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Even better!
Latest news reports just keep getting better.....they are reporting now
Its Approved - Great News
Reports are now saying the environmental requirements are a formality the Airport has 2 weeks to comply with and then all is done!
Well done to all involved and such good news for us all!
Its Approved - Great News
Reports are now saying the environmental requirements are a formality the Airport has 2 weeks to comply with and then all is done!
Well done to all involved and such good news for us all!
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Great news planning permission granted.....Subject to chapter 106 agreements passing scrutiny. (which they will).
Full story here.....Including the ridiculous anti arguments...
Birmingham Airport runway extension plans approved - Birmingham Post
Full story here.....Including the ridiculous anti arguments...
Birmingham Airport runway extension plans approved - Birmingham Post
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And so it grinds slowly on........
Birmingham Airport required a year to assemble the Planning Application despite previously thinking about it for goodness knows how many years.
Solihull Council Planners take a year to consider Birmingham's application and now Solihull Council decides not to decide just yet.
The fact that Solihull Council is throwing up 'environmental concerns' after looking at these plans for a whole year is to my mind bizarre.
How on earth can BHX mitigate 'possible noise disruption for local residents' beyond what has already been suggested?
Only in the UK....
Birmingham Airport required a year to assemble the Planning Application despite previously thinking about it for goodness knows how many years.
Solihull Council Planners take a year to consider Birmingham's application and now Solihull Council decides not to decide just yet.
The fact that Solihull Council is throwing up 'environmental concerns' after looking at these plans for a whole year is to my mind bizarre.
How on earth can BHX mitigate 'possible noise disruption for local residents' beyond what has already been suggested?
Only in the UK....
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BHX Runway extension approved
Great news for Birmingham International....Good news for aviation....
Full story here....
Birmingham Airport runway extension plans approved - Birmingham Post
Full story here....
Birmingham Airport runway extension plans approved - Birmingham Post
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I posted my little gripe before I saw your later news from the Birmingham Post so you'll have to let me off with a smacked wrist this time.
I'll hold you to your 'two weeks' though so if there's a hitch it's on your head.
I posted my little gripe before I saw your later news from the Birmingham Post so you'll have to let me off with a smacked wrist this time.
I'll hold you to your 'two weeks' though so if there's a hitch it's on your head.
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extension to the extension
Because the site goes back to the 1930's they will need to a, extend it along 15/33 by 400 M and then b) broaden the runway by 3040 M and finaly use the diagnal 29/11 as a properly aligned Rwy - then they can fly to Aus etc - 45 Years late
PS theres a old V Bomber 9000 Ft rwy down the road at Gaydon in Warks.(That may need re building - but it points the way the wind blows- )
Wonderfull.
CAT III
PS theres a old V Bomber 9000 Ft rwy down the road at Gaydon in Warks.(That may need re building - but it points the way the wind blows- )
Wonderfull.
CAT III
To service a £130m extra debt would need around £10m free cash flow that would need maybe £30m more turnover due to extension.
Most of the existing costs are fixed (extension or no extension they will still need to be paid), the extension will not force a huge need for additional people or cost as have spare capacity already, maybe some frontline for additional flights but given the peaks and troughs of a normal airport it probably would not have a huge impact on costs.
Its a good move for Birmingham as remember them talking of it 15 years ago.
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Not quite!
It's looking good but whilst the planners are minded to approve, they haven't rubber stamped the decision as it's subject to negotiation on section 106 (i.e. what improvements they can get the airport to pay).
Below is the statement from the airport:
Runway Decision Deferred
Following the decision by Solihull Metropolitan Borough Council to defer Birmingham International Airport’s Planning Application to extend its runway subject to further negotiations, the CEO of the Airport, Paul Kehoe, said:
“The Airport Company is pleased that the Council is unanimously minded to approve the Airport's Planning Application subject to a further review of 106 Agreements that provide protection and reassurance for local people.
"Although it is disappointing that we did not get approval this evening, the Airport will continue the dialogue with Solihull Council so that a positive decision can be made early in the New Year.
“In the meantime, I would like to thank my team for their tireless work so far over the last two years, and to all of our supporters in the Region who have shown passion and support for our plans.”
The Airport’s current runway limits the range of long-haul destinations available, which currently include: the East Coast of America and some parts of the Middle East and India. A runway extension would allow the Airport to accommodate flights to the West Coast of America, South Africa, South America and Asia, and would go a long way in clawing back some 64% of demand which currently goes outside of the region for air travel.
Forecasts show that by 2030 Birmingham Airport will cater for 27 million people, with the runway extension accounting for four million of this number and leading to around one extra departure an hour from the airport. The four million extra passengers purely from a runway extension would be very important, bringing wealth and prosperity to the region through overseas investment and supporting regional commerce and tourism.
The development also has the potential to generate an extra 2610 new jobs for local people and enable it to trade with an extra 100 plus new global economies, providing regional economic growth and even more jobs in the region.
A positive decision would create real opportunities to enhance international trade for the Midlands. A runway is critical to the achievement of Birmingham’s aspirations to be a world city; through the air links it provides and the role it can play in attracting inward investment, fostering international trade, supporting regional business, commerce and industry, stimulating inbound tourism, and enhancing cultural links.
The environmental effects would be negligible after mitigation and compensation. All emissions would stay within acknowledged standards, natural habitats protected, no veteran trees lost, and other hedgerows and trees replaced locally. It would be part of a legally-binding agreement with the Council which the Airport would comply, as it always has.
Birmingham International Airport is a public/private partnership. The current shareholders include the seven West Midlands district councils (49%), Airport Group Investments Ltd. (AGIL), a limited company owned by the Ontario Teachers' Pension Plan (Teachers') and Australia’s Victorian Funds Management Corp. (VFMC)(48.25%) and the Employee Share Trust (2.75%).
It is the UK’s second largest airport outside London, the third largest for charter traffic, and the UK’s sixth largest overall. In 2007 9,232,496 passengers used the Airport, 0.9% more than in 2006.
Below is the statement from the airport:
Runway Decision Deferred
Following the decision by Solihull Metropolitan Borough Council to defer Birmingham International Airport’s Planning Application to extend its runway subject to further negotiations, the CEO of the Airport, Paul Kehoe, said:
“The Airport Company is pleased that the Council is unanimously minded to approve the Airport's Planning Application subject to a further review of 106 Agreements that provide protection and reassurance for local people.
"Although it is disappointing that we did not get approval this evening, the Airport will continue the dialogue with Solihull Council so that a positive decision can be made early in the New Year.
“In the meantime, I would like to thank my team for their tireless work so far over the last two years, and to all of our supporters in the Region who have shown passion and support for our plans.”
The Airport’s current runway limits the range of long-haul destinations available, which currently include: the East Coast of America and some parts of the Middle East and India. A runway extension would allow the Airport to accommodate flights to the West Coast of America, South Africa, South America and Asia, and would go a long way in clawing back some 64% of demand which currently goes outside of the region for air travel.
Forecasts show that by 2030 Birmingham Airport will cater for 27 million people, with the runway extension accounting for four million of this number and leading to around one extra departure an hour from the airport. The four million extra passengers purely from a runway extension would be very important, bringing wealth and prosperity to the region through overseas investment and supporting regional commerce and tourism.
The development also has the potential to generate an extra 2610 new jobs for local people and enable it to trade with an extra 100 plus new global economies, providing regional economic growth and even more jobs in the region.
A positive decision would create real opportunities to enhance international trade for the Midlands. A runway is critical to the achievement of Birmingham’s aspirations to be a world city; through the air links it provides and the role it can play in attracting inward investment, fostering international trade, supporting regional business, commerce and industry, stimulating inbound tourism, and enhancing cultural links.
The environmental effects would be negligible after mitigation and compensation. All emissions would stay within acknowledged standards, natural habitats protected, no veteran trees lost, and other hedgerows and trees replaced locally. It would be part of a legally-binding agreement with the Council which the Airport would comply, as it always has.
Birmingham International Airport is a public/private partnership. The current shareholders include the seven West Midlands district councils (49%), Airport Group Investments Ltd. (AGIL), a limited company owned by the Ontario Teachers' Pension Plan (Teachers') and Australia’s Victorian Funds Management Corp. (VFMC)(48.25%) and the Employee Share Trust (2.75%).
It is the UK’s second largest airport outside London, the third largest for charter traffic, and the UK’s sixth largest overall. In 2007 9,232,496 passengers used the Airport, 0.9% more than in 2006.
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Possible new routes
There would be many more possibilities for new and reinstated old routes ex BHX with the runway extension in place.
Airlines such as AA struggled with payload restrictions with 767-300 equipment
Certainly ORD,ATL,JFK, (Delta Airlines supported BHX plan to lengthen the runway)BOS,IAD,IAH,MIA,LAX,SFO,DOH,DEL,BOM,DAC,SIN,BKK,HKG,P VG would all be possible and possibly more profitable with the runway extension in place.
As for holiday makers certainly more SFB with the A330s of TCX and MON which currently cannot use BHX runway outbound non-stop. Mexico, Caribbean and Indian Ocean MLE,CMB,MBA would be do-able without a stop. YVR, DEN and YYC for Winter ski charters would also be possible.
Note this isn't a wish list just a list of routes that would be possible (some or most of these may never operate ex BHX) but are possibilities.
One of the above routes may well be announced in the near future watch this space!
Daza
Airlines such as AA struggled with payload restrictions with 767-300 equipment
Certainly ORD,ATL,JFK, (Delta Airlines supported BHX plan to lengthen the runway)BOS,IAD,IAH,MIA,LAX,SFO,DOH,DEL,BOM,DAC,SIN,BKK,HKG,P VG would all be possible and possibly more profitable with the runway extension in place.
As for holiday makers certainly more SFB with the A330s of TCX and MON which currently cannot use BHX runway outbound non-stop. Mexico, Caribbean and Indian Ocean MLE,CMB,MBA would be do-able without a stop. YVR, DEN and YYC for Winter ski charters would also be possible.
Note this isn't a wish list just a list of routes that would be possible (some or most of these may never operate ex BHX) but are possibilities.
One of the above routes may well be announced in the near future watch this space!
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Good post Daza. As you say not a wish list but all possibilities.
China will be a definite with the MG links. Probably through HK to rope in the tourists as well.
It will enable BHX to have a better mix of routes and airlines which will only strengthen it's position.
China will be a definite with the MG links. Probably through HK to rope in the tourists as well.
It will enable BHX to have a better mix of routes and airlines which will only strengthen it's position.
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If you look at the link below you will find (on Page 25) the current forecast of routes wich could make up the long haul destination list at BHX over the future.
http://www.bhx.co.uk/planning_applic...s%20Report.pdf
http://www.bhx.co.uk/planning_applic...s%20Report.pdf
Well, I just hope they will cope with all these extra widebody flights to all points around the globe. Yesterday morning Terminal one only had two security X-ray channels open and consequently a long queue. Great customer service BHX!