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Anyone in the know what's happening to the DUS route? Apparently no longer bookable for next summer schedule, and today the airline operating the route on behalf of Lufthansa has announced the closure of its DUS base. So it wil be either larger Lufthansa jets or - more likely - another route axed.
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Some may have seen my comment on the CityJet page about being bumped from the Edinburgh flight due to overbooking. Recession, what recession ? Well, I suppose it had to happen to me one day ...... in the end the day return trip was no longer worthwhile, waiting for the next flight, so I cancelled the whole thing and will need to try again next week.
One issue, coming back to the car park payment machines, the car park is divided into two, the short term area nearest the terminal has rates for an hour or two, then becomes ruinous, while the one further away, where I am parked of course, is for longer term, but doesn't have anything less than a rate of £14 for 12 hours, even though I have only been there an hour.
Here comes the upside. Go to the info desk and describe this, show my Denied Boarding Compensation receipt etc, and they give me a car park exit ticket for free, along with an apology for the situation I was in even though it was nothing to do with the airport operator. Thank you. Just shows that LCY is still run like a proper customer-facing business. You just try that at Heathrow !
One issue, coming back to the car park payment machines, the car park is divided into two, the short term area nearest the terminal has rates for an hour or two, then becomes ruinous, while the one further away, where I am parked of course, is for longer term, but doesn't have anything less than a rate of £14 for 12 hours, even though I have only been there an hour.
Here comes the upside. Go to the info desk and describe this, show my Denied Boarding Compensation receipt etc, and they give me a car park exit ticket for free, along with an apology for the situation I was in even though it was nothing to do with the airport operator. Thank you. Just shows that LCY is still run like a proper customer-facing business. You just try that at Heathrow !
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BA from LCY adds Palma, Mallorca and Ibiza for summer 2010 season. Starting in May a three weekly flight leaving on FRI/SUN/MON with E190. All inclusive one way fares are available from £69, and will be available to book on ba.com later this morning. 
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CPH apparently to be axed with effect summer schedule.
The loss of "proper" business destinations with year-round, daily flights is beginning to worry me. CPH and SXB confirmed to go, DUS and BLL no longer bookable for next summer.
The loss of "proper" business destinations with year-round, daily flights is beginning to worry me. CPH and SXB confirmed to go, DUS and BLL no longer bookable for next summer.
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Here you go:
SAS leaves London City AIRLINE ROUTE UPDATES
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runway was shut just long enough so people had to divert, Flow rate then dropped to two arrivals an hour, lots of de-icing needed, aircraft in wrong place, SNAFU.
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As one who sat right through it all, it did seem a bit excessive. We were all in the 1610 departure to Dundee, conditions ok when we crossed the ramp to board, then it snowed, de-icing was needed, then the runway was closed "for one hour to sweep". Fair enough, back into the terminal, sat there for 2.5 hours, then it was cancelled, along with everything else. So gave up and went home (it was just an overnight trip).
Check-in area by 1830 was of course a heaving mass of disorganisation. Escalator up to departures shut down and roped off. We were sat in the quite new extension to the bar/cafe over the entrance doors, which gives a grandstand view of it all (and which I can recommend as an oasis of calm during any future delays).
But why was the airport closed for the rest of the day ? The snow pretty much was over after an hour. Does LCY have any special conditions about use of contaminated runways not in force elsewhere ? Because if you can't use an airport while it is snowing, half the ski flights would be lost (which we know does not happen), and all those flights I have made around Canada and Russia in the winter (including on BA) arriving/departing ON TIME on adequately ploughed runways where it was still snowing, and had been all day, must be figments of my imagination.
For those who followed my sad saga from a couple of weeks ago when overbooked by CityJet, yes, this was the rearranged trip to the same potential client in Scotland. This time we decided to go the evening before the meeting, to give a buffer. What a disaster !
Check-in area by 1830 was of course a heaving mass of disorganisation. Escalator up to departures shut down and roped off. We were sat in the quite new extension to the bar/cafe over the entrance doors, which gives a grandstand view of it all (and which I can recommend as an oasis of calm during any future delays).
But why was the airport closed for the rest of the day ? The snow pretty much was over after an hour. Does LCY have any special conditions about use of contaminated runways not in force elsewhere ? Because if you can't use an airport while it is snowing, half the ski flights would be lost (which we know does not happen), and all those flights I have made around Canada and Russia in the winter (including on BA) arriving/departing ON TIME on adequately ploughed runways where it was still snowing, and had been all day, must be figments of my imagination.
For those who followed my sad saga from a couple of weeks ago when overbooked by CityJet, yes, this was the rearranged trip to the same potential client in Scotland. This time we decided to go the evening before the meeting, to give a buffer. What a disaster !
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Does LCY have any special conditions about use of contaminated runways not in force elsewhere ?
Imagine the same situation with an icy runway. In the dock you go.
The runway has water on 3 sides and a bridge at the other end. I agree about the principle of northern europe and elsewhere just getting on with it, but LCY has too many unique factors. Oh yeah, and its in the UK and we are rubbish at keeping airports open in the snow!!!!
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LCY is a short runway with steep approach in central London. Do you remember the BA 146 (or RJ, I can't remember) which burst main gear tyres on landing? That was in the dry and due to the breaking required, not sure of specifics, but this was more than normal I assume, tyres burst.
Imagine the same situation with an icy runway.
Imagine the same situation with an icy runway.
I couldn't quite explain the jet departure as I had just left the terminal where everything had long been shown as cancelled. Biz Jet ? Something positioning out empty ? Late go-around ?
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Originally Posted by groundagent
LCY is a short runway with steep approach in central London. Do you remember the BA 146 (or RJ, I can't remember) which burst main gear tyres on landing? That was in the dry and due to the breaking required, not sure of specifics, but this was more than normal I assume, tyres burst.
Imagine the same situation with an icy runway.
LCY is a short runway with steep approach in central London. Do you remember the BA 146 (or RJ, I can't remember) which burst main gear tyres on landing? That was in the dry and due to the breaking required, not sure of specifics, but this was more than normal I assume, tyres burst.
Imagine the same situation with an icy runway.
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From the UK AIP LCY entry, a paragraph states the following:
"Operations by all aircraft shall be permitted only when the runway is dry, or if wet devoid of other than small areas of water not exceeding 3 mm
in depth. Operations will be prohibited when the runway is contaminated by ice or slush to a depth exceeding 3 mm, or dry snow to a depth of
10 mm, or the reported braking action is reported as worse than 'medium' provided that this condition shall not apply if there is an appropriate
entry covering operation from contaminated runways contained in the relevant flight manual."
"Operations by all aircraft shall be permitted only when the runway is dry, or if wet devoid of other than small areas of water not exceeding 3 mm
in depth. Operations will be prohibited when the runway is contaminated by ice or slush to a depth exceeding 3 mm, or dry snow to a depth of
10 mm, or the reported braking action is reported as worse than 'medium' provided that this condition shall not apply if there is an appropriate
entry covering operation from contaminated runways contained in the relevant flight manual."
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Thanks Red Four I should have looked in the AIPWhatever type does NOT have a section on contamninated runways in its Flight Manual ?
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Do you remember the BA 146 (or RJ, I can't remember) which burst main gear tyres on landing? That was in the dry and due to the breaking required, not sure of specifics, but this was more than normal I assume, tyres burst.
A few errors caused the incident. You can read the details of the incident in the AAIB website.
RJ.