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Aer Arann Cork-Dublin
Did anyone else read the article in today's Examiner about Aer Arann on the Cork-Dublin route? It revealed that the routes loss making because of the significant overcapacity on the route. Apparantly the route is under constant review and they've given the business community a "use it or lose it" ultimatum. I'd say unless thay can get the Aer Lingus codeshare in place soon, the writings on the wall for the service. It'll be a shame after holding out for 2 and a half years to see RE finally conceding to Ryanair.
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When Arann say use it or lose it, Cork should listen. They've walked from Shannon a couple of times!
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Apparantly the route is under constant review and they've given the business community a "use it or lose it" ultimatum.
Nice job Micheal.
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Centralwings unbookable on ORK-WAW and ORK-WRO after FEB 12th. CSA, Malev and now Centralwings. It's not only the GAA in Cork that's in trouble.
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If we've really lost all these Eastern European routes, then it's time Cork airport bent over backwards to replace them. They should be lobbying Wizzair day and night to base a plane in Cork. Warsaw, Wroclaw, Katowice, Gdansk and Budapest would definitely keep a based aircraft busy.
Normally a route only qualifies for reduced fees if it's a new route or if it hasn't been operated in more than year. Cork airport will need to relax this "if it hasn't been operated in more than a year" rule if they're anyway serious about replacing the lost routes
Normally a route only qualifies for reduced fees if it's a new route or if it hasn't been operated in more than year. Cork airport will need to relax this "if it hasn't been operated in more than a year" rule if they're anyway serious about replacing the lost routes
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Warsaw update
Latest rumour is that EI are reconsidering ORK-WAW in the light of Centralwings decision. CAA need to keep talking to customers particularly overseas airlines for whom Cork Airport is only a dot on the map.
Cork is a 24 hour airport. This was brought in 1999 because of an astronomical overtime bill due to old agreements negotiated as far back as the 1970's. However Centralwings and Wizz ran into constant hassle whenever they tried to operate after midnight. What's the point in 24hr opening if you can't cater for night operations. Imagine Tesco hassling customers who want to shop at their 24hr stores after midnight.
I'd imagine that there will be a replacement found for WAW and WRO or possibly new routes to Poznan or Lodz which will cater for the general catchment areas. WIZZ and possibly Ryanair would be the obvious candidates for the latter two routes.
Cork is a 24 hour airport. This was brought in 1999 because of an astronomical overtime bill due to old agreements negotiated as far back as the 1970's. However Centralwings and Wizz ran into constant hassle whenever they tried to operate after midnight. What's the point in 24hr opening if you can't cater for night operations. Imagine Tesco hassling customers who want to shop at their 24hr stores after midnight.
I'd imagine that there will be a replacement found for WAW and WRO or possibly new routes to Poznan or Lodz which will cater for the general catchment areas. WIZZ and possibly Ryanair would be the obvious candidates for the latter two routes.
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Latest rumour is that EI are reconsidering ORK-WAW in the light of Centralwings decision. CAA need to keep talking to customers particularly overseas airlines for whom Cork Airport is only a dot on the map.
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Why couldn't they just have left things as they were instead of pulling a stunt like this.
The airline are renowned for forever chopping and changing their routes and schedules. In the long run Cork are better off without such an unstable airline, but that's hard to say right now as we're left with no one on these routes
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Cork-Dublin
With the news about Warsaw I forgot to say the FR Cork-Dublin timetable has changed to incorporate the flights to Carcassonne. There will only be 1 morning flight to Dublin on a Wednesday operated by a Dublin aircraft, leaving Dublin at 07.55 and leaving Cork at 09.10. There will only be 2 flights on Satuday and Sunday. Flights go back to the normal timetable when Carcassonne ends in September
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Whilst this may be typical behavior for Centralwings, I would much prefer to see them maintain these routes rather than have Ryanair take them up. One of Cork's strengths has been the variety of airlines and not just relying on one or two - however as time goes on this seems to becoming the case.
As for the centralwings warsaw and wroclaw services from Cork. They have always been notoriously late in updating their schedules and booking engine, and until it is actually announced that they are withdrawing these routes, i would hold out some hope for them. Just lookin at Shannon's schedules, the Katowice service for march is shown as operating inward on Mon, Tue, Wed, Thur, Fri - yet the outbound only operates on Mon, Wed, Fri. So where does the aircraft go on the other 2 days??? Is this just showing how sloppy their website is ??
Let hope for now.....
As for the centralwings warsaw and wroclaw services from Cork. They have always been notoriously late in updating their schedules and booking engine, and until it is actually announced that they are withdrawing these routes, i would hold out some hope for them. Just lookin at Shannon's schedules, the Katowice service for march is shown as operating inward on Mon, Tue, Wed, Thur, Fri - yet the outbound only operates on Mon, Wed, Fri. So where does the aircraft go on the other 2 days??? Is this just showing how sloppy their website is ??
Let hope for now.....
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the Katowice service for march is shown as operating inward on Mon, Tue, Wed, Thur, Fri - yet the outbound only operates on Mon, Wed, Fri. So where does the aircraft go on the other 2 days???
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That still does not account for the 2 extra flights inbound from Katowice during the month of March.
GDN-SNN-GDN is operated by one aircraft In at 2210 / Out at 2245
The Warsaw service does originate in Katowice and routes KTW-SNN-WAW but on 3 days of the week Only - As the Inbound KTW comes in 5 days - there are 2 unknown outbounds.
GDN-SNN-GDN is operated by one aircraft In at 2210 / Out at 2245
The Warsaw service does originate in Katowice and routes KTW-SNN-WAW but on 3 days of the week Only - As the Inbound KTW comes in 5 days - there are 2 unknown outbounds.
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If Aer Lingus did want to add an extra A320, there's probably the business for it now. They'd have Warsaw and Budapest to themselves. Amsterdam, Paris and Manchester could probably take more rotations as well. There were 138 pax on the Amsterdam-Cork service last night and if you're achieving an 80% load on a Thursday evening in January, there should be few worries about making it double daily every day in the summer too. Perhaps with Ryanair gone from the route out of Shannon, Madrid may become an option again.
In the meantime, all other avenues should be pursued to get a renewed service to Warsaw. Other than CentralWings, who has aircraft based in Warsaw? LOT, Wizzair and Norwegian spring to mind. Any others?
In the meantime, all other avenues should be pursued to get a renewed service to Warsaw. Other than CentralWings, who has aircraft based in Warsaw? LOT, Wizzair and Norwegian spring to mind. Any others?
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Was trying to book on the ei724 for tuesday evening ( 5 feb ) but the flt is not bookable and neither is the retuning leg of ei725. Has anyone got an idea why flt may not be operating ? Surely the they haven't sold out on both legs for a tuesday evening !!!!
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It sure looks that way. There are only the 715 723 currently available for sale right now on tuesday. 723 is asking 149e.w! Looks like a busy day on tuesday! Seems to be very few free seats, only in full fare economy, each direction.
In my experience the 725 is a very popular flight and has been consistently sold out when I have taken it. My dad has also used it on occasion and it has been packed to the gills then too. 724 is not usually so popular.
In my experience the 725 is a very popular flight and has been consistently sold out when I have taken it. My dad has also used it on occasion and it has been packed to the gills then too. 724 is not usually so popular.