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Lufthansa Announces Emb190 On FRA-LCY
BA was the first carrier to operate the Embraer 190 aircraft at London City Airport from March 15th. And now LH is set to become the second airline. It has announced it will operate the E190 on one of its Frankfurt-Loncon City services starting with the summer timetable change at the end of March. Details below:
Lufthansa to operate Embraer flights into LCY - Business Traveller
BA was the first carrier to operate the Embraer 190 aircraft at London City Airport from March 15th. And now LH is set to become the second airline. It has announced it will operate the E190 on one of its Frankfurt-Loncon City services starting with the summer timetable change at the end of March. Details below:
Lufthansa to operate Embraer flights into LCY - Business Traveller
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Is it the case that the ERJ-190 is restricted to stands 21-24 only and possibly remote on 12-14? Given that they're for the BA A318s for a large part of the day and both BA and Lufthansa will be using them, is that not causing some concern?
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emb 190 stands
E-190 fits on all the stands but its a tight fit!. It was one of the things the Embraer demonstrator was doing when it was in last to show it fits. There is talk of getting rid of the small stand 11 that only fits small turbo props and making two large stands that will fit the airbus and the Emb-190 so 9, 10, 11 would become a large 9 and 10.
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Skipness, LH will (for now) only use their E190 on the late FRA so both A318's will hopefully be on their way to JFK. Early morning could be a problem with lack of stands. Late afternoon we would have one presumably have an E190 doing the EDI 8717 at 1700z, one to GLA as the 8728 at 1800z and maybe an AMS.
I wonder if the airport will actually approve the merger of two stands when they are already limited during peak hours just to accomodate 5 aircraft really. (all BA E190's as the A318's won't be there late afternoon, same with the LH E190, thus only creating a problem during the morning with then only 5 aircraft to popentially deal with)
This will all go out of the window with one snowflake off course.
Any word on the airport upgrade/extension of stands and parallel taxiway?
I wonder if the airport will actually approve the merger of two stands when they are already limited during peak hours just to accomodate 5 aircraft really. (all BA E190's as the A318's won't be there late afternoon, same with the LH E190, thus only creating a problem during the morning with then only 5 aircraft to popentially deal with)
This will all go out of the window with one snowflake off course.
Any word on the airport upgrade/extension of stands and parallel taxiway?
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LH reductions as LCY
Business Traveller reported that LH will totally cut DUS and also reduce MUC to 2 daily from 4! With LX reducing GVA due to LHR growth, the LH group have dropped a lot of capacity at LCY!! Perhaps LCY prices are putting them off?
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LCY is no longer first-come-first-served as it is level 3 slot controlled, so you have a more or less fixed place in the arrival order. The early streaming by speed is actually used to prevent prolonged holding vectors at low altitude by Thames Radar. Arrivals into Heathrow are streamed in a similar manner. There is no use in bitching about lower speeds at an earlier stage as the alternative is burning sh*tloads of fuel on the sightseeing trip over southeast England at 3-4000 feet...
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Well, if the weather was fine and there were no emissions to care about, who would complain about a little sightseeing ;-) Always enjoyed the vectors during the short time we operated to LCY.
As far as I recall we had a no-go for LCY if the runway was worse than wet.
As far as I recall we had a no-go for LCY if the runway was worse than wet.
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BA inbound New York flight appears to have gone to Gatwick again this morning due to the fog. I am just wondering what provision is made for the pax in this case. Are they then coached to LCY, or is some further provision made, eg they can be taken directly to Canary Wharf if they wish ?
Will put a bit of a downer on the loads if the regular pax start to find that Heathrow flights on such days are meanwhile getting in there OK.
Will put a bit of a downer on the loads if the regular pax start to find that Heathrow flights on such days are meanwhile getting in there OK.
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AERBT reports what has been rumoured here before - that Cimber is to take over the CPH-LCY route, replacing the airline's LGW service.
Wonder if someone will be found to take over the DUS route.
Wonder if someone will be found to take over the DUS route.
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What's up with security at Lcy tonight then?? . 2 hour queues (!)to get through to the central search area from the terminal - absolute chaos , more delays and grumpy pax than you could shake a stick at!
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The security queues in the evening have been getting worse and worse since perhaps the middle of November. It took me 30 minutes from joining the queue to clearing security last week. When I arrived back the following day, the queue was just as long.
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Does that not come from trying to instal the security in an area that never was large enough. With the increased rsecurity requirements investment in more equipment and staff is needed. It is a shambles!
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Swift security clearance was one of LCY's unique selling points. I read somewhere that they were creating a new and improved search area. Perhaps we are in the transition phase between old and new, or have pax volumes suddenly recovered to pre recession levels?
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This security delay is surprising. I have known LCY since the two-channel security days (even then the one on the left was generally closed), then three, now four, and they are about to build for more by, apparently, rafting over the central atrium area.
Now the actual time being checked, and the process, from when you put your items on the belt to when you retrieve them, has not changed. So the throughput per hour of each channel must be the same. And the passenger volumes have increased by no more than the increase in the number of security channels provided. So where is the holdup ?
I do get the feeling that a greater number of the channels are now unstaffed, in which case building more is pointless. Are GIP just economising on staff to drive their investment return at the airport up, in the same way that the car parking charges, which used to be affordable, have now skyrocketed ?
Now the actual time being checked, and the process, from when you put your items on the belt to when you retrieve them, has not changed. So the throughput per hour of each channel must be the same. And the passenger volumes have increased by no more than the increase in the number of security channels provided. So where is the holdup ?
I do get the feeling that a greater number of the channels are now unstaffed, in which case building more is pointless. Are GIP just economising on staff to drive their investment return at the airport up, in the same way that the car parking charges, which used to be affordable, have now skyrocketed ?