENED TO PUTTING EMPLOYEES FIRST?
DOING MY PART EVERY DAY - COST OF LIVING WITHOUT DELAY
Southwest Airlines has said it is confident that the two sides will be able to come to an agreement soon.
The NMB has picked mediator Gerry McGuckin to assist the talks.
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Strange Goings-On At Madrid
Can anyone explain the following? Recently, leaving Madrid, passengers descended the stairs from the gate and boarded a bus, only to be transported a matter of yards to the aircraft. They could have walked to it in a fraction of the time.
I can't see Ryanair forking out for the unnecessary expense of this ridiculous coaching operation, so I assume that for some reason the airbridge was inoperative and AENA, the airport operator, has a rule which prohibits passengers walking on the tarmac to the aircraft.
P.S. I understand that Ryanair management reversed its decision to increase the charge for purchasing Priority Boarding at the gate area at Stansted (and elsewhere?) from £4 to £8 partly as a result of pressure from staff who have to sell it. (I assume, too, that these sales plummeted!)
Many thanks for the interesting comments on yield management.
I can't see Ryanair forking out for the unnecessary expense of this ridiculous coaching operation, so I assume that for some reason the airbridge was inoperative and AENA, the airport operator, has a rule which prohibits passengers walking on the tarmac to the aircraft.
P.S. I understand that Ryanair management reversed its decision to increase the charge for purchasing Priority Boarding at the gate area at Stansted (and elsewhere?) from £4 to £8 partly as a result of pressure from staff who have to sell it. (I assume, too, that these sales plummeted!)
Many thanks for the interesting comments on yield management.
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Ryanair eyes 36 new jet / fleet on par with BA's
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Think pprune beat travel mole to it See top of the last page/bottom of the one before it for more on Gatwick. Travel mole does report a reduction of DUB by 1 Daily potentially
See top of the last page/bottom of the one before it for more on Gatwick. Travel mole does report a reduction of DUB by 1 Daily potentially
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sporadic?
Sporadic System Error -18 November 2008 - Ryanair.com
There is a sporadic error message occurring when customers are booking flights or using the Manage My Booking section of our website. A error message is appearing which states 'Unable to Calculate Fees for the Requested Items'. Customers receiving this message should refresh the web page and resubmit their request.
We apologise for this problem which should be rectified shortly by our system provider.
There is a sporadic error message occurring when customers are booking flights or using the Manage My Booking section of our website. A error message is appearing which states 'Unable to Calculate Fees for the Requested Items'. Customers receiving this message should refresh the web page and resubmit their request.
We apologise for this problem which should be rectified shortly by our system provider.
"The problem should be rectified". Well, better go to pub. Unlike you, they usually serve genuinely rectified product there.
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Had a small glitch today for about 30secs and then seemed to rectify itself in time for me to book at £20 return PIK - STN. Having said that something as crucial (and as expensive) as an airline website should have 'glitches'