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Old 24th Jan 2008, 20:11
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I hope they choose DSA as a base but i'd say that'll be unlikey.
With Doncaster being so close to EMA, but you never know.
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Old 25th Jan 2008, 06:41
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Dsa-dub

Yes, DSA is close to East Midlands, but so is Birmingham and did that stop FR from setting up a base there.
You also have to look at how many overnight parking stands are available in the East Midlands area against how many routes FR want to operate. Also two (or three) bases close to each other helping in playing off each airport against each other when charges are negotiated.
Will DSA happen? No idea.
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Old 25th Jan 2008, 09:22
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Ryanair new charges = new evidence there yield will be very very low for the 2nd half year 2007... Bad news for the shareholders...

Of course, they are rubbish when they said that it is to encourage free on-line check-in The people which usually don't need to check-in at the airport are business travelers, but they are not ryanair main targets, and they don't need an increase of these charges to know it exists. These charges will obviously increase the charges for families that are OBLIGED to check-in at the airport.

Increasing charges has a direct incidence on the bottom line as it is a very easy way to generate pure margin. No need for long studies or brain (as always), just be brutal! And these fees are of course never refund by Ryanair (in case of cancelation, no shows etc)... Only good points for them, and bad points for passengers.

According to me, it just shows that the company is currently in a bad shape and quiet "vulnerable" (what is doing easyJet???) with all their new crap bases (MAD, MRS, BRE, BHD, BOH)
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Old 25th Jan 2008, 13:37
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fuel surcharges

Ryanair as always say no fuel surcharges,but i have just noted on their website 2 huge price increase with immediate effect
checking in a bag goes up by 20% to £6.00
airport check in goes up a massive 50 % from £2 to £3.00
if that isnt a hidden fuel surcharge then what is ??
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Old 25th Jan 2008, 14:38
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Mind you, both of those surcharges are possibly avoidable whereas a fuel surcharge definitely isn't.
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Old 25th Jan 2008, 22:46
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Bad Shape????

aerospace said:

According to me, it just shows that the company is currently in a bad shape and quiet "vulnerable"
I hardly think that an airline making 300+million Euros profit and with 2 billion + euros in the bank is in bad shape!!
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Old 26th Jan 2008, 02:08
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Hidden charges

It always surprises me that the media scream at Ryanair about all these extra 'hidden' charges for luggage, checking in, etc.

You go through the booking process on the net, decide whether you have hold baggage, and/or want fast check in, decline or accept the insurance and then look at the total price. If you like the price, you confirm it, if you don't you look up other airways or revise your holiday plans.
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Old 26th Jan 2008, 11:58
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The point is that one needs to spend quite some time to arrive at the actual price rather than hitting a few buttons on the initial screen and having the real fare popping up. It can be quite tiring to check all different websites to find out comparative figures if they make it that troublesome to receive a fare quote.


That said, the recent increase in fees more than likely has to do with preparations to bow to EU pressure and change the way how fares are displayed on Ryanair's website. EU requires that the actual "fare" is shown early in the booking process, so Ryanair now tries to raise the fees for "voluntary extras" as the EU cannot demand them to be included in the "fare" (as not everybody will need/buy it). that said, I expect Ryanair to introduce even more such "extra" that will allow to make the "fare" appear very low.
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Old 26th Jan 2008, 13:58
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According to me, it just shows that the company is currently in a bad shape and quiet "vulnerable" (what is doing easyJet???) with all their new crap bases (MAD, MRS, BRE, BHD, BOH)


According to me, you have no idea what you´re talking about.

You go through the booking process on the net, decide whether you have hold baggage, and/or want fast check in, decline or accept the insurance and then look at the total price. If you like the price, you confirm it, if you don't you look up other airways or revise your holiday plans.


Probably the best-ever reply on PPRuNe.
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According to me, it just shows that the company is currently in a bad shape and quiet "vulnerable" (what is doing easyJet???) with all their new crap bases (MAD, MRS, BRE, BHD, BOH)


According to me, you have no idea what you´re talking about.
Saying that MAD, MRS, BRE, BHD and BOH are terrible bases show that I have a better idea than you of what I am talking about ;-)


I hardly think that an airline making 300+million Euros profit and with 2 billion + euros in the bank is in bad shape!!

I hardly think that a company that lost 40% of its share prices in one year is in a very good form ;-) You're right, they are still a big cash-maker, but the second half 2007 was very bad, and will affect their financial year results


You go through the booking process on the net, decide whether you have hold baggage, and/or want fast check in, decline or accept the insurance and then look at the total price. If you like the price, you confirm it, if you don't you look up other airways or revise your holiday plans.

Totally agree. But they are not obliged to say their usual bull**** that it is for encouraging people to check-in. It's only to increase easily their revenue because of the drop of their yield, that's it.
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Old 26th Jan 2008, 17:20
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Saying that MAD, MRS, BRE, BHD and BOH are terrible bases show that I have a better idea than you of what I am talking about ;-)
Of course! I suppose that´s why you give sweeping comments - the vast majority with clearly some agenda toward Ryanair - with no evidence to back-up what you claim. Thus, why should we believe you? (I could, after all, claim to be Barack Obama.) So, give us your sources, and we´ll consider them.
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Old 26th Jan 2008, 20:31
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True or false anyone... 6 or 7 B777 lined up in the desert waiting for blue and yellow livery?
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True or false anyone... 6 or 7 B777 lined up in the desert waiting for blue and yellow livery?
What is the source of this news?
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Old 26th Jan 2008, 22:36
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To be honest, I spoke to a Ryanair captain half a year ago and he said they had ordered 6 777s. Time will tell.

But I don't think you can find 6 777s in the desert. But there are 5 Unidentified777 orders from march last year
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Old 30th Jan 2008, 17:21
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Ryanair new route: Dusseldorf, Weeze (NRN) to Saarmelleek, Balaton (SOB) 2x week from 2 April
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Old 30th Jan 2008, 18:11
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Presumably an order as large as six 777s would have to go for shareholder approval and if the order was six months ago, I would have expected that to come up by now.
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Ryanair advertising

Hows this for a superb bit of free advertising, having been told to withdraw the schoolgirl advert by the ASA national newspapers (3.5 million readers) Ryanair refuses and then the BBC gets hold of it and gives the item a prime time news slot with the advert plastered all over the screen. Absolute genius !

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/7216926.stm
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Old 30th Jan 2008, 18:57
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Just ban Britney Spears as well!
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St. Trinians with MO'L in the role of Flash Harry? Now there's type casting!
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Old 31st Jan 2008, 11:00
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This one may not work out so cheap for the "free" advertising...

BBC: Sarkozy sues Ryanair over advert

French President Nicolas Sarkozy and his girlfriend Carla Bruni are suing low-cost airline Ryanair over a picture of the couple it used in an advert.

The photo shows a thought bubble coming from Ms Bruni, saying: "With Ryanair, all my family can attend my wedding." The former model is seeking 500,000 euros ($743,000; £373,000) - the amount she says her photo normally costs.



Ryanair has apologised for using the couple's image without their consent, but insists it meant no offence. "It was a humorous comment on a matter of great public interest," a Ryanair spokeswoman in Dublin told Reuters news agency.

The picture features in an ad for 100,000 cut-price fares, published on Monday by the daily Le Parisien.

Mr Sarkozy, 53, and Ms Bruni, 40, are filing separate suits against the Irish airline. The couple's lawyer, Thierry Herzog, is quoted by AFP news agency as saying her damage claim was based on the fact that "the average cost for using her image for visual advertising on French territory was in the region of 500,000 euros".

Mr Sarkozy is seeking a symbolic one euro in damages.

Both cases are being heard in a Paris court on Thursday.
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