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Very upbeat interview on todays' Evening Echo with new Cork Airport Director Neil McCarthy. In it he states that costs of running Cork are higher than many similar airports in the U.K. He hopes the airport will return to growth in 2013 and to profit shortly afterwards. He also says that Cork hopes to secure a transatlantic service by 2015. I'm not sure what's so significant about the year 2015. He's quoted as saying that a charter series might work sand that this could pave the way for a scheduled service.
I wish Neil McCarthy the very best but the strategy of launching a Charter series to the U.S was tried on three occasions in the last decade and it failed each time. The only charters on the Atlantic nowadays are for the U.S. Military so hopefully we won't have to endure another aborted effort.
I wish Neil McCarthy the very best but the strategy of launching a Charter series to the U.S was tried on three occasions in the last decade and it failed each time. The only charters on the Atlantic nowadays are for the U.S. Military so hopefully we won't have to endure another aborted effort.
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It is hard to ever see the DAA conceding a transatlantic service to Cork if it can get away first with keeping such a service at Dublin Airport. No, I think today's reported comments by Cork Airport's new boss are baloney are only handy sound bites for the press and others who dont have a clue how Irish state airports tick. You can see how meaningless the new man's remarks are when the idea of a charter series first to America is suggested which can only be described as stupid in my opinion.
I think Cork had and missed it's chance at an American service.
More in their line to try and get BA back from Heathrow - it would at least be a soundly based idea and would also help to get some British tourists and business fares back into the Cork area which would help to boost the local economy.
I think Cork had and missed it's chance at an American service.
More in their line to try and get BA back from Heathrow - it would at least be a soundly based idea and would also help to get some British tourists and business fares back into the Cork area which would help to boost the local economy.
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Reliable sources have said that some American Airlines have told the CAA that Cork's catchment area is too small to support a transatlantic service. It could be viable if there was greater recognition of the Cork Brand name in the U.S. But the reality is that Killarney and Blarney are better known in the United States than Cork.
Maybe Cork Airport could be marketed as Blarney International in the U.S. After all it's only six miles south of the Blarney stone and the planes even fly over it on finals to 17!
Maybe Cork Airport could be marketed as Blarney International in the U.S. After all it's only six miles south of the Blarney stone and the planes even fly over it on finals to 17!
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Although a North American link would be appreciated by many in Cork business circles, for the airport itself, somewhere like Frankfurt could deliver as many passengers and be more sustainable.
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Okay, let us settle on BA with a Oneworld connection from Heathrow and a Lufthansa Star Alliance connection from Frankfurt. That would be just swell! A daily from Heathrow and three weekly from Frankfurt! 
America is pie in the sky. That has been seen to long ago.
America is pie in the sky. That has been seen to long ago.
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Of course in an ideal situation we'd love to see a Cork - U.S service. But as mentioned above we need more connections. Can't believe we only have Munich at 3 times a week and no other German route. Would love to see even a Ryanair flight to Hahn but I doubt they would with the Kerry flight.
Maybe if EI had an A319 in Cork they'd be more encouraged to expand. Time will tell.
Maybe if EI had an A319 in Cork they'd be more encouraged to expand. Time will tell.
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He also says that Cork hopes to secure a transatlantic service by 2015.
Delta - Dublin, seasonal Shannon (I wonder if DL will still be at SNN in 2015)
United - Dublin, Shannon and Belfast (Could possibly see Belfast dropped)
US Airways - Dublin, left SNN
American - almost to the wall...
Aer Lingus - Not a chance and can only make seasonal SNN work
Also there will be a major improvement in train times between Cork-Dublin from early January which won't help which will make Dublin Airport much close for passengers going to US.
As for growth in 2013 where will that come from, has he airlines lined up to dilever it? I can't see growth in 2013 unless something is to be announced.
He realy needs to change his objectives and come back down to earth IMO.
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The vague promise of a transatlantic service from Cork has been doing the rounds since the early 1990's. it's always at least two years away and needless to say it never materialises.
I know that talks have taken place with a number of airlines but we're never told at what level these talks are taking place. There's a big difference between a friendly chat with an Irish representative and live negotiations with the
real decision makers in Dallas or Atlanta.
Ironically Cork's connectivity to Heathrow and Schiphol is probably militating against a direct link. Furthermore while many Cork people lament the lack of a direct service, how many would support it if there's a cheaper fare or a more convenient time available from Shannon and Dublin?
I know that talks have taken place with a number of airlines but we're never told at what level these talks are taking place. There's a big difference between a friendly chat with an Irish representative and live negotiations with the
real decision makers in Dallas or Atlanta.
Ironically Cork's connectivity to Heathrow and Schiphol is probably militating against a direct link. Furthermore while many Cork people lament the lack of a direct service, how many would support it if there's a cheaper fare or a more convenient time available from Shannon and Dublin?
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Originally Posted by Jamie2k9
Also there will be a major improvement in train times between Cork-Dublin from early January which won't help which will make Dublin Airport much close for passengers going to US.
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"Hopefully Aerlingus will launch Frankfurt at some stage. Not sure why the pulled back on it in 2009 and last year. Maybe it was slot related."
Apparently, a lobby group representing people who work in brussels but live in the ORK catchment area sent a letter to lingus stating that "it would probably be more beneficial if they started a service to brussels instead"( I have not seen the letter). They must have produced some serious numbers to lingus because they were all set to announce FRA and suddenly a week later, annouced BRU instead.
Apparently, a lobby group representing people who work in brussels but live in the ORK catchment area sent a letter to lingus stating that "it would probably be more beneficial if they started a service to brussels instead"( I have not seen the letter). They must have produced some serious numbers to lingus because they were all set to announce FRA and suddenly a week later, annouced BRU instead.
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Why's that?
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Cork needs a lot kore then 3 or 4 new EU routes. Increased frequency I mean Munich should be at least 4 times a week . Newcastle should be min 3 times a week all year around etc new UK routes or reinstated such as Southampton etc its always been said that Belfast City has to be brought back even Aer Arann said it was profitable.