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Old 17th Jul 2010, 09:01
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The CEO of Air India is visiting BHX today, He's being flown up from London by Helicopter and being wined and dined courtesy of BHX. Perhaps something will come of it. You can't say they aren't trying....
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Air India/Routes

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Now that is the kind of thing you want to hear. Although there is little doubt that BHX is trying its hardest in respect of route development and that as a prospective traveller(and good for the region) is all you need to know.

It might be fair to say that in the past some questioned if that was happening especially when BA were present.

I will post the June route analysis soon and they are okay but I dare say yields were a bit soft in places due to the World Cup but certainly not all doom and gloom.

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June Route Analysis

Source of the monthly passenger figures: CAA

Average pax per flight and load factor: A BHX Blog and my own records.

Right, no ash cloud problems so the only thing I do
not have to hand are flybe cancellations so some of
routes they are on could have higher load factors

Things to consider for June 2010, the World Cup, warm
UK weather and there were five Tuesdays & Wednesdays.
That last one can be quite significant as they are the weaker
days of any month. Another example how this distorts
would be Ryanair Porto - pax down this year but in fact
load factor increased 5% and there were 3 more pax
per flight.

Continental was showing one flight cancelled on the
bhx blog increasing their load factor. PIA cancelled two
Saturday services and one Tuesday plus swapped one
77W flight for a 772 making an excellent June load
factor of 79%.

I can't remember seeing so many load factors near 90%
in June, lets hope the airlines also got the desired
yields to match.


2009 figures in brackets.

BRUSSELS 9578(9710) 40 PER FLIGHT/47% LOAD FACTOR
LARNACA 6638(5120) 151 PAX/78%
COPENHAGEN 6466(6656) 70 PAX/70%
BERGERAC 1797(1266) 53 PAX/68%
BIARRITZ 2583(3563) 144 PAX/76%
BREST 625(805) 39 PAX/50%
LA ROCHELLE 1122(941) 43 PAX/55%
LYON 2897(2232) 31 PAX 66%
NICE 5702 (6447) 110 PAX/82%
PARIS CDG 28007(27572) 56 PAX/64%
TOULOUSE 428(333) 54 PAX/69%
DUSSELDORF 13764(12383) 40 PAX/50%
FRANKFURT 23001 (20290) 64 PAX/64%
HAMBURG 2897(2192) 48 PAX/62%
HANOVER 4077(3901) 46 PAX/59%
MUNICH 11032(8978) 70 PAX/81%
WEEZE 3629(4340) 140 PAX/74%
STUTTGART 3698(2806) 39 PAX 50%
CORK 6715(5104) 134 PAX/77%
DUBLIN 45395(44642) 131 PAX/73%
KNOCK 3448(4394) 107 PAX/72-75%
WATERFORD 1242(1629)39 PAX/55%
MILAN MXP 3609(2796) 60 PAX/56%
TRIESTE 2117 (2015) 118 PAX/62%
MALTA 1924(3527) 120 PAX/84%
AMSTERDAM 36877(32461) 90 PAX/70%
FARO 18589(13711) 148 PAX 79%
OPORTO 2577(2736) 161 PAX 85%
ALICANTE 26504(26012) 156 PAX/85%
ALMERIA 1501(4717) 188 PAX/87%
GIRONA 5489(4004) 161 PAX/85%
IBIZA 9188(5593) 158 PAX/78%
MAHON 5946(7216) 175 PAX/82%
MALAGA 29015(29578) 156 PAX/85%
MURCIA 8972(14711) 145 PAX/84%
PALMA 17214(23593) 146 PAX/88%
REUS 3923(6661) 151 PAX/80%
ARRECIFE 6751(3271) 161 PAX/79%
FUERTEVENTURA 3121(0) 173 PAX/81%
LAS PALMAS 5255(0) 173 PAX 81&
TENERIFE 13644(8437) 155 PAX/85%
GOTHENBERG 2154(1450)31 PAX 68%
ZURICH 12099(12416) 67 PAX/67%
ISTANBUL 3481(3164) 87 PAX/61%
ANTAYLA 821(0) 103 PAX - SPLIT WITH LGW?
PRAGUE 5805(8904) 171 PAX/90%
KAUNAS 3120(2484) 173 PAX 92%
BYDGOSZCZ 3895(2996) 166 PAX/88%
GDANSK 3035(2938) 169 PAX/89%
KATOWICE 2686(4949) 149 PAX/79%
KRAKOW 4270 (5021) 164 PAX/87%
RZESNOW 3075(2603) 171 PAX/90%
BRATISLAVA 4314(3828) 166 PAX/88%
ASHKAHBAD 3939(3923) 116 PAX/61%
TEHRAN 3140(0) 131 PAX/55%
DUBAI 37392(34006) 316 PAX/77%
ISLAMBAD 7689(7668) 275 PAX/79%
NEWARK 9283(8655) 160 PAX/90%.

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Old 17th Jul 2010, 13:58
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Thanks Pete.....
True about them not trying too hard in the past....To be fair they didn't need to try that hard as the money was flowing in. It's a different game now and they are starting from behind. I've no doubt that being the only major airport with planning for extension in place will see benefits over the coming months....
If not, I look forward to seeing all those new, expensive, route getters and marketers being sent back to whence they came....
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MILAN MXP 3609 60 pax 56%

This is an odd one, bearing in mind both BHX and MAN are now down to one daily rotation, it seems scant to say the least!

OltonPete, no doubt you'll remember (like me) when BA operated a 1-11 daily on LIN - BHX - MAN (or was it MXP?). Not much has changed!
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Milan

Hi jongeman

Yes I remember the 1-11 and indeed it was Linate.

BHX - LIN/MXP has always been a bit hit and miss pax wise although it was one of those routes where yields are supposed to be okay.

The June figure was quite good in fact I can't find anything similar
since 2008 when I think it was 145's.

I am surprised at Manchester just one daily with the figures they get.

BHX is even being cut even more, winter is showing 5 weekly Q400!

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I only remember BA912/913 routing GLA-MAN-LIN?! When did they operate MAN-BHX-LIN?
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It was before that Ringwayman.....probably late 70s into the mid 80s? It ran for a few years.
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Air India CEO at BHX

Agree with you Olton Peter that 'that is the kind of thing we want to hear'.

If we are at the point when a substantial petition by the Midlands public in favour of a direct route to India has had some effect, then I would hope that BHX will issue some form of statement to explain what, if any, progress is being made on this front.

It would be wrong to curry (forgive the pun) the support of the public to support direct routes to the sub-continent and then leave them in the dark. The oxygen of publicity can be a valuable weapon...
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BHX - MXP was operated by a Maersk 737 under the BA franchise. It operated twice a day Mon - Fri and once on Sat and Sun. It used to be busy in business class most of the time. The Italian CAA changed the operation from LIN to MXP.
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If not, I look forward to seeing all those new, expensive, route getters and marketers being sent back to whence they came....
Hmmm...real workers or Kehoe's cronies up for the chop? Don't need to consult Mystic Meg for that one!

Has BHX declared its annual report and accounts for 2009/10 yet?
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Air India

Rumour has it that Air India CEO has been to BHX this week and was accompanied by the Indian PM.
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Daza...Look at post 3244 further up the page....
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Oh I love the rumour mill and it's is now in overdrive - so AI are now setting up a hub and SQ are due to grace BHX using a 330. Really? My hat is ready to proverbially eat
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BHX-MXP

Looking at my flight log i flew BHX-LIN in the late 80's on a Gulfstream 1 of BEA . took 2 and half hours. (and some people moan about the DHC8 )
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Daza...Look at post 3244 further up the page....
My point was that the Indian PM was in attendance too.
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Flybe EMB175

Flybe plan to acquire the EMB175 aircraft (see the link below). Maybe BHX will get several of these?
Embraer Wins a $1.3 Billion Order for 35 Aircraft From U.K. Carrier Flybe - Bloomberg
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Old 20th Jul 2010, 15:39
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Originally Posted by Daza
My point was that the Indian PM was in attendance too.
Sorry Daza.
They went to Rolls Royce also and are probably going to take in Farnborough as well...I suppose it's wait and see at the moment.
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HSR link

Is it just me that think this ? The airports determined and steadfast backing of the High speed rail link will just mean another alternative means to get to Heathrow to catch your intercontinental flight. It WON'T be the other way around. People will always fly from Heathrow , because that’s where the airlines fly from , they won't move to the region unless Heathrow is forced to close and the site developed . For goodness sake just look at the idiotic scramble to get into Heathrow when the bermuda 2 treaty was scrapped , and these were airlines that previously only operated 40 miles away (LGW) so there is no chance of them moving over 100 even if the pax could get to BHX from london quicker than it takes to get through the security check.
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You are right, Some will obviously take the train south. However, with there being no expansion at LHR or any of the southern (Or anywhere) airports being allowed Some airlines will be looking for markets outside LHR. As it becomes more and more congested and the charges rise accordingly some will want to move.
That said, I don't think BHX is pinning anything on the HSRL. It won't be completed for at least 20 years if at all. They are just backing it because it's part of Birmingham and Birmingham want it.
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