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Old 26th Nov 2008, 06:12
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Ryanair slam Blackpool for introducing a 10 GBP Development Fee telling everyone you have to drive down costs.
Ryanair themselves charge 5 € for payment handling fee per flight, 5 € airport check in fee, 4 € priority boarding fee, 10 € baggage fee and 15 € per kilo excess baggage ( I know some of these fees are avoidable).
A bit rich slamming the airport on fees!!
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Old 26th Nov 2008, 07:04
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All these fees are avoidable.
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Old 26th Nov 2008, 08:18
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All these fees are avoidable.
Absolutely. Last ten tickets I booked were 2p return or to a max of £10 return (2 x £5 single) with no further charges.

Have travelled to/from Ireland this year over 10 times - total cost, just over £50.
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Old 26th Nov 2008, 08:59
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Ryanair ex Gatwick

Ryanair have already announced the start up off ALC and GRO from Gatwick in late December , is this now a shift towards making Gatwick a major base for themselves ?

Latest new route to be talked about is now LGW - NRN . Thats three new routes in a month

What other destinations does anyone feel will be benefical to Ryanair out of Gatwick and the chances of them happening soon ?

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All these fees are avoidable.
Depends what country you live in.

The credit card fee is not avoidable to most Irish people, as to avoid it one needs to use a type of card which is not actually available in Ireland. Unless you have a bank account in another country, something only our wonderful politicians seem to have
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Old 26th Nov 2008, 09:17
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The credit card fee is not avoidable to most Irish people, as to avoid it one needs to use a type of card which is not actually available in Ireland.
True - two possible options for regular Irish Ryanair travellers:

1. UK Post Office Travel Money Card (Electron) - pre-loaded, available in Euros but you need a UK friend who will accept delivery of it.
2. Current account with Lloyds TSB Spain - available to Irish residents and issues an Electron card.

Check the relevant websites for details. I'm not guaranteeing success but they are possibilities. Hope it helps!
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Old 26th Nov 2008, 12:28
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LGW-NRN new route!?

News - 2008-11-25 Ryanair
They've made an official announcement on their site.
The Weeze to Stansted route will effectively move to Gatwick.
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Ryanair have already announced the start up off ALC and GRO from Gatwick in late December , is this now a shift towards making Gatwick a major base for themselves ?

Latest new route to be talked about is now LGW - NRN . Thats three new routes in a month

What other destinations does anyone feel will be benefical to Ryanair out of Gatwick and the chances of them happening soon ?

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Manchester has received new flights - more than LGW and they have not become a base. I don't think there are enough slots available at LGW for an FR base
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Old 26th Nov 2008, 16:34
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I looked on the FR website for a random January date. LGW-NRN is once daily. NRN-STN remains, but goes from 3 to 2 times a day
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Old 26th Nov 2008, 16:39
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Exactly.

One STN flight moves to LGW.
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Old 26th Nov 2008, 17:17
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Ryanair has been constantly very bullish about its prospects, its pace of growth and the future expansion. Verbally. But what we actually observe these days is pretty far from that. Some new routes announced, almost the same amount of other links terminated, like they were just fiddling around, preserving the status quo. Bases are being opened, but the other ones closing / development plans abolished. Much more cautious attitude than one could have anticipated.
Becoming more realistic? Re-thinking the strategy? Realizing the limits of the present approach?

Just in case. I'm not bashing FR right now, pondering only...
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Old 26th Nov 2008, 21:00
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The new routes at LGW are not really a surprise as LGW has haemorraged airlines in the last months.

Central Wings, Wizzair, Zoom, Sterling, Excel, Continental, Delta, NW, American have all upped sticks so there is a lot of spare capacity at LGW.
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Old 26th Nov 2008, 21:50
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Exactly.

One STN flight moves to LGW.
The Weeze flight that is operated by a Weeze based aircraft will moved to Gatwick.
The 2 other flights are operated by a Stansted based aircraft, so more difficult to move in the short term...
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Old 27th Nov 2008, 07:58
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All London flights are operated by NRN a/c since NRN became a base last year

NRN-STN:
6.50-7.00 7.30-9.40
16.15-16.25 16.50-19.00 (1-3-5-7)
20.05-20.15 21.20-23.30 (2-4-6)
NRN-LGW:
17.30-17.40 18.10-20.20
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Old 27th Nov 2008, 12:45
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third option for Irish, seeking for a Visa Electron:
entropay.com, card in Pound Sterling, will be accepted as an electron card.
Sometimes you will have to use "Entropay User" as Cardholder´s Name and the address of Entropay.
Some Germans use this virtual card for booking Ryanair Flights.
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Ryanair press release 27 Nov 2008

News Release
27.11.08
Cornwall’s Calamity Council and RAF Close Newquay Airport

AND STRAND PASSENGERS OVER CHRISTMAS

Ryanair, the UK’s favourite airline, today ( 27th Nov) condemned the “Keystone Cops” of Cornwall County Council, and the RAF at Newquay, who notified Ryanair last night (at 19.40 hrs) that Newquay Airport would close in just four days time (on 30th Nov), until at least the 19th December. It appears that this closure (see original notification here) has been caused by the failure of Cornwall County Council to take over the airfield navigation services from the RAF St Magwan on the 30th November next as previously agreed.

Cornwall County Council now “expects” to be able to reopen the airport on the 19th December, although there is no guarantee or certainty that this date will be achieved.

Ryanair today condemned the incompetence of Cornwall County Council and the disregard of the RAF at Newquay for the travelling public. If Cornwall County Council are not in a position to take over the airfield services on Monday, then surely it is not unreasonable to expect the RAF to keep Newquay open for another 3 or 4 weeks and avoid the airport’s closure and the disruption of the flight plans of thousands of passengers travelling to and from Newquay in the run up to Christmas.

Ryanair has no alternative other than to cancel all flights to and from Newquay with effect from Monday, 1st December, until further notice. Because Ryanair has no confidence in Cornwall County Council or their ability to meet the ‘expected’ reopening date of the 19th December we are not willing to take the risk of accepting thousands of passenger bookings over Christmas and New Year when this calamitous Council can shut the airport at just four days notice.

Ryanair will not relaunch services to/from Newquay Airport until the “Keystone Cops” of Cornwall Co. Co. has proven that the airport has reopened and there will not be any further closures at such short and unreasonable notice. Accordingly, Ryanair regrets that there will be no flights to/from Newquay over Christmas and the New Year, but this is entirely due to the incompetence of Cornwall County Council and the unwillingness of the RAF to keep Newquay Airport open during the month of December.

Ryanair’s spokesman, Stephen McNamara, said today:

The situation at Newquay has descended into farce. It is simply unacceptable that Ryanair and its passengers are given just four days notice of the closure of Newquay Airport for the month of December. We will now have to contact thousands of passengers over the coming days (many of whom will be abroad and will be unable to travel back to Newquay) and tell them that the airport has been closed due to the incompetence of Cornwall County Council and the unwillingness of the RAF to keep the airport open for a couple of weeks.

We will be encouraging all passengers to make compensation claims directly to Newquay Airport and Cornwall County Council who are responsible for this shambles and incompetence. Passengers should contact Newquay airport directly on 0044-1872- 322-002.

This is just the latest in a long series of mismanagement of Newquay Airport by Cornwall County Council. Twelve months ago these clowns introduced and Airport Development Fee which caused a 50% decline in passenger traffic on the Newquay – London route. Now the Council have failed to meet their long planned airport takeover date of the 1st December. It should not be beyond the wit of Cornwall County Council to persuade the RAF to keep the airport open for the month of December. Sadly they couldn’t even manage this and, as a result, flights and passengers will now be stranded with just four days notice.

Ryanair cannot run the risk of stranding passengers over the Christmas and New Year period if Cornwall County Council again miss the 19th December date and it is therefore with regret that we have cancelled all flights to and from Newquay Airport until further notice and we will not relaunch these flights unless and until Cornwall County Council and Newquay Airport have demonstrated to Ryanair’s satisfaction that there will not be further closures and service interruptions at Newquay Airport.

We apologise sincerely to all passengers who will be disrupted by this Council’s incompetence in Cornwall and we will be spending the next four days trying to contact all passengers to assist them with alternative flights and routings, back to the UK for those who have recently travelled abroad with Ryanair and are now unable to return to Newquay Airport because Cornwall County Council and the RAF have closed it.



NEWQUAY AIRPORT has opened a passenger information hotline at 0044-1872- 322-002 and all passenger queries should be addressed directly to this number or to Mr Chris Cain, Newquay Cornwall Airport at 0044-1872-322000.
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Old 28th Nov 2008, 10:47
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Smoke and Mirrors

What is Ryanair really up to? is MOL using a 'claimed' breakdown in relationships with various airport operators as a convenient cover for the downsizing of his company in these difficult times?

Two recent media reports:

25.10.08
Ryanair is to withdraw flights from Blackpool Airport in January in protest at the introduction of a new passenger charge. The budget airline has axed its daily services to Dublin and its Girona route after the airport announced a £10 airport development fee, which will be payable by all passengers over 16 years old from January 5 - although the will get free airport parking.
The airport says that the revenue generated from its new fee will be used to fund a £2 million development plan to upgrade runways, taxi-stops and the apron. However, Michael Cawley, chief executive of Ryanair, said: : ‘The management's decision, against Ryanair's advice, to introduce an airport development fee is an extremely regressive step which inevitably involves a massive increase in the cost of travel for passengers through the airport.’
More than 1.3 million visitors have used the airport with Ryanair since the routes were launched in 2003. This route cancellation is the latest in a series of scheduled closures and flight reductions announced by Ryanair in recent weeks.
Ryanair will stop flights from the airport on January 4, the day before the fee is introduced. However, Blackpool Airport has said that it is ‘within days’ of signing a new major airline to replace the lost flights. Sounds like Aer Arann again to us (they recently replaced an axed Prestwick - Dublin service, and there is an animosity between the two Irish airlines).

20.11.08
Ryanair has threatened to scrap flights from airports, including Stansted to Fuerteventura in a dispute with local tourist bosses. The budget airline has said it will close all its routes to and from Fuerteventura from January 31 unless a local tourism group ‘honours a commercial agreement.’
Ryanair has carried 250,000 people on nine routes to the island since 2006. However, the budget airline warned that it will close all of its routes from the Canary island from January 31 unless local tourism group AIE honours a ‘commercial agreement’ to promote Fuerteventura as a tourist destination.
The airline blamed a breach of the agreement for the cancellation of a flight from Dublin earlier this month. Ryanair now says it will withdraw services to Fuerteventura from Birmingham, Bremen, Dublin, Dusseldorf (Weeze), East Midlands, Frankfurt, Liverpool, Stansted and Shannon if agreement is not reached on the alleged contract breaches before December 6.
Ryanair has also started legal action against AIE and its individual members for breach of agreement.
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Old 28th Nov 2008, 11:13
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No idea but they've gone OTT regarding the situation with Newquay Airport.

They know that the airport will be shut until the 19th December. So what have they done? Instead of cancelling just the flights affected 1st-19th December, or routing via Plymouth as Air Southwest are doing, they have cancelled all flights in December to Newquay "until further notice"

BBC NEWS | England | Cornwall | 'Keystone Cop' airport criticised
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Old 28th Nov 2008, 11:21
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An interesting theory and with merit should this continue, however in relation to the overall size of the operation at the moment the downsizing would be small fry.
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Old 28th Nov 2008, 11:27
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No idea but they've gone OTT regarding the situation with Newquay Airport.
Might disagree If the muppets taking NQY over only work out at 4 days to go they cannot run an airport, not sure I'd trust their 19th Dec "opening"...

For once, I'd agree with MoL, and just leave NQY well alone until it is actually open and running....

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