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RE's traffic to Edinburgh was up 4% year on year for the month of December. However, that compares to a 14% rise in November. Considering the Ryanair flights started on December 13th, it looks like they've wiped out all of RE's growth, leaving them with the same base number of passengers. However, as there are extra RE rotations, that translates to a lower load factor.
It might be interesting to note that even with the lower frequency and only operating for a portion of the month, Ryanair carried more passengers to/from Scotland than Aer Arann.
It might be interesting to note that even with the lower frequency and only operating for a portion of the month, Ryanair carried more passengers to/from Scotland than Aer Arann.
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They might not have fully finalised the schedules at this point, possibly introducing new frequencies, and/or routes. These flights seem to do well, by all accounts, I hope they don't go!
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Shudder the thought that there would be no link left between Cork and Warsaw from either EI or Central Wings. Your would think that there has got to be some market for Warsaw when Krakow, Katowice and Gdansk are all bookable for summer 08. Not to mention Wroclaw - mind you my visit to that city some years ago was achieved via a flight to Berlin and then a five hour or so train ride to Wroclaw. Hope both Polish routes are saved - to lose them both on the heels of Budapest would be a setback. To say the least.
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Cork always seems to be the last flights to be loaded with Centralwings, but this is even later than normal for them. Whatever about Wroclaw, I'd be very surprised if they axed Warsaw considering they're just after driving Aer Lingus off the route. However most of the routes from Warsaw were only loaded earlier this month so they may load the flights yet. Flights from Stansted to Warsaw also aren't loaded.
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Cork has not had too much to cheer about in recent weeks what with the departure of Malev from Budapest and the uncertainty noted about Central Wings' intentions as to Warsaw and Wroclaw for the summer but at least on this Saturday evening it was still encouraging to see a good ramp of ski related charters parked up from Austrian Airlines and bmi. At one point two bmi A320s were parked alongside each other on Stands 6 & 7. Quite a sight and one you would not expect to see readily at Cork. Nearby on Stand 9 was one of the day's two Austrian Airlines's Fokker 100s and next to her was an Austrian A320 in the Lauda colours.
An impressive ramp which complemented the Ryanair, Aer Lingus & Aer Arann movements. I watched the 2nd Fokker 100 take off from 17 heading back home to Austria and in the crisp, clear and cloudless sky kept her in view for what seemed like ten minutes after she had left. Very nice. One of the Atlantic Air Training Cessna 172s was up as well at the time taking advantage of the fine evening to get in some practise at the VOR DME approaches.
Eventually the FR907 from STN appeared making her way down the ILS to 17 for another safe arrival at Cork with She Whom Must Be Obeyed on board at the end of another trip over to see the Mammy.
Whatever other moans we may have about the place and, yes, there may be many but on a night such as this you just cant beat Cork Airport.
No where like it.
An impressive ramp which complemented the Ryanair, Aer Lingus & Aer Arann movements. I watched the 2nd Fokker 100 take off from 17 heading back home to Austria and in the crisp, clear and cloudless sky kept her in view for what seemed like ten minutes after she had left. Very nice. One of the Atlantic Air Training Cessna 172s was up as well at the time taking advantage of the fine evening to get in some practise at the VOR DME approaches.
Eventually the FR907 from STN appeared making her way down the ILS to 17 for another safe arrival at Cork with She Whom Must Be Obeyed on board at the end of another trip over to see the Mammy.
Whatever other moans we may have about the place and, yes, there may be many but on a night such as this you just cant beat Cork Airport.
No where like it.
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Try Kilkenny - Tom
..........Kilkenny Airport/airfield.
Smell of fresh cut grass in the air, with a light dew forming. The air settles around you, cup of warm tea in your hand. You look up to see Slieve Na Mon to the south west or across to the horizion where Mount Leinster straddles the landscape. Draping the soft blue sky, trails of vapour latice work touched by droplets of golden sun light as the sun melts on the horizon. ..........yes breath........deep, it's real.
So Tom ye can keep Cork and yer 3 medals in Tiddlywinks
Smell of fresh cut grass in the air, with a light dew forming. The air settles around you, cup of warm tea in your hand. You look up to see Slieve Na Mon to the south west or across to the horizion where Mount Leinster straddles the landscape. Draping the soft blue sky, trails of vapour latice work touched by droplets of golden sun light as the sun melts on the horizon. ..........yes breath........deep, it's real.
So Tom ye can keep Cork and yer 3 medals in Tiddlywinks
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Did the Kilkenny Air Rally weekend once a loooong time ago not long after Whittle lit his jet engine for the first time! A good memory and the visiting Beech Baron from Iona stands out in my mind's eye. Along with that back in my tenor days most of my friends were from Kilkenny so there will always be a soft spot for Kilkenny with me.
Now, back to the business at hand - what the heck is Cork going to do about Budapest? Not for the first time I have been approached by friends & colleagues asking me about how they can, in particular, get back to Cork from Budapest especially now that the later RE641 from Dublin is to go and that the daily evening EI845 will revert to four weekly again for the summer.
The point being made to me was anytime the folk whom travelled to Budapest on the Malev the flight was either full or close to full. Okay, it is not so hard to full the 106 seats on a 737-600 so load factor and yield need to be taken into account but on anecodate it seems at worst that quite a reasonable market existed for Cork Budapest and it has been left to just flitter away.
Now, back to the business at hand - what the heck is Cork going to do about Budapest? Not for the first time I have been approached by friends & colleagues asking me about how they can, in particular, get back to Cork from Budapest especially now that the later RE641 from Dublin is to go and that the daily evening EI845 will revert to four weekly again for the summer.
The point being made to me was anytime the folk whom travelled to Budapest on the Malev the flight was either full or close to full. Okay, it is not so hard to full the 106 seats on a 737-600 so load factor and yield need to be taken into account but on anecodate it seems at worst that quite a reasonable market existed for Cork Budapest and it has been left to just flitter away.
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Prestwick
"The new Prestwick route does seem to be doing very well"
Well not the days I used it -
PIK/ORK, 18/12/07 - 35PAX & ORK/PIK 19/12/07 - 22PAX
and, how many were like the two of us - £10 each return inc all charges?
Well not the days I used it -
PIK/ORK, 18/12/07 - 35PAX & ORK/PIK 19/12/07 - 22PAX
and, how many were like the two of us - £10 each return inc all charges?
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The new Prestwick route does seem to be doing very well"
Well not the days I used it -
PIK/ORK, 18/12/07 - 35PAX & ORK/PIK 19/12/07 - 22PAX
and, how many were like the two of us - £10 each return inc all charges?
Given that the route started around 13th of the month, as the CAA figures for December showed that 3725 passengers, an average of 103 passengers per flight, used the route, it must have been very busy on some days
Well not the days I used it -
PIK/ORK, 18/12/07 - 35PAX & ORK/PIK 19/12/07 - 22PAX
and, how many were like the two of us - £10 each return inc all charges?
Given that the route started around 13th of the month, as the CAA figures for December showed that 3725 passengers, an average of 103 passengers per flight, used the route, it must have been very busy on some days
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It could be launched by EI for the winter. They're going to have a hole in the winter timetable with Warsaw axed so perhaps they could launch Budapest instead. They wouldn't have space in the summer timetable but I suppose it could be operated by a W pattern by a Dublin aircraft for the summer months?
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Aer Lingus don't seem to have any more A320s being delivered this year after Belfast gets its second, so it's unlikely. I'd have thought Budapest was a bit too long a sector to operate a W.
One last option could be to operate an overnight flight. The Amsterdam flight is in at 21:30h and the next day some flights go out after 07:00h (Heathrow is later again but uses a different aircraft type). Even building in an allowance for delays, you could fit in an overnight to Budapest. The only thing is, I can't remember EI doing that since they were operating Ibiza charters overnight in 2003.
One last option could be to operate an overnight flight. The Amsterdam flight is in at 21:30h and the next day some flights go out after 07:00h (Heathrow is later again but uses a different aircraft type). Even building in an allowance for delays, you could fit in an overnight to Budapest. The only thing is, I can't remember EI doing that since they were operating Ibiza charters overnight in 2003.
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Aer Lingus
Cork to Budapest this summer is not going to happen.
Cork to Budapest next winter would involve a significant reshuffle, but that doesn't discount it by any means.
More than likely, Cork to Jersey will get the axe for the winter, and I'm doing a rain dance in the hope that they'll replace it by Cork to Brussels, but I'm not holding my breath
Cork to Budapest next winter would involve a significant reshuffle, but that doesn't discount it by any means.
More than likely, Cork to Jersey will get the axe for the winter, and I'm doing a rain dance in the hope that they'll replace it by Cork to Brussels, but I'm not holding my breath